Cooper- yes, that’s quite a story. The worst for me was the part about your daughter saying that everyone is a thetan, and not related, so the whole idea of Mother, Father and family in general, is a hoax. I think the “hoax” was pulled on her but she hasn’t figured it out yet.

The cult promotes this idea to keep people enslaved and to alter their sense of proper boundaries.

I hope your daughter gets out one day on her own determinism. Something she likely hasn’t had much experience with since she joined the SO, probably at a fairly young age I would guess.

I truly felt ill when I read that and then really sad. I know that it’s a belief system but one that takes people for granted and to me, is very ambivalent about life and death in general. No one really matters it seems.

I hope things will change soon and I wish you the best Cooper.

+1 Notice the part about how people need the right to a living wage. Infuriating is right.

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Yes, Joe, it could have been self-abnegation. Or also could have been so PTS for so long to DM that they become robots to the SP. There’s a reference called Robotism that covers it — they just unwittingly obey the commands of the SP like a robot.

I think your translation is spot-on!

Coop, I hate that Ser Fac lie that we are all thetans so mom and dad and family mean nothing. This is like a government state growing bodies in pawn and building armies and slaves to be used “for the greatest good” like a Sci Fi movie, only probably not too far from the truth on our whole track, and now in present time with the church.

I was also told to disconnect from family by Flag. I have gotten in comm and have mended the ARCX’s and now enjoy my siblings very much. The MAA’s at Flag have dropped out the first part of LRH’s reference which is, “handle or disconnect.” The “handle” part is not-ised and the “solution” is always to disconnect. Maybe it is the divide and conquer mind set that they can control you better if they isolate you from every outside person who might get you to look and listen and to act against the suppression.

As long as people play the game and pay …… Rod should have just fucking LEFT …. but he didn’t, did he? And yet he calls himself an “OT” …… well maybe he WANTED to pay. You know … self abnegation and all.

Thanks for the kind thoughts all. Truth is the fat lady has not yet had her day. And so we all work to achieve our final win ……….and it will be ours.

So long as we have people who are willing and able to shine the light of truth on the situation we will have our day. Thanks to all of you doing the same and those providing some guiding strokes like the Mikes and Martys maybe one day soon the insanity known as $cientology will be part of our past!

Oh–but the “helping old people…” LOL…. I’m in!! Where do I sign!