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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/stable-data-keep-flowing-to-the-org/#comment-341979</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aquamarine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2020 23:42:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/stable-data-keep-flowing-to-the-org/#comment-341849&quot;&gt;Dotey OT&lt;/a&gt;.

Broken eggs, indeed.  This girl was far from being the only valuable being the church lost due to its utter insanity, and yes, the younger these Sea Ogres were the more they seemed mired in magical thinking.  The older ones now -  they were the more realistic,  more understanding.  One could talk to them.  The young ones were impossible; arrogant and opinionated with NO life experiences; they&#039;d never had a job, never had to pay any bills,  had lived in the cult&#039;s  bubble their entire lives- and yet the Cl V org staff, which had to juggle ALL of these responsibilities PLUS work full time at the org, were THEIR Juniors!  Their &quot;decision&quot; to join Sea Org &quot;qualified&quot; them to  tell the rest of us what to do, meanwhile the Cl V org staff juggling all these responsibilities got hell from these children.  Just insane!  And the principle reason I would never sign a staff contract.]]></description>
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<p>Broken eggs, indeed.  This girl was far from being the only valuable being the church lost due to its utter insanity, and yes, the younger these Sea Ogres were the more they seemed mired in magical thinking.  The older ones now &#8211;  they were the more realistic,  more understanding.  One could talk to them.  The young ones were impossible; arrogant and opinionated with NO life experiences; they&#8217;d never had a job, never had to pay any bills,  had lived in the cult&#8217;s  bubble their entire lives- and yet the Cl V org staff, which had to juggle ALL of these responsibilities PLUS work full time at the org, were THEIR Juniors!  Their &#8220;decision&#8221; to join Sea Org &#8220;qualified&#8221; them to  tell the rest of us what to do, meanwhile the Cl V org staff juggling all these responsibilities got hell from these children.  Just insane!  And the principle reason I would never sign a staff contract.</p>
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		By: LoosingMyReligion		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/stable-data-keep-flowing-to-the-org/#comment-341967</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LoosingMyReligion]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2020 21:48:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/stable-data-keep-flowing-to-the-org/#comment-341792&quot;&gt;WhatWhenAllWho&lt;/a&gt;.

Dear WWAW. It is me who thank you. 
Yes, that reference on the AP I saw it too but I don&#039;t remember exactly. I think it related to a period between the 60s and the early 70s. Before it was more normal to sell a service and then deliver it immediately after. No backlogs. 
Then the boost and attention on the GI increased and services that could not deliver immediately began to be regged. IE. Maybe one was receiving auditing and they were regging advance payments for the academy. 
The only instance I know when an org doesn&#039;t  spend the money is if the public is considered a potential illegal PC or has serious trouble that you suspect could be refunded to, so it goes to a special account. 

Thanks again. I am fine (and so I hope for you) and I have a super family. I left 15 years ago and have never regretted it.]]></description>
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<p>Dear WWAW. It is me who thank you.<br />
Yes, that reference on the AP I saw it too but I don&#8217;t remember exactly. I think it related to a period between the 60s and the early 70s. Before it was more normal to sell a service and then deliver it immediately after. No backlogs.<br />
Then the boost and attention on the GI increased and services that could not deliver immediately began to be regged. IE. Maybe one was receiving auditing and they were regging advance payments for the academy.<br />
The only instance I know when an org doesn&#8217;t  spend the money is if the public is considered a potential illegal PC or has serious trouble that you suspect could be refunded to, so it goes to a special account. </p>
<p>Thanks again. I am fine (and so I hope for you) and I have a super family. I left 15 years ago and have never regretted it.</p>
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		By: Keep Scientology Waffling		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Keep Scientology Waffling]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2020 16:49:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Randomity&quot;?  Send that woman back to the dictionary to clay-model &quot;randomness&quot;!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Randomity&#8221;?  Send that woman back to the dictionary to clay-model &#8220;randomness&#8221;!</p>
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		By: Wynski		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wynski]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2020 14:41:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/stable-data-keep-flowing-to-the-org/#comment-341853&quot;&gt;Rip Van Winkle&lt;/a&gt;.

Right RVW, &quot;Special income&quot; was for that purpose as it might have to be Repaid.  Not to be confused with Refunded.]]></description>
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<p>Right RVW, &#8220;Special income&#8221; was for that purpose as it might have to be Repaid.  Not to be confused with Refunded.</p>
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		By: Wynski		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wynski]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2020 12:37:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/stable-data-keep-flowing-to-the-org/#comment-341780&quot;&gt;Imaberrated&lt;/a&gt;.

Imaberrated, the ED&#039;s order to you is based on a Hubtard policy saying the same thing.  Hubtard was a criminal so some of his policy advised criminal actions.]]></description>
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<p>Imaberrated, the ED&#8217;s order to you is based on a Hubtard policy saying the same thing.  Hubtard was a criminal so some of his policy advised criminal actions.</p>
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		By: Rip Van Winkle		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rip Van Winkle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2020 12:32:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/stable-data-keep-flowing-to-the-org/#comment-341779&quot;&gt;Wynski&lt;/a&gt;.

I recall a policy of holding advance money and not spending it, but I believe it had to do with being accepted as a PC..? It was for dicey public, like psych cases ...

 &quot;Special income&quot;..? Was that what it was called?  It was set aside until the person was accepted, returned to them if they were denied.]]></description>
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<p>I recall a policy of holding advance money and not spending it, but I believe it had to do with being accepted as a PC..? It was for dicey public, like psych cases &#8230;</p>
<p> &#8220;Special income&#8221;..? Was that what it was called?  It was set aside until the person was accepted, returned to them if they were denied.</p>
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		By: Dotey OT		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dotey OT]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2020 11:41:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/stable-data-keep-flowing-to-the-org/#comment-341811&quot;&gt;Aquamarine&lt;/a&gt;.

Lots of eggs broken trying to make the omelet that never gets made. All in the name of &quot;clearing&quot; the planet.  A planet that will never be cleared, because there is no such thing as a &quot;clear&quot;.

I never heard much in the way of good advice from a sea org member.  In fact, the younger they were, the worse it was.  As far as living on meager pay, the whole system was a farce.  It still is, as I know people that are current staff.  Before covid, they weren&#039;t making much, now I&#039;m sure it&#039;s much worse.  Exploiting the bamboozled few that could or would join staff.  The only way it works is if someone else supports you.]]></description>
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<p>Lots of eggs broken trying to make the omelet that never gets made. All in the name of &#8220;clearing&#8221; the planet.  A planet that will never be cleared, because there is no such thing as a &#8220;clear&#8221;.</p>
<p>I never heard much in the way of good advice from a sea org member.  In fact, the younger they were, the worse it was.  As far as living on meager pay, the whole system was a farce.  It still is, as I know people that are current staff.  Before covid, they weren&#8217;t making much, now I&#8217;m sure it&#8217;s much worse.  Exploiting the bamboozled few that could or would join staff.  The only way it works is if someone else supports you.</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aquamarine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2020 05:12:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/stable-data-keep-flowing-to-the-org/#comment-341725&quot;&gt;Aquamarine&lt;/a&gt;.

Oh, and PS: the moonlighting job this girl managed to get for herself so that she could survive and still produce on staff and fulfill her staff contract was a job with a Scientology company, the head of which was in very good standing with the org and Scientology in general. She was to be his admin asst in some capacity.  A very understanding boss because HE was a long term Scientologist.  The perfect set up for all concerned, really!   But, never mind, this was just other-fish-fryin&#039; TERRIBLE according to those Missionaires!  Wrong, wrong wrong; she should NOT have to moonlight; she should have been making ALL her money via her org staff job!  Just unreal!  Of course, no one on staff was making any money on staff but never mind!
After weeks of getting raked over the ethics coals she finally blew. It was a big loss for HER, btw.  She had had a real purpose to be on staff. And she was bright and smart and full of energy.  But she blew and then Oh, this was even MORE terrible. Now she was an SP! She never went back to Scientology after that. Years later they tried, several times, to get her back, first to be on staff again, and then, just to be a public.  She wouldn&#039;t though.  They couldn&#039;t convince her to return in any capacity.  She&#039;d been quite young and vulnerable but she was a bright kid and a fast learner and this experience wised her up but good.  She told me, back then, &quot;Aqua, they&#039;re CRAZY!  I&#039;ll never go back.&quot;  I was shocked hearing her say that because I was still in.  Boy was she right!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/stable-data-keep-flowing-to-the-org/#comment-341725">Aquamarine</a>.</p>
<p>Oh, and PS: the moonlighting job this girl managed to get for herself so that she could survive and still produce on staff and fulfill her staff contract was a job with a Scientology company, the head of which was in very good standing with the org and Scientology in general. She was to be his admin asst in some capacity.  A very understanding boss because HE was a long term Scientologist.  The perfect set up for all concerned, really!   But, never mind, this was just other-fish-fryin&#8217; TERRIBLE according to those Missionaires!  Wrong, wrong wrong; she should NOT have to moonlight; she should have been making ALL her money via her org staff job!  Just unreal!  Of course, no one on staff was making any money on staff but never mind!<br />
After weeks of getting raked over the ethics coals she finally blew. It was a big loss for HER, btw.  She had had a real purpose to be on staff. And she was bright and smart and full of energy.  But she blew and then Oh, this was even MORE terrible. Now she was an SP! She never went back to Scientology after that. Years later they tried, several times, to get her back, first to be on staff again, and then, just to be a public.  She wouldn&#8217;t though.  They couldn&#8217;t convince her to return in any capacity.  She&#8217;d been quite young and vulnerable but she was a bright kid and a fast learner and this experience wised her up but good.  She told me, back then, &#8220;Aqua, they&#8217;re CRAZY!  I&#8217;ll never go back.&#8221;  I was shocked hearing her say that because I was still in.  Boy was she right!</p>
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		By: Thomas Weeks		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Thomas Weeks]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2020 04:42:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Scientology staff should be assigned the condition of  Treason for allowing Covid-19 to crash the stats. They need their ethics slammed in!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scientology staff should be assigned the condition of  Treason for allowing Covid-19 to crash the stats. They need their ethics slammed in!</p>
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		By: WhatWhenAllWho		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[WhatWhenAllWho]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2020 02:26:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/stable-data-keep-flowing-to-the-org/#comment-341779&quot;&gt;Wynski&lt;/a&gt;.

It very well could have been a non-HCO PL issue. You are right.]]></description>
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<p>It very well could have been a non-HCO PL issue. You are right.</p>
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