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		By: Jens TINGLEFF		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/sunlandtujunga-mission-stats/#comment-41546</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jens TINGLEFF]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2014 08:50:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/sunlandtujunga-mission-stats/#comment-41200&quot;&gt;Idle Morgue&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;Lurkers – please don’t stop looking &quot;

But, but, but! They paid good money to have someone tell them not to look!

Seriously, that was always one of my better counter arguments at a demo where there would be always be someone who had to share their opinion that I was obviously no differently from the victims of the criminal organisation known as the &quot;church&quot; of $cientology (it was just that I disagreed with them): &quot;They have websites - I can look at those websites, and I do. I have a website - they&#039;re not allowed to look at my website, they have to agree to have a filter installed on their computer to blank out my entire ISP, in fact.&quot;

Ahh, the good old days...

(Carry on, you&#039;re doing an excellent job :) )]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/sunlandtujunga-mission-stats/#comment-41200">Idle Morgue</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;Lurkers – please don’t stop looking &#8221;</p>
<p>But, but, but! They paid good money to have someone tell them not to look!</p>
<p>Seriously, that was always one of my better counter arguments at a demo where there would be always be someone who had to share their opinion that I was obviously no differently from the victims of the criminal organisation known as the &#8220;church&#8221; of $cientology (it was just that I disagreed with them): &#8220;They have websites &#8211; I can look at those websites, and I do. I have a website &#8211; they&#8217;re not allowed to look at my website, they have to agree to have a filter installed on their computer to blank out my entire ISP, in fact.&#8221;</p>
<p>Ahh, the good old days&#8230;</p>
<p>(Carry on, you&#8217;re doing an excellent job 🙂 )</p>
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		By: FOTF2012		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/sunlandtujunga-mission-stats/#comment-41342</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2014 03:33:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/sunlandtujunga-mission-stats/#comment-41197&quot;&gt;Mike Rinder&lt;/a&gt;.

Nice slide shows and pics. Here is one of the Potemkin mission:

http://possiblyhelpfuladvice.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/potemkin-s.jpg]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/sunlandtujunga-mission-stats/#comment-41197">Mike Rinder</a>.</p>
<p>Nice slide shows and pics. Here is one of the Potemkin mission:</p>
<p><a href="http://possiblyhelpfuladvice.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/potemkin-s.jpg" rel="nofollow ugc">http://possiblyhelpfuladvice.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/potemkin-s.jpg</a></p>
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		By: Disaffected		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/sunlandtujunga-mission-stats/#comment-41307</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Disaffected]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2014 01:22:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/sunlandtujunga-mission-stats/#comment-41275&quot;&gt;euinsumi&lt;/a&gt;.

Yeah you are right about that! I do have to say that Davey has a few ways to escape but non are without damage. And if he will continue to delay and appeal (which they will most certainly do, as that&#039;s scripture) it will take many years to reach a final ruling. But the immediate good news is that Davey has another dossier to micromanage --- how large is this guys attention span? I mean, seriously, the trouble he is in would send many people in a psychotic break pronto. I wonder if he won&#039;t just die at some point of a heart attack or a stroke or something acute related to stress.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/sunlandtujunga-mission-stats/#comment-41275">euinsumi</a>.</p>
<p>Yeah you are right about that! I do have to say that Davey has a few ways to escape but non are without damage. And if he will continue to delay and appeal (which they will most certainly do, as that&#8217;s scripture) it will take many years to reach a final ruling. But the immediate good news is that Davey has another dossier to micromanage &#8212; how large is this guys attention span? I mean, seriously, the trouble he is in would send many people in a psychotic break pronto. I wonder if he won&#8217;t just die at some point of a heart attack or a stroke or something acute related to stress.</p>
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		By: remoteviewed		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/sunlandtujunga-mission-stats/#comment-41305</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2014 01:18:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/sunlandtujunga-mission-stats/#comment-41284&quot;&gt;plainoldthetan&lt;/a&gt;.

That might have been the stake in the AA&#039;s heart but the list you had was mostly &quot;inactive&quot; due to the changes I covered POT.

Maybe like many of the members of the Church these days they remained on the rolls in a condition of &quot;hope&quot; then lost it when they saw the idiocy of the &quot;Golden Shower of Tech&quot;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/sunlandtujunga-mission-stats/#comment-41284">plainoldthetan</a>.</p>
<p>That might have been the stake in the AA&#8217;s heart but the list you had was mostly &#8220;inactive&#8221; due to the changes I covered POT.</p>
<p>Maybe like many of the members of the Church these days they remained on the rolls in a condition of &#8220;hope&#8221; then lost it when they saw the idiocy of the &#8220;Golden Shower of Tech&#8221;.</p>
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		By: remoteviewed		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/sunlandtujunga-mission-stats/#comment-41302</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2014 01:13:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/sunlandtujunga-mission-stats/#comment-41286&quot;&gt;Old School&lt;/a&gt;.

Oh right.

Like the internet abounds with truthful and factual information.

The decline OS started in the late &#039;80s when public access to the &#039;net didn&#039;t exist.

I&#039;ve got the stats to prove it:

http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/stats/source/analysissummary.html

As you can see those are Flag&#039;s stats which is pretty much a bellwether for Scientology Internationally.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/sunlandtujunga-mission-stats/#comment-41286">Old School</a>.</p>
<p>Oh right.</p>
<p>Like the internet abounds with truthful and factual information.</p>
<p>The decline OS started in the late &#8217;80s when public access to the &#8216;net didn&#8217;t exist.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve got the stats to prove it:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/stats/source/analysissummary.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/stats/source/analysissummary.html</a></p>
<p>As you can see those are Flag&#8217;s stats which is pretty much a bellwether for Scientology Internationally.</p>
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		By: Disaffected		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/sunlandtujunga-mission-stats/#comment-41291</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Disaffected]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2014 00:20:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/sunlandtujunga-mission-stats/#comment-41200&quot;&gt;Idle Morgue&lt;/a&gt;.

I just love it when commenters address lurkers here DIRECTLY. It impinges, I know by own experience and through testimonies of those on the fencers that come here daily. I cant stress this enough: main audience here are LUKERS. All lurkers, listen to Idle Morgue --- find all the information YOU NEED and get out of Doubt NOW. Don&#039;t delay, and wait how things will unfold. There is NOTHING wrong with looking at data and evaluating for yourself what is true. Please, do it!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/sunlandtujunga-mission-stats/#comment-41200">Idle Morgue</a>.</p>
<p>I just love it when commenters address lurkers here DIRECTLY. It impinges, I know by own experience and through testimonies of those on the fencers that come here daily. I cant stress this enough: main audience here are LUKERS. All lurkers, listen to Idle Morgue &#8212; find all the information YOU NEED and get out of Doubt NOW. Don&#8217;t delay, and wait how things will unfold. There is NOTHING wrong with looking at data and evaluating for yourself what is true. Please, do it!</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/sunlandtujunga-mission-stats/#comment-41290</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aquamarine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2014 23:47:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/sunlandtujunga-mission-stats/#comment-41282&quot;&gt;Gary&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you, Mike &#038; Moles, for these Not-Ready-For-Prime-Time Stats! 

&quot;Mike&#039;s Moles -  Burrowing In An Org Near You.&quot;  

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/sunlandtujunga-mission-stats/#comment-41282">Gary</a>.</p>
<p>Thank you, Mike &amp; Moles, for these Not-Ready-For-Prime-Time Stats! </p>
<p>&#8220;Mike&#8217;s Moles &#8211;  Burrowing In An Org Near You.&#8221;  </p>
<p>🙂</p>
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		By: Old School		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/sunlandtujunga-mission-stats/#comment-41286</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2014 22:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/sunlandtujunga-mission-stats/#comment-41277&quot;&gt;remoteviewed&lt;/a&gt;.

Has nothing to do with the S.O. now remoteviewed.  IF that was the &quot;Why&quot;, then Indie field practices would be BOOMING.  With 100 staff member &quot;Missions&quot;, etc., etc..  

The current &quot;Why&quot; is the the &quot;Internet&quot; is giving correct info to people about LRH&#039;s scam BEFORE they can be suckered in.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/sunlandtujunga-mission-stats/#comment-41277">remoteviewed</a>.</p>
<p>Has nothing to do with the S.O. now remoteviewed.  IF that was the &#8220;Why&#8221;, then Indie field practices would be BOOMING.  With 100 staff member &#8220;Missions&#8221;, etc., etc..  </p>
<p>The current &#8220;Why&#8221; is the the &#8220;Internet&#8221; is giving correct info to people about LRH&#8217;s scam BEFORE they can be suckered in.</p>
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		By: The Dark Avenger		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/sunlandtujunga-mission-stats/#comment-41285</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Dark Avenger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2014 22:15:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/sunlandtujunga-mission-stats/#comment-41197&quot;&gt;Mike Rinder&lt;/a&gt;.

The San Jose Mission is the one on 1083 Winchester Blvd, but there&#039;s also one called San Jose Central Mission on the Alameda, and the Silicon Valley Mission, which is on Pedro St, which, as John P Capitalist deftly pointed out, is said to be in the Willow Glen area of San Jose when it isn&#039;t:

&lt;blockquote&gt;My favorite part of this post: how the Scientology ad claims that they’re in Willow Glen off Lincoln Ave. It’s true that the address on Pedro St. is off Lincoln Avenue. There’s one small problem: it’s north of Los Gatos Creek by one block. And the creek is the border of Willow Glen. Willow Glen is a neighborhood in San Jose marked by super-cool retail and by architecturally distinguished Craftsman bungalows from the 1920s and 1930s. It’s like the fashionable parts of Pasadena. The surrounding area, as little as a block away from what is officially designated as Willow Glen, the 95125 zip code, might as well be South Central LA.

So if someone from San Jose is interested enough to come to the location given, they will quickly realize that they have been _had_ and the cult is lying to them. And they will jump back into their car and peel out of the parking lot and head two blocks into the heart of the real Willow Glen to sit at one of the convenient Starbucks locations on Lincoln Avenue and contemplate the tawdry fate that they narrowly escaped from. It’s the Bay Area. Joining a cult isn’t so bad. But joining a cult that lies by claiming a Willow Glen location when they’re on the wrong side of the creek… that will simply never do.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

http://otviiiisgrrr8.com/2013/10/06/craigslist-vs-the-church-of-scientology/comment-page-1/#comment-3925

3 Missions that are from 10 to 20 minutes driving distance from each other in San Jose, I can understand your perplexity at this state of affairs.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/sunlandtujunga-mission-stats/#comment-41197">Mike Rinder</a>.</p>
<p>The San Jose Mission is the one on 1083 Winchester Blvd, but there&#8217;s also one called San Jose Central Mission on the Alameda, and the Silicon Valley Mission, which is on Pedro St, which, as John P Capitalist deftly pointed out, is said to be in the Willow Glen area of San Jose when it isn&#8217;t:</p>
<blockquote><p>My favorite part of this post: how the Scientology ad claims that they’re in Willow Glen off Lincoln Ave. It’s true that the address on Pedro St. is off Lincoln Avenue. There’s one small problem: it’s north of Los Gatos Creek by one block. And the creek is the border of Willow Glen. Willow Glen is a neighborhood in San Jose marked by super-cool retail and by architecturally distinguished Craftsman bungalows from the 1920s and 1930s. It’s like the fashionable parts of Pasadena. The surrounding area, as little as a block away from what is officially designated as Willow Glen, the 95125 zip code, might as well be South Central LA.</p>
<p>So if someone from San Jose is interested enough to come to the location given, they will quickly realize that they have been _had_ and the cult is lying to them. And they will jump back into their car and peel out of the parking lot and head two blocks into the heart of the real Willow Glen to sit at one of the convenient Starbucks locations on Lincoln Avenue and contemplate the tawdry fate that they narrowly escaped from. It’s the Bay Area. Joining a cult isn’t so bad. But joining a cult that lies by claiming a Willow Glen location when they’re on the wrong side of the creek… that will simply never do.</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://otviiiisgrrr8.com/2013/10/06/craigslist-vs-the-church-of-scientology/comment-page-1/#comment-3925" rel="nofollow ugc">http://otviiiisgrrr8.com/2013/10/06/craigslist-vs-the-church-of-scientology/comment-page-1/#comment-3925</a></p>
<p>3 Missions that are from 10 to 20 minutes driving distance from each other in San Jose, I can understand your perplexity at this state of affairs.</p>
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		By: plainoldthetan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2014 22:00:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/sunlandtujunga-mission-stats/#comment-41277&quot;&gt;remoteviewed&lt;/a&gt;.

The actual number of sign-ups for the ASHOF Auditor&#039;s Association was 1740. I know. I got a copy of the mailing list. And a major factor that collapsed the Association was GAT 1. The CO ASHOD went to the Auditor&#039;s Association Secretary and demanded that he round up auditors to recover pre-GAT auditors onto the re-training line-up. The demand included unannounced house-calls on the recoverees. After about a month of that bulls**t, the Association&#039;s active list dropped to 30.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/sunlandtujunga-mission-stats/#comment-41277">remoteviewed</a>.</p>
<p>The actual number of sign-ups for the ASHOF Auditor&#8217;s Association was 1740. I know. I got a copy of the mailing list. And a major factor that collapsed the Association was GAT 1. The CO ASHOD went to the Auditor&#8217;s Association Secretary and demanded that he round up auditors to recover pre-GAT auditors onto the re-training line-up. The demand included unannounced house-calls on the recoverees. After about a month of that bulls**t, the Association&#8217;s active list dropped to 30.</p>
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