So Dear Leader is now to be “honoured”.

I never thought I would live long enough to the end of Scn

Well as they say you can choose your friends but not your family.

All the best Mike

Mike, Oracle is right! You are a great product and example to all who see you. Continue to flourish and prosper. Thank you for what you do for the ones just leaving and the Indies already out.

Same here. I miss those days.

Interesting comments tony-b. You’re on this too, I see.

Let me elaborate just a little, for a touch more depth on ‘the present time’ thing. In fact, let me just be BRUTAL about it.

It’s almost impossible, to appreciate actual situations, surrounding one, if one is “out of P/T” For example, little Mr/Mrs Theetie Weetie, goes wondering off course, into a darkened alley, seeing moving shadows appearing to move closer. Thinking; “oh look at the fascinating shapes against that wall” tweetle tweet tweet! (whistle!) Hardly need to finish the story…..

My own life, involves regular confronting of real danger, on a regular basis, (so okay, I’m an adrenalin junkie still!) The point being, there’s nothing more likely to bring you to PT, than actual physical threats. Being a special task force cop, or bodyguard, puts this into perspective.

The TR’s, especially TR-O as we know, can permit almost anyone, to achieve the state of coming fully “up to Present Time.” Of course, there are other, more physical means, such as self defense capabilities,’fearlessness’ and confidence training, which allow one to extrovert and put one’s attention fully in PT.

The only thing of relevance in this comment, is that once one IS, in PT, one is then able to be there, ‘comfortably’ and actually ‘confront’, whatever is impinging, or imposing, or even threatening, upon one.

I dare say, this capacity (being in PT) is severely compromised, with anyone, still ensconced in the ‘mind control’ of the ‘Church’ of $cientology.

Would you agree?

The language in the letter reminds me of this song from the movie/musical State Fair:

Our state fair is a great state fair!
Don’t miss it, or even be late!
It’s dollars to doughnuts
That our state fair
Is the best state fair in our state!

The email has the same desperate optimism and repetitive sales pitches.

That righteousness rearing its ugly head was what got me too. I found myself sometimes being an apologist, and sometimes affirming that I thought the “tech” was great but the organization was screwed up.

Well, the tech and the organization came from the same source, and it turns out that they are both a mix of some valid points and much that is not.

I find myself wondering if religious beliefs like Islam, Christianity, Mormonism, etc. would have ever been able to take root in the age of the Internet and highly open scrutiny, fact checking, and such?

Robert – your corollary is true and is probably the best part. People listen to those who were in and high up the ladder. It makes me so happy to see these people waking up and speaking out as they have influence. I’m waiting for the next one to leave and tell us all about it.

I was mainly speaking for my own type of public going long and high up on the bridge. I was never a VIP in Scientology. Just a lowly public who went on course regularly and got trained and audited. I never made a big splash in the organization; always being more career and family focused (and have been called things like dilettante or “not cognited” by my peers within for that). Nor am I rich or famous either.

However, there are many other people just like me. We are counted as not very important by the higher ups (actually Miscavige & Co) but when we leave in numbers and talk about it, we actually are just that.

Sorry to raise an inconvenient truth, but all orgs were not St Hill Size before Miscavige came on the scene either. In fact, not of them were. Certainly not Boston even though it is written about in the LRHED as the “model” of how rapid expansion can occur (the subsequent collapse that inevitably follows intense stat pushing doesnt get a mention).

There have been no “advances” in tech or admin since the late 70’s that would have prevented SH Size orgs from being made prior to 1986….

This is the sort of dreamlike world that you see in the statements of the KoolAid drinkers. It’s just not real.

A sobering thought, Alanzo. I hadn’t looked at it from that perspective before. There’s something inherent within SCN that both drawers a person in – for all the right reasons – while simultaneously pushing them away. Fascinating. A concept worthy of further study.

Odd