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		By: The Oracle		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/tampa-idealsh-size-org-not-flourishing/#comment-6907</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jun 2013 00:24:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/tampa-idealsh-size-org-not-flourishing/#comment-6800&quot;&gt;Aquamarine&lt;/a&gt;.

No, She does not.]]></description>
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<p>No, She does not.</p>
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		By: Brett-Ex-Tampa-Staff		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/tampa-idealsh-size-org-not-flourishing/#comment-6903</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brett-Ex-Tampa-Staff]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jun 2013 23:37:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I know Lynn. He&#039;s basically a good guy. I&#039;m glad to hear he&#039;s no longer the ED of Tampa FND. He&#039;s much more capable than that lowly position in life. Bud Reichel is also gone from what I hear.,,which is another good thing. Bud&#039;s a good guy too. I knew them both and have the utmost respect for both of them.

Even though both had disconnected from me when I was declared, I always hoped that they would see the &quot;light&quot; and get out of the trap. It looks like that hope may be coming true. So I am glad for both of these men. Both are good guys who have been deceived like the rest of us. 

Sometimes, it takes longer to &quot;wake up&quot; the closer you are connected to the problem. I wish Lynn and Bud the best in their &quot;awakening&quot; and hope they spread the word without fear of reprisal. Godspeed.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know Lynn. He&#8217;s basically a good guy. I&#8217;m glad to hear he&#8217;s no longer the ED of Tampa FND. He&#8217;s much more capable than that lowly position in life. Bud Reichel is also gone from what I hear.,,which is another good thing. Bud&#8217;s a good guy too. I knew them both and have the utmost respect for both of them.</p>
<p>Even though both had disconnected from me when I was declared, I always hoped that they would see the &#8220;light&#8221; and get out of the trap. It looks like that hope may be coming true. So I am glad for both of these men. Both are good guys who have been deceived like the rest of us. </p>
<p>Sometimes, it takes longer to &#8220;wake up&#8221; the closer you are connected to the problem. I wish Lynn and Bud the best in their &#8220;awakening&#8221; and hope they spread the word without fear of reprisal. Godspeed.</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aquamarine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jun 2013 22:06:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/tampa-idealsh-size-org-not-flourishing/#comment-6822&quot;&gt;KFrancis&lt;/a&gt;.

I don&#039;t think that any ED can make a success out of an Ideal Org/Morgue which has been bought with the &quot;energy&quot; of its public.  As someone pointed out in Mike&#039;s article on the Buffalo org a short time ago, such an org cannot start out in non-existance as its actual beginning condition is Treason due to the off-policy manner in which it was established in the first place.  All such orgs start out below Non-E.  And speaking of Non-E, who hasn&#039;t heard about the Church of Scientology?  Never has it been more well-known, and not in a good way, that&#039;s for sure. The CO$ is viewed at best as a joke and at worst as a dangerous, greedy cult.   The deck is totally stacked against success and the only way to turn it around would be lowers starting from Treason and an AMAZINGLY honest and effective Liability Formula so that the &quot;Church&quot; could be accepted back into society.  I don&#039;t know Lynn Irons personally nor have I ever worked with him or done business with him, but I&#039;ve heard him  highly praised by some and highly criticised by others.  To me his ability or lack thereof is moot as I see that no-one can or will ever make these Ideal Morgue elephants fly, and for that reason alone I have compassion for any well-meaning K/A drinker willing to wear the E/D hat of one of the Dwarf&#039;s real estate holdings.]]></description>
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<p>I don&#8217;t think that any ED can make a success out of an Ideal Org/Morgue which has been bought with the &#8220;energy&#8221; of its public.  As someone pointed out in Mike&#8217;s article on the Buffalo org a short time ago, such an org cannot start out in non-existance as its actual beginning condition is Treason due to the off-policy manner in which it was established in the first place.  All such orgs start out below Non-E.  And speaking of Non-E, who hasn&#8217;t heard about the Church of Scientology?  Never has it been more well-known, and not in a good way, that&#8217;s for sure. The CO$ is viewed at best as a joke and at worst as a dangerous, greedy cult.   The deck is totally stacked against success and the only way to turn it around would be lowers starting from Treason and an AMAZINGLY honest and effective Liability Formula so that the &#8220;Church&#8221; could be accepted back into society.  I don&#8217;t know Lynn Irons personally nor have I ever worked with him or done business with him, but I&#8217;ve heard him  highly praised by some and highly criticised by others.  To me his ability or lack thereof is moot as I see that no-one can or will ever make these Ideal Morgue elephants fly, and for that reason alone I have compassion for any well-meaning K/A drinker willing to wear the E/D hat of one of the Dwarf&#8217;s real estate holdings.</p>
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		By: The Oracle		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/tampa-idealsh-size-org-not-flourishing/#comment-6893</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jun 2013 20:39:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/tampa-idealsh-size-org-not-flourishing/#comment-6824&quot;&gt;Steve Poore&lt;/a&gt;.

Everything Lynn has mocked up for the Church, has been unmocked by the Church. And, they have unmocked him, over and over and over again.  And, they have unmocked his family, over and over and over again.

You think about that, and you might see how the Church has managed or attempted to unmock you, your bank accounts, your family, your friends, your bridge, your training, your projects, your goals, your purposes, and then you will get some idea of the oppressive organization it has become.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/tampa-idealsh-size-org-not-flourishing/#comment-6824">Steve Poore</a>.</p>
<p>Everything Lynn has mocked up for the Church, has been unmocked by the Church. And, they have unmocked him, over and over and over again.  And, they have unmocked his family, over and over and over again.</p>
<p>You think about that, and you might see how the Church has managed or attempted to unmock you, your bank accounts, your family, your friends, your bridge, your training, your projects, your goals, your purposes, and then you will get some idea of the oppressive organization it has become.</p>
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		By: The Oracle		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jun 2013 20:30:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/tampa-idealsh-size-org-not-flourishing/#comment-6824&quot;&gt;Steve Poore&lt;/a&gt;.

We are for the most part, all of us good people. I have met Scientologists from all around the world and (I was never up Int Base) I can tell you I can count on two hands the number of people who really were not good people. 

I think we have all supported Miscavige is some way.  Because we were operating on lies. Lynn has been trusting of information given to him, as we all were. 

Who are the &quot;bad men&quot; I have met in Scientology?  Those O can more or less count on one hand.

It is not &quot;bad&quot; to be misinformed.  Most people in the Scientology have a very holy underlying purpose, to help their fellow man.

Do you know how easy it is to qualify as &quot;bad&quot; in the Church of Scientology?  Reading the Internet can qualify you a suppressive person.  Touching your pee pee can qualify you as a &quot;bad&quot; person.  Making love can qualify you as a &quot;bad&quot; person.  Harming attacking and suppressing can upgrade you in status!

The further you step away from the fanatics, and the &quot;group think&quot;, the more you realize we are all a pretty good bunch of people.

I had this &quot;reporter&quot;  show up from OSA show up at my home.  We started talking and I realized he was a good person. I didn&#039;t feel any urge to harm attack or suppress him.  He just didn&#039;t KNOW. If you are a member of the Church or working for the Church, you are NOT ALLOWED TO KNOW.

That really puts people at a disadvantage.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/tampa-idealsh-size-org-not-flourishing/#comment-6824">Steve Poore</a>.</p>
<p>We are for the most part, all of us good people. I have met Scientologists from all around the world and (I was never up Int Base) I can tell you I can count on two hands the number of people who really were not good people. </p>
<p>I think we have all supported Miscavige is some way.  Because we were operating on lies. Lynn has been trusting of information given to him, as we all were. </p>
<p>Who are the &#8220;bad men&#8221; I have met in Scientology?  Those O can more or less count on one hand.</p>
<p>It is not &#8220;bad&#8221; to be misinformed.  Most people in the Scientology have a very holy underlying purpose, to help their fellow man.</p>
<p>Do you know how easy it is to qualify as &#8220;bad&#8221; in the Church of Scientology?  Reading the Internet can qualify you a suppressive person.  Touching your pee pee can qualify you as a &#8220;bad&#8221; person.  Making love can qualify you as a &#8220;bad&#8221; person.  Harming attacking and suppressing can upgrade you in status!</p>
<p>The further you step away from the fanatics, and the &#8220;group think&#8221;, the more you realize we are all a pretty good bunch of people.</p>
<p>I had this &#8220;reporter&#8221;  show up from OSA show up at my home.  We started talking and I realized he was a good person. I didn&#8217;t feel any urge to harm attack or suppress him.  He just didn&#8217;t KNOW. If you are a member of the Church or working for the Church, you are NOT ALLOWED TO KNOW.</p>
<p>That really puts people at a disadvantage.</p>
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		By: Jane Doe		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jun 2013 17:08:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/tampa-idealsh-size-org-not-flourishing/#comment-6801&quot;&gt;SILVIA&lt;/a&gt;.

Well said Silvia!]]></description>
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<p>Well said Silvia!</p>
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		By: Steve Poore		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve Poore]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jun 2013 16:11:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/tampa-idealsh-size-org-not-flourishing/#comment-6823&quot;&gt;sets guy&lt;/a&gt;.

No Chance! The whales like Irons will be the last to go. Too Much Vested Interest - again, money and status - what they call power, what is in actual fact Degradation!  DB&#039;s in shinny suits, driving shinny cars. Oh yes, they&#039;re envied, BUT BY WHO?]]></description>
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<p>No Chance! The whales like Irons will be the last to go. Too Much Vested Interest &#8211; again, money and status &#8211; what they call power, what is in actual fact Degradation!  DB&#8217;s in shinny suits, driving shinny cars. Oh yes, they&#8217;re envied, BUT BY WHO?</p>
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		By: Steve Poore		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve Poore]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jun 2013 15:52:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/tampa-idealsh-size-org-not-flourishing/#comment-6791&quot;&gt;The Oracle&lt;/a&gt;.

Oracle, If compromising your personal integrity - selling your soul for Money and Status, and Supporting miscavige in the destruction of Scientology is “good”,   then YES, Irons is “A Very Good Man!”]]></description>
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<p>Oracle, If compromising your personal integrity &#8211; selling your soul for Money and Status, and Supporting miscavige in the destruction of Scientology is “good”,   then YES, Irons is “A Very Good Man!”</p>
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		By: sets guy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jun 2013 15:34:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/tampa-idealsh-size-org-not-flourishing/#comment-6800&quot;&gt;Aquamarine&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes.  She probably disconnected immediately.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/tampa-idealsh-size-org-not-flourishing/#comment-6800">Aquamarine</a>.</p>
<p>Yes.  She probably disconnected immediately.</p>
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		By: KFrancis		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jun 2013 15:11:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[“Two sig runes drawn side by side like lightning bolts was soon adopted by all branches of the SS”. It symbolized the cry, “Victory! Victory!”...........A Definition

That is a very cold and uninviting façade and I am sure at one time had much more beautiful front doors. IIt’s unfortunate that the two symbols were left in place on the ceiling of the entrance as well. The symbols too closely resemble the Nazi SS lightning bolts. (Though in this case turned back to back)
 
I know it’s a bit of nitpicking but I noticed it right away having an interest in architecture.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Two sig runes drawn side by side like lightning bolts was soon adopted by all branches of the SS”. It symbolized the cry, “Victory! Victory!”&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..A Definition</p>
<p>That is a very cold and uninviting façade and I am sure at one time had much more beautiful front doors. IIt’s unfortunate that the two symbols were left in place on the ceiling of the entrance as well. The symbols too closely resemble the Nazi SS lightning bolts. (Though in this case turned back to back)</p>
<p>I know it’s a bit of nitpicking but I noticed it right away having an interest in architecture.</p>
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