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		By: thegman77		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-10x-ideal-org-expansion/#comment-172105</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Apr 2017 22:12:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-10x-ideal-org-expansion/#comment-171989&quot;&gt;exemplaryangel&lt;/a&gt;.

THAT is funny!  Well done! LOL]]></description>
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<p>THAT is funny!  Well done! LOL</p>
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		By: thegman77		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Apr 2017 22:11:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-10x-ideal-org-expansion/#comment-171997&quot;&gt;James Rosso&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you for your grammarly courage!  I was raised long ago by a writer and woe unto me when I  used the wrong word or spelling!  Drove it home hard!  I fear it&#039;s no longer taught (or learned?) very well.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-10x-ideal-org-expansion/#comment-171997">James Rosso</a>.</p>
<p>Thank you for your grammarly courage!  I was raised long ago by a writer and woe unto me when I  used the wrong word or spelling!  Drove it home hard!  I fear it&#8217;s no longer taught (or learned?) very well.</p>
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		By: L Yash		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[L Yash]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Apr 2017 21:22:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-10x-ideal-org-expansion/#comment-172072&quot;&gt;exemplaryangel&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you so much &quot;EAngel&quot;....after leaving the legal dept of the NYC institution I worked for I went to work for Social Services....Fam Services and also CPS.  I&#039;ve heard stories of all kinds of abuse, stories that you might find here. It also involved issues with housing etc. 
 Things got a lot better when restrictions were put in place for the safety of the tenants, but with that comes unforeseen issues with space requirements, number of bathrooms, fire safety as I already mentioned...INCLUDING the number of DOORS and SIZE of Windows to escape a fire along with necessary Fire Escapes systems on the outside of the buildings if it&#039;s a two story or higher bldg

I recently spearheaded our local Township into applying to our State Reps to Institute a local International Bldg Code for the OUTSDE of property either privately or landlord owned because some of the landlords in the area have apartment bldgs. or rental homes that look like junk yards and are a danger to tenant and/or children. The Ordinance was recently approved and accepted in our Township.

Sadly when one is &quot;escaping a church&quot; that is recognized by the US Government. as meeting the requirements to be recognized as such......now that is a huge huge messy sticky  issue.  

Yes, hopefully someone with authority/power/connections/money might step forward...until then, well, we can just do what we can do!  Sooner or later as some have mentioned the long time elderly will pass away or become sick and placed in nursing homes, the congregation as such MAY shrink down as possibly some of the younger ones will opted out for a better more secure life....we can ONLY hope.

Thank you dear friend, you ARE an Angel!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-10x-ideal-org-expansion/#comment-172072">exemplaryangel</a>.</p>
<p>Thank you so much &#8220;EAngel&#8221;&#8230;.after leaving the legal dept of the NYC institution I worked for I went to work for Social Services&#8230;.Fam Services and also CPS.  I&#8217;ve heard stories of all kinds of abuse, stories that you might find here. It also involved issues with housing etc.<br />
 Things got a lot better when restrictions were put in place for the safety of the tenants, but with that comes unforeseen issues with space requirements, number of bathrooms, fire safety as I already mentioned&#8230;INCLUDING the number of DOORS and SIZE of Windows to escape a fire along with necessary Fire Escapes systems on the outside of the buildings if it&#8217;s a two story or higher bldg</p>
<p>I recently spearheaded our local Township into applying to our State Reps to Institute a local International Bldg Code for the OUTSDE of property either privately or landlord owned because some of the landlords in the area have apartment bldgs. or rental homes that look like junk yards and are a danger to tenant and/or children. The Ordinance was recently approved and accepted in our Township.</p>
<p>Sadly when one is &#8220;escaping a church&#8221; that is recognized by the US Government. as meeting the requirements to be recognized as such&#8230;&#8230;now that is a huge huge messy sticky  issue.  </p>
<p>Yes, hopefully someone with authority/power/connections/money might step forward&#8230;until then, well, we can just do what we can do!  Sooner or later as some have mentioned the long time elderly will pass away or become sick and placed in nursing homes, the congregation as such MAY shrink down as possibly some of the younger ones will opted out for a better more secure life&#8230;.we can ONLY hope.</p>
<p>Thank you dear friend, you ARE an Angel!</p>
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		By: peggy2176il		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Apr 2017 21:21:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I am hoping that there is a network of blown people who help along the way.....talking to others helps greatly. Guidance from those that have gone before.  
Hoping the Apocalypse is at had for Scientology.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am hoping that there is a network of blown people who help along the way&#8230;..talking to others helps greatly. Guidance from those that have gone before.<br />
Hoping the Apocalypse is at had for Scientology.</p>
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		By: exemplaryangel		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Apr 2017 19:14:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-10x-ideal-org-expansion/#comment-172054&quot;&gt;L Yash&lt;/a&gt;.

LYash, it&#039;s obvious how much time and thought that you have put into all of this. It&#039;s so sad that the current climate and circumstance is what it is. But, I don&#039;t want to give up hope that somehow, somewhere, something can be done. Waiting for the organization to implode is going to take some time. Plus, the people who will unfiortunately make out with all the money and proceeds will undoubtably be the lawyers, on both sides. Something needs to be put in place, especially for the elderly and infirm, destitute. 7 days won&#039;t even make a dent in the problem. We can&#039;t give up hope]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-10x-ideal-org-expansion/#comment-172054">L Yash</a>.</p>
<p>LYash, it&#8217;s obvious how much time and thought that you have put into all of this. It&#8217;s so sad that the current climate and circumstance is what it is. But, I don&#8217;t want to give up hope that somehow, somewhere, something can be done. Waiting for the organization to implode is going to take some time. Plus, the people who will unfiortunately make out with all the money and proceeds will undoubtably be the lawyers, on both sides. Something needs to be put in place, especially for the elderly and infirm, destitute. 7 days won&#8217;t even make a dent in the problem. We can&#8217;t give up hope</p>
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		By: exemplaryangel		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Apr 2017 19:07:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-10x-ideal-org-expansion/#comment-172047&quot;&gt;RAdams&lt;/a&gt;.

RAdams, that is so very heartbreaking, indeed. I admire your strength and courage in dealing with it all.]]></description>
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<p>RAdams, that is so very heartbreaking, indeed. I admire your strength and courage in dealing with it all.</p>
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		By: Lawrence		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Apr 2017 18:45:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-10x-ideal-org-expansion/#comment-172011&quot;&gt;I Yawnalot&lt;/a&gt;.

It was probably the psychiatrists again up to their old tricks. :)]]></description>
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<p>It was probably the psychiatrists again up to their old tricks. 🙂</p>
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		By: L Yash		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-10x-ideal-org-expansion/#comment-172055</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[L Yash]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Apr 2017 17:34:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-10x-ideal-org-expansion/#comment-172028&quot;&gt;Aquamarine&lt;/a&gt;.

None are so blind as those who will NOT see........]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-10x-ideal-org-expansion/#comment-172028">Aquamarine</a>.</p>
<p>None are so blind as those who will NOT see&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
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		By: L Yash		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[L Yash]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Apr 2017 17:30:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-10x-ideal-org-expansion/#comment-172043&quot;&gt;exemplaryangel&lt;/a&gt;.

Checking around on my own as I already noted,  it seems nearly impossible, a safe haven or half way house in a &quot;town&quot; where store fronts are for Commercial purposes only, and NOT made to house even temporarily people is not permitted.  There are  health, safety, fire concerns &#038; over all square footage.
 
Rental homes are another issue, but runs the same scenario....smoke detectors, fire alarms, fire sprinklers in case of a fire, appropriate number of bathrooms and bedrooms....sleep arrangements meeting occupancy standards etc. . 

NIMBY is another issue (Not In My Back Yard) people in the communities NOT wanting a safe haven or half way recover house for the simple reason as seen on TV...harassment by members of &quot;those still in&quot;, chasing down those who escaped.  

There are some half way houses for recovering drug addicts, but nothing seems to &quot;fly&quot; when it comes to people who exit a cult....excuse me.....&quot;religious organization&quot; that they&#039;ve given their all to.  What a sticky wicket mess this is.  Landlord will only rent to families, ONE family, unless it&#039;s a &quot;multi family home&quot;...and THEN there would have to be along term lease signed by folks with INCOMES. 

Local churches (REAL ones) in this area offer a week&#039;s worth of &quot;sleeping arrangements for homeless men, for 7 nights. During the day the visitors cannot stay. The are fed ONE meal at dinner, offered showers, and donated clothing.  They are checked for drug and alcohol on their person or in their baggage before they are permitted to stay for the night.  Each church group that participates offers only 7 nights and then it&#039;s back to the regular shelters or streets when that time period ends.  

The older folks will sooner or later be  &quot;put out to pasture&quot;, as many will end up in a nursing home where the government is paying for their care until they die, and then they will be buried in a paupers grave as is common to those without funds.

If something happens, the money recovered could hopefully be used for housing, food, counseling, clothing and hopefully getting some of the BUILDINGS that CO$ currently has, and a reputable person(s) funding the operations. 

Meanwhile, those in power continue to thrive on the best in housing, food, entertainment and personal possession due to the donations of their &quot;church members&quot;....sickening  &#038; sad.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-10x-ideal-org-expansion/#comment-172043">exemplaryangel</a>.</p>
<p>Checking around on my own as I already noted,  it seems nearly impossible, a safe haven or half way house in a &#8220;town&#8221; where store fronts are for Commercial purposes only, and NOT made to house even temporarily people is not permitted.  There are  health, safety, fire concerns &amp; over all square footage.</p>
<p>Rental homes are another issue, but runs the same scenario&#8230;.smoke detectors, fire alarms, fire sprinklers in case of a fire, appropriate number of bathrooms and bedrooms&#8230;.sleep arrangements meeting occupancy standards etc. . </p>
<p>NIMBY is another issue (Not In My Back Yard) people in the communities NOT wanting a safe haven or half way recover house for the simple reason as seen on TV&#8230;harassment by members of &#8220;those still in&#8221;, chasing down those who escaped.  </p>
<p>There are some half way houses for recovering drug addicts, but nothing seems to &#8220;fly&#8221; when it comes to people who exit a cult&#8230;.excuse me&#8230;..&#8221;religious organization&#8221; that they&#8217;ve given their all to.  What a sticky wicket mess this is.  Landlord will only rent to families, ONE family, unless it&#8217;s a &#8220;multi family home&#8221;&#8230;and THEN there would have to be along term lease signed by folks with INCOMES. </p>
<p>Local churches (REAL ones) in this area offer a week&#8217;s worth of &#8220;sleeping arrangements for homeless men, for 7 nights. During the day the visitors cannot stay. The are fed ONE meal at dinner, offered showers, and donated clothing.  They are checked for drug and alcohol on their person or in their baggage before they are permitted to stay for the night.  Each church group that participates offers only 7 nights and then it&#8217;s back to the regular shelters or streets when that time period ends.  </p>
<p>The older folks will sooner or later be  &#8220;put out to pasture&#8221;, as many will end up in a nursing home where the government is paying for their care until they die, and then they will be buried in a paupers grave as is common to those without funds.</p>
<p>If something happens, the money recovered could hopefully be used for housing, food, counseling, clothing and hopefully getting some of the BUILDINGS that CO$ currently has, and a reputable person(s) funding the operations. </p>
<p>Meanwhile, those in power continue to thrive on the best in housing, food, entertainment and personal possession due to the donations of their &#8220;church members&#8221;&#8230;.sickening  &amp; sad.</p>
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		By: Cecybeans		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Apr 2017 17:19:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-10x-ideal-org-expansion/#comment-172001&quot;&gt;Cece&lt;/a&gt;.

That is sad.  And unfortunate that an organization dedicated to removing suffering from the world causes it for its own members so often.  It sounds like a dichotomy factory that creates a convoluted doublespeak of cognitive dissonance and not much else.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-10x-ideal-org-expansion/#comment-172001">Cece</a>.</p>
<p>That is sad.  And unfortunate that an organization dedicated to removing suffering from the world causes it for its own members so often.  It sounds like a dichotomy factory that creates a convoluted doublespeak of cognitive dissonance and not much else.</p>
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