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		By: Episode 67: Listener Questions #9		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] My earlier post about scientology PI&#8217;s and which ones are scientologists:  The Black Bag Department [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] My earlier post about scientology PI&#8217;s and which ones are scientologists:  The Black Bag Department [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Alcoboy		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-black-bag-department-2/#comment-332348</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2020 02:19:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-black-bag-department-2/#comment-331345&quot;&gt;jere Lull (39 years recovering)&lt;/a&gt;.

Right, Jere, and that&#039;s my whole point. The org didn&#039;t have a fundraiser to rake in cash or organize a &#039;relief party&#039; for pr purposes. Normally they would have done both!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-black-bag-department-2/#comment-331345">jere Lull (39 years recovering)</a>.</p>
<p>Right, Jere, and that&#8217;s my whole point. The org didn&#8217;t have a fundraiser to rake in cash or organize a &#8216;relief party&#8217; for pr purposes. Normally they would have done both!</p>
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		By: Phillip		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2020 03:05:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This reads like a Crime Novel.  Big Louie is running operations in California, while Sneaky Pete is overseeing operations in England.    Meanwhile Twitchy Dave handles payroll through some sleazy mouthpieces (lawyers) making it appear someone else is the boss.

If ever there was an operation that the RICO laws were enacted for - it&#039;s this outfit.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This reads like a Crime Novel.  Big Louie is running operations in California, while Sneaky Pete is overseeing operations in England.    Meanwhile Twitchy Dave handles payroll through some sleazy mouthpieces (lawyers) making it appear someone else is the boss.</p>
<p>If ever there was an operation that the RICO laws were enacted for &#8211; it&#8217;s this outfit.</p>
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		By: jere Lull (39 years recovering)		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-black-bag-department-2/#comment-331347</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jere Lull (39 years recovering)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2020 02:50:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-black-bag-department-2/#comment-331297&quot;&gt;LoosingMyReligion&lt;/a&gt;.

LoosingMyReligion: scientology has never BEEN a religion, except in the very widest, most convoluted possible definition, and only in NAME when they think it suits their purpose.  

I was &quot;In&quot; in NYC in the early &#039;70s when they started adding in the Catholic church trappings to fool certain of the rubes. I even had to do that laughable Ministers&#039; Course to do the Academy Levels.  Never DID act AS a minister or ever claim to be on, of course. I can&#039;t lie like that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-black-bag-department-2/#comment-331297">LoosingMyReligion</a>.</p>
<p>LoosingMyReligion: scientology has never BEEN a religion, except in the very widest, most convoluted possible definition, and only in NAME when they think it suits their purpose.  </p>
<p>I was &#8220;In&#8221; in NYC in the early &#8217;70s when they started adding in the Catholic church trappings to fool certain of the rubes. I even had to do that laughable Ministers&#8217; Course to do the Academy Levels.  Never DID act AS a minister or ever claim to be on, of course. I can&#8217;t lie like that.</p>
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		By: jere Lull (39 years recovering)		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-black-bag-department-2/#comment-331345</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jere Lull (39 years recovering)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2020 02:40:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-black-bag-department-2/#comment-331334&quot;&gt;Alcoboy&lt;/a&gt;.

Alcoboy:  There&#039;s no mystery.  scientology doesn&#039;t care about anything other than money inflow.  It&#039;s NOT, and never has been a charitable organization or a church, only an organization putting on the trappings of church or charity when it seems to suit its immediate purpose, making  money.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-black-bag-department-2/#comment-331334">Alcoboy</a>.</p>
<p>Alcoboy:  There&#8217;s no mystery.  scientology doesn&#8217;t care about anything other than money inflow.  It&#8217;s NOT, and never has been a charitable organization or a church, only an organization putting on the trappings of church or charity when it seems to suit its immediate purpose, making  money.</p>
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		By: jere Lull (39 years recovering)		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-black-bag-department-2/#comment-331344</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jere Lull (39 years recovering)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2020 02:34:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-black-bag-department-2/#comment-331314&quot;&gt;Aquamarine&lt;/a&gt;.

True Dat, Aqua.  Individual scientologists, in my experience, had no ulterior motives, only wanted to help scientology help mankind.  NICE people, individually. But they could be persuaded to do not-nice  things in service to &quot;the cause&quot;. Didn&#039;t take a LOT of persuasion IF the TARGETS were said to be SPs or other DBs.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-black-bag-department-2/#comment-331314">Aquamarine</a>.</p>
<p>True Dat, Aqua.  Individual scientologists, in my experience, had no ulterior motives, only wanted to help scientology help mankind.  NICE people, individually. But they could be persuaded to do not-nice  things in service to &#8220;the cause&#8221;. Didn&#8217;t take a LOT of persuasion IF the TARGETS were said to be SPs or other DBs.</p>
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		By: jere Lull (39 years recovering)		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-black-bag-department-2/#comment-331342</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jere Lull (39 years recovering)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2020 02:29:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-black-bag-department-2/#comment-331320&quot;&gt;Wynski&lt;/a&gt;.

Wynski asked:
&quot;who said any given religion has to be about doing good?&quot;

That&#039;s the *assumption* about religions that underpins their getting tax exemption; It USED to be true: In local areas (parishes), if a congregant was down on his luck, the local church usually was the only place from which any assistance was extended. It was deemed that the tax the church would have paid was better spent by the church to directly help parishioners in need.  Since scientology gives NOTHING away, but demands payment up front for every service they *might* provide, scientology fails the &quot;charity&quot; test the UK requires be passed before getting tax forgiveness  ( or whatever they call it there).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-black-bag-department-2/#comment-331320">Wynski</a>.</p>
<p>Wynski asked:<br />
&#8220;who said any given religion has to be about doing good?&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the *assumption* about religions that underpins their getting tax exemption; It USED to be true: In local areas (parishes), if a congregant was down on his luck, the local church usually was the only place from which any assistance was extended. It was deemed that the tax the church would have paid was better spent by the church to directly help parishioners in need.  Since scientology gives NOTHING away, but demands payment up front for every service they *might* provide, scientology fails the &#8220;charity&#8221; test the UK requires be passed before getting tax forgiveness  ( or whatever they call it there).</p>
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		By: LoosingMyReligion		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-black-bag-department-2/#comment-331339</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2020 02:06:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-black-bag-department-2/#comment-331320&quot;&gt;Wynski&lt;/a&gt;.

Wynski.
Sure. What I meant was also that any semblance of wanting to be seen as a religion now disappeared after knowing all these things.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-black-bag-department-2/#comment-331320">Wynski</a>.</p>
<p>Wynski.<br />
Sure. What I meant was also that any semblance of wanting to be seen as a religion now disappeared after knowing all these things.</p>
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		By: Alcoboy		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-black-bag-department-2/#comment-331334</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alcoboy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2020 01:03:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A little off topic but I was looking just now at the CCNashville website. To my surprise there was no mention of the March 3rd tornadoes that devastated the city. WTF? My shock is because there is no call for people to cough up thousands of dollars to send in an army of VMs to administer LRH tech! I am not trying to trivialize a major disaster(and having lived in Nashville for five years my heart goes out to the victims) but isn&#039;t this what Scientology does? Use a disaster  as a cash cow? Again, my heart goes out to the victims of this tragedy and I hope and pray that, in due time, Nashville will recover and shine once again.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A little off topic but I was looking just now at the CCNashville website. To my surprise there was no mention of the March 3rd tornadoes that devastated the city. WTF? My shock is because there is no call for people to cough up thousands of dollars to send in an army of VMs to administer LRH tech! I am not trying to trivialize a major disaster(and having lived in Nashville for five years my heart goes out to the victims) but isn&#8217;t this what Scientology does? Use a disaster  as a cash cow? Again, my heart goes out to the victims of this tragedy and I hope and pray that, in due time, Nashville will recover and shine once again.</p>
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		By: Wynski		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-black-bag-department-2/#comment-331320</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wynski]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2020 22:12:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-black-bag-department-2/#comment-331297&quot;&gt;LoosingMyReligion&lt;/a&gt;.

LoosingMyReligion, who said any given religion has to be about doing good?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-black-bag-department-2/#comment-331297">LoosingMyReligion</a>.</p>
<p>LoosingMyReligion, who said any given religion has to be about doing good?</p>
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