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		By: Jere Lull (38 years recovering)		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jere Lull (38 years recovering)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2018 01:33:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-dead-agent-pack-was-compiled-from-pc-folders/#comment-84394&quot;&gt;OTVIIIisGrrr8!&lt;/a&gt;.

Grrrr8:&quot;Tom Cruise may likely prove to be a Psych before this thing is over with.&quot;  Good line!

It&#039;s more likely that Dwarfenführer is a Psych or psych plant as he certainly is doing the SPs proud.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-dead-agent-pack-was-compiled-from-pc-folders/#comment-84394">OTVIIIisGrrr8!</a>.</p>
<p>Grrrr8:&#8221;Tom Cruise may likely prove to be a Psych before this thing is over with.&#8221;  Good line!</p>
<p>It&#8217;s more likely that Dwarfenführer is a Psych or psych plant as he certainly is doing the SPs proud.</p>
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		By: Carlos Rocha		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Carlos Rocha]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2015 17:48:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[When I was issued my Comm Ev, I was the last person to see it.  It was shocking because it contained information I had written up on O/W write-ups over 8 years ago!  I had heard this from public, but just like everyone else, I had drank the cool-aid.  I thought it was absurd!  That information is confidential and no one but your auditor and C/S are allowed this information.  Well, there it was for all to see.  What I thought was a relief and a forgiveness of transgression was now being used against me and slapped in my face.  Nothing new was found.  The only new information was the lie I had stated so that I can leave!  I was tired of the verbal abuse, the invalidation and no rest!  This is still used today!  Most recently was the Dead Agent of both Mike and Marty in response to the Going Clear HBO Documentary.  On Freedom.org I saw a video that looked like actual pages from O/W write-ups.  They never stated the date of the claims.  They also show footage where they are being harassed on video.  The video was twisting information matching the video with outdated info from past O/W write-ups!  I then realized why they pay for PI&#039;s and use Scientologist to follow ex-Scientologist around.  They are trying to antagonize you so that you act violent towards them and then record it on video and add twisting information to make you seem crazy.  They don&#039;t explain what the heck they are doing at their home.  They act as if they were just passing by when they were attacked.  The nerve of these tactics!    

http://scientology101.org/for-scientologists/current-church/confidential-pc-folders/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I was issued my Comm Ev, I was the last person to see it.  It was shocking because it contained information I had written up on O/W write-ups over 8 years ago!  I had heard this from public, but just like everyone else, I had drank the cool-aid.  I thought it was absurd!  That information is confidential and no one but your auditor and C/S are allowed this information.  Well, there it was for all to see.  What I thought was a relief and a forgiveness of transgression was now being used against me and slapped in my face.  Nothing new was found.  The only new information was the lie I had stated so that I can leave!  I was tired of the verbal abuse, the invalidation and no rest!  This is still used today!  Most recently was the Dead Agent of both Mike and Marty in response to the Going Clear HBO Documentary.  On Freedom.org I saw a video that looked like actual pages from O/W write-ups.  They never stated the date of the claims.  They also show footage where they are being harassed on video.  The video was twisting information matching the video with outdated info from past O/W write-ups!  I then realized why they pay for PI&#8217;s and use Scientologist to follow ex-Scientologist around.  They are trying to antagonize you so that you act violent towards them and then record it on video and add twisting information to make you seem crazy.  They don&#8217;t explain what the heck they are doing at their home.  They act as if they were just passing by when they were attacked.  The nerve of these tactics!    </p>
<p><a href="http://scientology101.org/for-scientologists/current-church/confidential-pc-folders/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://scientology101.org/for-scientologists/current-church/confidential-pc-folders/</a></p>
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		By: cindy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cindy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2015 23:50:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-dead-agent-pack-was-compiled-from-pc-folders/#comment-84410&quot;&gt;overrunincalif&lt;/a&gt;.

We could make a new card game to play.  It would be like Bridge only more fun. We could call it Non-Bridge (in more ways than one) and find out which policy trumps which one.  One person discards the &quot;priest penitent policy regarding auditing sessions&quot; and the next player puts down &quot;Fair Game&quot; card and wins that trick.  And it goes on and on.  What a fun game that would be.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-dead-agent-pack-was-compiled-from-pc-folders/#comment-84410">overrunincalif</a>.</p>
<p>We could make a new card game to play.  It would be like Bridge only more fun. We could call it Non-Bridge (in more ways than one) and find out which policy trumps which one.  One person discards the &#8220;priest penitent policy regarding auditing sessions&#8221; and the next player puts down &#8220;Fair Game&#8221; card and wins that trick.  And it goes on and on.  What a fun game that would be.</p>
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		By: Tara		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tara]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2015 18:30:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-dead-agent-pack-was-compiled-from-pc-folders/#comment-84546&quot;&gt;FOTF2012&lt;/a&gt;.

Perfect! LMAO]]></description>
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<p>Perfect! LMAO</p>
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		By: Tara		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tara]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2015 17:38:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-dead-agent-pack-was-compiled-from-pc-folders/#comment-84338&quot;&gt;John Locke&lt;/a&gt;.

That made me ROFLMAO!]]></description>
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<p>That made me ROFLMAO!</p>
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		By: Tara		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-dead-agent-pack-was-compiled-from-pc-folders/#comment-84630</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tara]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2015 17:30:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-dead-agent-pack-was-compiled-from-pc-folders/#comment-84396&quot;&gt;Sindy Sloan Fagen&lt;/a&gt;.

Agreed!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-dead-agent-pack-was-compiled-from-pc-folders/#comment-84396">Sindy Sloan Fagen</a>.</p>
<p>Agreed!</p>
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		By: FOTF2012		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[FOTF2012]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2015 22:07:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[These dead agent packs are hysterical. The idea that people would sneak into the church and work for decades, earning trust and sacrificing their lives, so that decades later they could &quot;reveal&quot; their SP nature is so laughable it should be a comedy skit. 

Well, it pretty much is. The church&#039;s reasoning is very much like that of Kramer and Jerry after Jerry lost his sneakers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwnanPuuCwk&#038;index=84&#038;list=PLCA1A55D4A7EBFDEB

Elaine points out how ludicrous the whole idea is.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These dead agent packs are hysterical. The idea that people would sneak into the church and work for decades, earning trust and sacrificing their lives, so that decades later they could &#8220;reveal&#8221; their SP nature is so laughable it should be a comedy skit. </p>
<p>Well, it pretty much is. The church&#8217;s reasoning is very much like that of Kramer and Jerry after Jerry lost his sneakers: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwnanPuuCwk&#038;index=84&#038;list=PLCA1A55D4A7EBFDEB" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwnanPuuCwk&#038;index=84&#038;list=PLCA1A55D4A7EBFDEB</a></p>
<p>Elaine points out how ludicrous the whole idea is.</p>
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		By: Lawrence		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lawrence]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2015 21:04:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-dead-agent-pack-was-compiled-from-pc-folders/#comment-84391&quot;&gt;Sindy Sloan Fagen&lt;/a&gt;.

The Church of Scientology is the greatest out ethics and overt to ever be created on this planet. The true technology &quot;of the church&quot; has not been available before anywhere and was not even known (in spite of the eternal questions it answers). Yet, the Church of Scientology and it&#039;s members have yet found the time and money to twist this true tech, invalidate it and pretend that something else is meant by it to the public. Every time a person in the church spots this outness they are declared an SP by the church and NEVER commended for keeping Scientology working (a policy one must read before beginning ANY course pack in the church). Why should the people on this planet &quot;wait for the church to get around to helping them&quot;? A church that never will get around to helping most people. People should help themselves and if the Church of Scientology gets in the way of that than &quot;Who put the Church of Scientology in charge?&quot; The winners and the victors will be those people who actually better the lives of those around them with this tech, not lie to them about what it is for money or personal gain. It is a sad day for the church, but a good day for the truth and Mankind. I have always believed the federal government more competent at delivering auditing and training than ANY Church of Scientology and the governments&#039; schedule is much more 9 to 5 as well.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-dead-agent-pack-was-compiled-from-pc-folders/#comment-84391">Sindy Sloan Fagen</a>.</p>
<p>The Church of Scientology is the greatest out ethics and overt to ever be created on this planet. The true technology &#8220;of the church&#8221; has not been available before anywhere and was not even known (in spite of the eternal questions it answers). Yet, the Church of Scientology and it&#8217;s members have yet found the time and money to twist this true tech, invalidate it and pretend that something else is meant by it to the public. Every time a person in the church spots this outness they are declared an SP by the church and NEVER commended for keeping Scientology working (a policy one must read before beginning ANY course pack in the church). Why should the people on this planet &#8220;wait for the church to get around to helping them&#8221;? A church that never will get around to helping most people. People should help themselves and if the Church of Scientology gets in the way of that than &#8220;Who put the Church of Scientology in charge?&#8221; The winners and the victors will be those people who actually better the lives of those around them with this tech, not lie to them about what it is for money or personal gain. It is a sad day for the church, but a good day for the truth and Mankind. I have always believed the federal government more competent at delivering auditing and training than ANY Church of Scientology and the governments&#8217; schedule is much more 9 to 5 as well.</p>
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		By: genetru		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[genetru]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2015 18:31:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-dead-agent-pack-was-compiled-from-pc-folders/#comment-84331&quot;&gt;LDW&lt;/a&gt;.

Which is done via third party independent testing with measures taken to eliminate observational bias. Everyone should have to do that before a technique is OKed to be applied to someone else&#039;s mind  so it can be checked for error or actual malice like mind control.

The same applies to anyone, whether they be &quot;psychs&quot;, Scientologist, or anybody else. Now that I understand the insidious nature of surreptitious mind control within a supposed therapy, it will need to be watched for. People are not going to stop trying to brainwash others, unfortunately. When it is mixed with valid therapy it is difficult to differentiate the two since they both involve a shift.

The difference being that mind control /hypnosis removes the person&#039;s own goals and replaces them with the goal of the hypnotic operators to remain under their control, whereas therapy brings them to their highest self, free of the control of the operator.

Hubbard referred to it as &quot;altitude&quot;. Hypnotic control maintains the altitude of the operator, therapy lessens the altitude of the operator and increases the altitude of the patient.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-dead-agent-pack-was-compiled-from-pc-folders/#comment-84331">LDW</a>.</p>
<p>Which is done via third party independent testing with measures taken to eliminate observational bias. Everyone should have to do that before a technique is OKed to be applied to someone else&#8217;s mind  so it can be checked for error or actual malice like mind control.</p>
<p>The same applies to anyone, whether they be &#8220;psychs&#8221;, Scientologist, or anybody else. Now that I understand the insidious nature of surreptitious mind control within a supposed therapy, it will need to be watched for. People are not going to stop trying to brainwash others, unfortunately. When it is mixed with valid therapy it is difficult to differentiate the two since they both involve a shift.</p>
<p>The difference being that mind control /hypnosis removes the person&#8217;s own goals and replaces them with the goal of the hypnotic operators to remain under their control, whereas therapy brings them to their highest self, free of the control of the operator.</p>
<p>Hubbard referred to it as &#8220;altitude&#8221;. Hypnotic control maintains the altitude of the operator, therapy lessens the altitude of the operator and increases the altitude of the patient.</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kemist]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2015 14:22:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-dead-agent-pack-was-compiled-from-pc-folders/#comment-84333&quot;&gt;Roger Hornaday&lt;/a&gt;.

Poe&#039;s Law : the genuine ramblings of true fanatics are cannot be distinguished from parodies thereof.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-dead-agent-pack-was-compiled-from-pc-folders/#comment-84333">Roger Hornaday</a>.</p>
<p>Poe&#8217;s Law : the genuine ramblings of true fanatics are cannot be distinguished from parodies thereof.</p>
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