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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Dec 2019 00:12:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-economic-impact-of-scientology-on-clearwater/#comment-312994&quot;&gt;RoseMarie&lt;/a&gt;.

RoseMarie or somebody,

I understand how and why celebrities (both Scn and Non Scn) are sheltered, cocooned, etc.  People are depending upon them to perform. Many peoples&#039; jobs and lives hinge on actors and other entertainers being ready, willing and able to perform well, so their handlers shield them from what they know upsets them greatly.  I get that.  I don&#039;t agree, necessarily, but its reasonable, its understandable.  In Scientologese one would say, &quot;I can think with that.&quot;  Ok.

Here&#039;s what I DON&#039;T for the life of me get:
Bob Duggan is a billionaire BUSINESSMAN.  On the &quot;comm lines&quot; of the world, with his billions, n&#039;est-ce-pas?  His communication lines have to be enormous and highly varied. So how on God&#039;s green earth is it POSSIBLE to shield this guy, to shutter him away from the ACTUAL scene that is Scientology?  Forbid him from reading the internet?  Are ALL of his employees Scientologists?  How is this done - keeping him ignorant and believing?  I have to be missing something here!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-economic-impact-of-scientology-on-clearwater/#comment-312994">RoseMarie</a>.</p>
<p>RoseMarie or somebody,</p>
<p>I understand how and why celebrities (both Scn and Non Scn) are sheltered, cocooned, etc.  People are depending upon them to perform. Many peoples&#8217; jobs and lives hinge on actors and other entertainers being ready, willing and able to perform well, so their handlers shield them from what they know upsets them greatly.  I get that.  I don&#8217;t agree, necessarily, but its reasonable, its understandable.  In Scientologese one would say, &#8220;I can think with that.&#8221;  Ok.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s what I DON&#8217;T for the life of me get:<br />
Bob Duggan is a billionaire BUSINESSMAN.  On the &#8220;comm lines&#8221; of the world, with his billions, n&#8217;est-ce-pas?  His communication lines have to be enormous and highly varied. So how on God&#8217;s green earth is it POSSIBLE to shield this guy, to shutter him away from the ACTUAL scene that is Scientology?  Forbid him from reading the internet?  Are ALL of his employees Scientologists?  How is this done &#8211; keeping him ignorant and believing?  I have to be missing something here!</p>
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		By: Wynski		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Dec 2019 21:12:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-economic-impact-of-scientology-on-clearwater/#comment-312874&quot;&gt;Kronomex&lt;/a&gt;.

Kronomex.  It didn&#039;t die without tax exempt status.  It&#039;ll die when enough people are educated about the criminal scam.  Loosing tax exempt status will slow it in any areas like the empty real estate but not kill it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-economic-impact-of-scientology-on-clearwater/#comment-312874">Kronomex</a>.</p>
<p>Kronomex.  It didn&#8217;t die without tax exempt status.  It&#8217;ll die when enough people are educated about the criminal scam.  Loosing tax exempt status will slow it in any areas like the empty real estate but not kill it.</p>
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		By: RoseMarie		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Dec 2019 16:39:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[They don’t care if WE believe them. They write this stuff for the Duggans and the lawyers.  Writing this kind of crap is  their “proof” that the exes and the media are lying. The brainwashed buy it like it is truly researched data.  Not!  What a weird bubble they live in. So uptone!!’n Not!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They don’t care if WE believe them. They write this stuff for the Duggans and the lawyers.  Writing this kind of crap is  their “proof” that the exes and the media are lying. The brainwashed buy it like it is truly researched data.  Not!  What a weird bubble they live in. So uptone!!’n Not!</p>
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		By: Jenyfurrr		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Dec 2019 13:37:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-economic-impact-of-scientology-on-clearwater/#comment-312829&quot;&gt;Lliira&lt;/a&gt;.

Lilira - This is an excellent point and framed against actual contributors to FL’s economy, it illustrates how there is no way what they say is true. 
Not that we here don’t recognize that fact, but clearly they’ve snowed/influenced certain Clearwater politicians into accepting and re-spouting this nonsense. Because you’ve done the comparative math in contrast, it demonstrates the degree of subterfuge. 
Thank you - for people like me, not in the area, that genuinely helps!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-economic-impact-of-scientology-on-clearwater/#comment-312829">Lliira</a>.</p>
<p>Lilira &#8211; This is an excellent point and framed against actual contributors to FL’s economy, it illustrates how there is no way what they say is true.<br />
Not that we here don’t recognize that fact, but clearly they’ve snowed/influenced certain Clearwater politicians into accepting and re-spouting this nonsense. Because you’ve done the comparative math in contrast, it demonstrates the degree of subterfuge.<br />
Thank you &#8211; for people like me, not in the area, that genuinely helps!</p>
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		By: Peter		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Dec 2019 13:04:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What can be honestly reported is simple:  &quot;Any claims of doing anything to help/benefit any person, group or activity OUTSIDE OF SCIENTOLOGY ITSELF, is a Lie!  Hubbard lied.  Miscavige lies.  Scio stats lie.  Scientologists lie to themselves.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What can be honestly reported is simple:  &#8220;Any claims of doing anything to help/benefit any person, group or activity OUTSIDE OF SCIENTOLOGY ITSELF, is a Lie!  Hubbard lied.  Miscavige lies.  Scio stats lie.  Scientologists lie to themselves.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Marty		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Dec 2019 07:39:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I walked around downtown Clearwater today after not having been there for 5 or 6 years, starting from the Starbucks on Cleveland &#038; Ft. Harrison. I was amazed at how completely dead the whole area is now. There was no one there in the middle of the afternoon on a gorgeous Saturday except a handful of people at Starbucks, a couple of people at the coffee shop across the street, and another smattering at the pizza place next door. Some construction work going on at the Clearwater Builiding and the buses drearily plodding by provided the only breaks from the silence. 

Not a soul north of Cleveland near any of the front groups&#039; offices. No traffic to speak of on the streets at all. No one anywhere around Flag except the minions going straight in and out of the building. No public  anywhere to be seen. I walked all over the area but I didn&#039;t stick around long because there&#039;s no reason to. (I was also being watched by security people who probably thought they were not being obvious, but I don&#039;t blame them... probably nothing else to do.)

The deadness of downtown actually makes the Scientology footprint seem small. I know they own half of downtown but the fact that the whole city is empty gives the feeling that they just have a little block or two of activity in a big abandoned place. Even the Flag building seemed smaller than I remembered. 

And this was all on a day when traffic was jammed in both directions with many thousands of people going out to the beach. There was no parking out there at all and it was a mob scene in all the restaurants, with such great beach weather on a holiday weekend. The contrast with Clearwater itself was amazing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I walked around downtown Clearwater today after not having been there for 5 or 6 years, starting from the Starbucks on Cleveland &amp; Ft. Harrison. I was amazed at how completely dead the whole area is now. There was no one there in the middle of the afternoon on a gorgeous Saturday except a handful of people at Starbucks, a couple of people at the coffee shop across the street, and another smattering at the pizza place next door. Some construction work going on at the Clearwater Builiding and the buses drearily plodding by provided the only breaks from the silence. </p>
<p>Not a soul north of Cleveland near any of the front groups&#8217; offices. No traffic to speak of on the streets at all. No one anywhere around Flag except the minions going straight in and out of the building. No public  anywhere to be seen. I walked all over the area but I didn&#8217;t stick around long because there&#8217;s no reason to. (I was also being watched by security people who probably thought they were not being obvious, but I don&#8217;t blame them&#8230; probably nothing else to do.)</p>
<p>The deadness of downtown actually makes the Scientology footprint seem small. I know they own half of downtown but the fact that the whole city is empty gives the feeling that they just have a little block or two of activity in a big abandoned place. Even the Flag building seemed smaller than I remembered. </p>
<p>And this was all on a day when traffic was jammed in both directions with many thousands of people going out to the beach. There was no parking out there at all and it was a mob scene in all the restaurants, with such great beach weather on a holiday weekend. The contrast with Clearwater itself was amazing.</p>
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		By: Chicken		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Dec 2019 02:34:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This election would make a great subject of a documentary. It is a unique city, dynamic and situation that would be interesting to people all over the world. Hope someone is filming it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This election would make a great subject of a documentary. It is a unique city, dynamic and situation that would be interesting to people all over the world. Hope someone is filming it.</p>
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		By: Kronomex		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Dec 2019 00:01:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If the feds had the guts to stand up to Demento and cancel the $camology tax free status the whole slowly decaying corpse would collapse into sludge within a year or so. I also expect that if it occurred the  homunculus, the cash and just about everything else he could lay his little claws on would disappear very quickly.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the feds had the guts to stand up to Demento and cancel the $camology tax free status the whole slowly decaying corpse would collapse into sludge within a year or so. I also expect that if it occurred the  homunculus, the cash and just about everything else he could lay his little claws on would disappear very quickly.</p>
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		By: JVB		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Nov 2019 23:26:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-economic-impact-of-scientology-on-clearwater/#comment-312814&quot;&gt;jere lull ( 38 years recovering)&lt;/a&gt;.

With $4.4 million active Scientologists (hah!), that comes out to less than $20 per head.  Those cheapos.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-economic-impact-of-scientology-on-clearwater/#comment-312814">jere lull ( 38 years recovering)</a>.</p>
<p>With $4.4 million active Scientologists (hah!), that comes out to less than $20 per head.  Those cheapos.</p>
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		By: JVB		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Nov 2019 23:23:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-economic-impact-of-scientology-on-clearwater/#comment-312814&quot;&gt;jere lull ( 38 years recovering)&lt;/a&gt;.

If that sum was true, and Scientology claims that there are 4.4 million active Scientologists, that is less than $20 each.  Cheapos.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-economic-impact-of-scientology-on-clearwater/#comment-312814">jere lull ( 38 years recovering)</a>.</p>
<p>If that sum was true, and Scientology claims that there are 4.4 million active Scientologists, that is less than $20 each.  Cheapos.</p>
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