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		By: Chris from Germany		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris from Germany]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Apr 2013 10:12:24 +0000</pubDate>
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	Dear &#034;Special Correspondent&#034;,



	this story is just wow!! Thanks a lot for sharing it!
	Indeed, the first thing I felt was: If he (you) only would get the chance to come over to us (Berlin, Germany), so that he would find out for himself, if Dianetics worked for him, too, or not. Of course, I understand, that you feel like not secure to get your auditing inside a CofS. But my heart feels prompted to come over and audit you - and straight up to Clear. If I could overcome the considerations (it&#180;s impossible, because...) of distance etc.
	So, I hope, you find some contact introducing you into the treasures of the real you. Whether or not you will end up in a real session on day, good luck on your journey of life!
	Chris
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>	Dear &quot;Special Correspondent&quot;,</p>
<p>	this story is just wow!! Thanks a lot for sharing it!<br />
	Indeed, the first thing I felt was: If he (you) only would get the chance to come over to us (Berlin, Germany), so that he would find out for himself, if Dianetics worked for him, too, or not. Of course, I understand, that you feel like not secure to get your auditing inside a CofS. But my heart feels prompted to come over and audit you &#8211; and straight up to Clear. If I could overcome the considerations (it&acute;s impossible, because&#8230;) of distance etc.<br />
	So, I hope, you find some contact introducing you into the treasures of the real you. Whether or not you will end up in a real session on day, good luck on your journey of life!<br />
	Chris<br />
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		By: breppen		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Apr 2013 01:08:46 +0000</pubDate>
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	I am saddened by this deeply as this amazing technology is being denied to thousands/millions by David Miscavige&#039;s psychopathic activities over the years has contracted Scn worldwide. Find independents people if you want standard delivery.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>	I am saddened by this deeply as this amazing technology is being denied to thousands/millions by David Miscavige&#039;s psychopathic activities over the years has contracted Scn worldwide. Find independents people if you want standard delivery.</p>
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		By: Mirari		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-experience-of-a-new-public/#comment-1702</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mirari]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Apr 2013 21:27:07 +0000</pubDate>
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	Scientology zero is out!
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		By: Odd Thomas		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-experience-of-a-new-public/#comment-1701</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Apr 2013 20:30:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-experience-of-a-new-public/#comment-1673&quot;&gt;Ronnie Bell&lt;/a&gt;.


	Ronnie,



	I couldn&#039;t help but chuckle - just a little- while reading your post. Not because of what you were saying, but because I was across the street at AOLA at the same time, getting the same state invalidated, while thinking, &#034;why is no one listening to me, or even pretending to listen to me?&#034;



	I spent 3 intensives and over $15,000 trying to resolve this. When it was over, I realized that most of my definitions within SCN were outdated. Communication, no longer meant an exchange of ideas, with attention and intention for duplication to occur&#160;on both sides. It had devolved into, &#034;do what I say.&#034;



	ARC and compassion, was simply replaced with command intention.&#160;For within command intention lay all the answers one really needed. That is, &#034;do what I say.&#034;



	The list went on and though I completed my OT V and had my wins despite the constant chatter and distractions within the Org, I still walked away feeling dismayed. Like&#160;that Tourist who flies into London, hails a taxi and 800 pounds&#160;and five hours later, arrives at his hotel after what was supposed to be a thirty minute ride!&#160;



	Clear and other states were challenged then and now for one reason and one reason only - money. Trying to look for or get your head around any technical reason for this, drives one mad, because there are no technical reasons. Can you imagine UCLA or USC invalidating&#160;their degrees 10 or 20 years after&#160;the fact, claiming, not that you missed some credits or courses, but that those two &#034;A&#034; grades you got were really an &#034;F&#034; because &#034;they&#034; changed&#160;the requirements! It would never happen. But in SCN, we accepted nonsensical changes&#160;as gospel because no one else was delivering SCN.



	That&#039;s changing now and Corp SCN will begin its final descent soon into the abyss - sad but true.



	&#160;
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-experience-of-a-new-public/#comment-1673">Ronnie Bell</a>.</p>
<p>	Ronnie,</p>
<p>	I couldn&#039;t help but chuckle &#8211; just a little- while reading your post. Not because of what you were saying, but because I was across the street at AOLA at the same time, getting the same state invalidated, while thinking, &quot;why is no one listening to me, or even pretending to listen to me?&quot;</p>
<p>	I spent 3 intensives and over $15,000 trying to resolve this. When it was over, I realized that most of my definitions within SCN were outdated. Communication, no longer meant an exchange of ideas, with attention and intention for duplication to occur&nbsp;on both sides. It had devolved into, &quot;do what I say.&quot;</p>
<p>	ARC and compassion, was simply replaced with command intention.&nbsp;For within command intention lay all the answers one really needed. That is, &quot;do what I say.&quot;</p>
<p>	The list went on and though I completed my OT V and had my wins despite the constant chatter and distractions within the Org, I still walked away feeling dismayed. Like&nbsp;that Tourist who flies into London, hails a taxi and 800 pounds&nbsp;and five hours later, arrives at his hotel after what was supposed to be a thirty minute ride!&nbsp;</p>
<p>	Clear and other states were challenged then and now for one reason and one reason only &#8211; money. Trying to look for or get your head around any technical reason for this, drives one mad, because there are no technical reasons. Can you imagine UCLA or USC invalidating&nbsp;their degrees 10 or 20 years after&nbsp;the fact, claiming, not that you missed some credits or courses, but that those two &quot;A&quot; grades you got were really an &quot;F&quot; because &quot;they&quot; changed&nbsp;the requirements! It would never happen. But in SCN, we accepted nonsensical changes&nbsp;as gospel because no one else was delivering SCN.</p>
<p>	That&#039;s changing now and Corp SCN will begin its final descent soon into the abyss &#8211; sad but true.</p>
<p>	&nbsp;</p>
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		By: Thoughtful		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Apr 2013 15:14:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-experience-of-a-new-public/#comment-1691&quot;&gt;David Cooke&lt;/a&gt;.


	Yeah, I thought of that film because the lady wanders around a creepy abandoned carnival and nobody is there. Someone shows up, but wanders away without saying anything. Finally you realize in the end they&#039;re all ghosts.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-experience-of-a-new-public/#comment-1691">David Cooke</a>.</p>
<p>	Yeah, I thought of that film because the lady wanders around a creepy abandoned carnival and nobody is there. Someone shows up, but wanders away without saying anything. Finally you realize in the end they&#039;re all ghosts.</p>
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		By: Mike Rinder		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-experience-of-a-new-public/#comment-1699</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Rinder]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Apr 2013 14:55:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-experience-of-a-new-public/#comment-1695&quot;&gt;Dave Fagen&lt;/a&gt;.

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	Dave -- I agree with you 100%.  See my response to Eric&#039;s comment I just posted.
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	Dave &#8212; I agree with you 100%.  See my response to Eric&#8217;s comment I just posted.</p>
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		By: Mike Rinder		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Rinder]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Apr 2013 14:54:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-experience-of-a-new-public/#comment-1697&quot;&gt;Eric Alexandrou&lt;/a&gt;.

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	Thanks Eric. I agree with you. Staff everywhere are generally incredibly decent, honest, caring people who are sacrificing their own pleasure, free time, income and a lot of other things in order to do what they believe is right. It&#039;s very difficult to shake the purpose line of people like this, so its hard to get them to see what is really happening. Part of the reason they dedicate themselves so wholeheartedly is they see the world is a mess and it needs help. ANd part of the mess are the &quot;naysayers&quot; and &quot;critics&quot; and they have a &quot;cross to bear&quot; to deal with that sort of thing and they are sure they cannot allow it to derail them from their purpose. It&#039;s almost a Catch 22. The more the irrationalities are pointed out to them, the more it convinced them they have to keep doing what they are doing....
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-experience-of-a-new-public/#comment-1697">Eric Alexandrou</a>.</p>
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	Thanks Eric. I agree with you. Staff everywhere are generally incredibly decent, honest, caring people who are sacrificing their own pleasure, free time, income and a lot of other things in order to do what they believe is right. It&#8217;s very difficult to shake the purpose line of people like this, so its hard to get them to see what is really happening. Part of the reason they dedicate themselves so wholeheartedly is they see the world is a mess and it needs help. ANd part of the mess are the &#8220;naysayers&#8221; and &#8220;critics&#8221; and they have a &#8220;cross to bear&#8221; to deal with that sort of thing and they are sure they cannot allow it to derail them from their purpose. It&#8217;s almost a Catch 22. The more the irrationalities are pointed out to them, the more it convinced them they have to keep doing what they are doing&#8230;.</p>
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		By: Eric Alexandrou		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eric Alexandrou]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Apr 2013 13:26:16 +0000</pubDate>
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	Dear mike,I would like to add that the staff the staff ,and ex staff at the Brisbane org ,are the best people you could possibly meet,to me are true frends and mean well,a couple that where higher up,knew when the I A S came to town not to support them,and to only support Brisbane org,when I got phone calls from the I A S,near the end I would say it straight out,no I want to support Brisbane org,mike it&#039;s damme hard to wake up,I feel for them,but when your gut instinct ,tells you some thing is fucked up big time,well 9 out of 10 you right.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>	Dear mike,I would like to add that the staff the staff ,and ex staff at the Brisbane org ,are the best people you could possibly meet,to me are true frends and mean well,a couple that where higher up,knew when the I A S came to town not to support them,and to only support Brisbane org,when I got phone calls from the I A S,near the end I would say it straight out,no I want to support Brisbane org,mike it&#039;s damme hard to wake up,I feel for them,but when your gut instinct ,tells you some thing is fucked up big time,well 9 out of 10 you right.</p>
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		By: SadStateofAffairs		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Apr 2013 13:03:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-experience-of-a-new-public/#comment-1687&quot;&gt;Aquamarine&lt;/a&gt;.


	Actually, were somone to take on the task, it would be interesting to juxtapose the Shermanspeak uber self-praising false propaganda of unimaginable superexpansion at ever accelerating rates beyond imagination with reality in the form of images of empty orgs and weird fundraising events.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-experience-of-a-new-public/#comment-1687">Aquamarine</a>.</p>
<p>	Actually, were somone to take on the task, it would be interesting to juxtapose the Shermanspeak uber self-praising false propaganda of unimaginable superexpansion at ever accelerating rates beyond imagination with reality in the form of images of empty orgs and weird fundraising events.</p>
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		By: Dave Fagen		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave Fagen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Apr 2013 12:35:15 +0000</pubDate>
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	When I think about orgs far away from where I am, such as orgs in Australia like Adelaide, Perth, ACT, etc, I think of the many friends that I have had from those orgs who were on staff there and were on training at Flag with me at various times.



	All of them were there because they wanted to dedicate their lives to helping others with the tech. The long distance traveled to arrive to Flag, the years at a time away from their homes, friends and families, the long hours, the getting beat over the head to learn the tech, getting yelled at without being allowed to stand up for themselves, the persistence in continuing to go back in there and learn it better and the victories they had in succeeding to whatever degree in getting their tech down and helping someone with the tech, despite so many losses on the way.



	So what did they do all that for if their Div 6 can&#039;t even deal with an interested public who is ASKING for their services, all aside from the fact that the C of S with it&#039;s inhumane practices has become one of the most despised organizations on the planet?



	I long for the day when more of the guys I trained with wake up and join me on the other side.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>	When I think about orgs far away from where I am, such as orgs in Australia like Adelaide, Perth, ACT, etc, I think of the many friends that I have had from those orgs who were on staff there and were on training at Flag with me at various times.</p>
<p>	All of them were there because they wanted to dedicate their lives to helping others with the tech. The long distance traveled to arrive to Flag, the years at a time away from their homes, friends and families, the long hours, the getting beat over the head to learn the tech, getting yelled at without being allowed to stand up for themselves, the persistence in continuing to go back in there and learn it better and the victories they had in succeeding to whatever degree in getting their tech down and helping someone with the tech, despite so many losses on the way.</p>
<p>	So what did they do all that for if their Div 6 can&#039;t even deal with an interested public who is ASKING for their services, all aside from the fact that the C of S with it&#039;s inhumane practices has become one of the most despised organizations on the planet?</p>
<p>	I long for the day when more of the guys I trained with wake up and join me on the other side.</p>
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