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		By: Rick		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-failed-scientology-mission-network/#comment-445767</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Dec 2021 01:45:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-failed-scientology-mission-network/#comment-402485&quot;&gt;Lawrence&lt;/a&gt;.

Any info on the Teaneck org? I visited it several times when I was about 20 years old. Seemed to be doing well. Then they moved at some point to Hawthorne NJ and closed shortly after that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-failed-scientology-mission-network/#comment-402485">Lawrence</a>.</p>
<p>Any info on the Teaneck org? I visited it several times when I was about 20 years old. Seemed to be doing well. Then they moved at some point to Hawthorne NJ and closed shortly after that.</p>
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		By: Cindy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2021 22:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-failed-scientology-mission-network/#comment-404065&quot;&gt;NNGrad&lt;/a&gt;.

Is Phil still selling Narconon to the parents of drug addicts who want their kids off drugs?  He was doing that back in early 2000 or earlier.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-failed-scientology-mission-network/#comment-404065">NNGrad</a>.</p>
<p>Is Phil still selling Narconon to the parents of drug addicts who want their kids off drugs?  He was doing that back in early 2000 or earlier.</p>
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		By: NNGrad		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[NNGrad]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2021 06:58:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-failed-scientology-mission-network/#comment-402622&quot;&gt;Cindy&lt;/a&gt;.

She can&#039;t go to a Narconon Facility because of bad PR matters but for sure OSA ask for Narconon international to cordinate a top secret private handling with network staff like Medal Winner (OT VII) Bobby Wiggins or Class VIII (OTVIII) Phil Embick]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-failed-scientology-mission-network/#comment-402622">Cindy</a>.</p>
<p>She can&#8217;t go to a Narconon Facility because of bad PR matters but for sure OSA ask for Narconon international to cordinate a top secret private handling with network staff like Medal Winner (OT VII) Bobby Wiggins or Class VIII (OTVIII) Phil Embick</p>
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		By: Shawn		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-failed-scientology-mission-network/#comment-402772</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Shawn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2021 19:35:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-failed-scientology-mission-network/#comment-402611&quot;&gt;Dwarf Vader&lt;/a&gt;.

EST ( now Landmark) is still operational in some cities as well.  Just the name change to protect income.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-failed-scientology-mission-network/#comment-402611">Dwarf Vader</a>.</p>
<p>EST ( now Landmark) is still operational in some cities as well.  Just the name change to protect income.</p>
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		By: JillBoone		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2021 18:59:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I worked for the Palo Alto Mission and left after the Financial Police and all the strange events of the 80&#039;s took place. And then I left Scientology. 

I just googled to see if the mission even exists and it looks like the Feshbacks started one again in 96 that no long exists. And there is only an org in Mountain View, no missions. 

As strange as that time was, I&#039;m so grateful that it was the beginning of my exit. 

So where is this Foothills Mission that the poster is from? (I thought Bay Area at first, but there are foothills everywhere).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I worked for the Palo Alto Mission and left after the Financial Police and all the strange events of the 80&#8217;s took place. And then I left Scientology. </p>
<p>I just googled to see if the mission even exists and it looks like the Feshbacks started one again in 96 that no long exists. And there is only an org in Mountain View, no missions. </p>
<p>As strange as that time was, I&#8217;m so grateful that it was the beginning of my exit. </p>
<p>So where is this Foothills Mission that the poster is from? (I thought Bay Area at first, but there are foothills everywhere).</p>
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		By: Real		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-failed-scientology-mission-network/#comment-402758</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Real]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2021 17:25:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The insane eat their own and thus snuff themselves out of existence.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The insane eat their own and thus snuff themselves out of existence.</p>
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		By: Shawn		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Shawn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2021 16:01:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-failed-scientology-mission-network/#comment-402650&quot;&gt;PeaceMaker&lt;/a&gt;.

In policy and his books,, Hubbard said both that he was Source, and that nobody really ever discovered anything.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-failed-scientology-mission-network/#comment-402650">PeaceMaker</a>.</p>
<p>In policy and his books,, Hubbard said both that he was Source, and that nobody really ever discovered anything.</p>
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		By: Shawn		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-failed-scientology-mission-network/#comment-402736</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Shawn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2021 15:52:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-failed-scientology-mission-network/#comment-402460&quot;&gt;PeaceMaker&lt;/a&gt;.

Where is your post at?   As a former Riverside Mission Staff 76 -78, having been recruited for a G.O. Mission that I messed up, which may have caused the Org Mission Sec Check of all the staff that soon followed.  At that time Bent offered me up to the OP-Z recruitment Flag Mission happening in LA and I was gone overnight to LA, and later to Flag.   I had taken a loan at the Credit Union which I had to borrow money to pay back before I left. 

  Staff were regged for services to boost the GI on a regular basis until the CU was taken over by some legal financial entity.   The assets were seized and some type of legal battle was started.

The Swiss accounts of the Riverside Mission were not general knowledge, but at times Mark Lutofski, the Treasury Sec would yell something in the Treasury office without checking to see if someone else was there.

Peacemaker: Was the operation of the CU returned to the control of Mark and the Mission chosen Board of Directors?

While I wouldn&#039;t put it past someone in Treasury to take out a CU loan to cover payroll while waiting for a Reg payment to clear, I did not hear of anyone doing that on a person to person basis.  Of course DR was the acknowledged deep throat, but as I recall he was blown before I left.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-failed-scientology-mission-network/#comment-402460">PeaceMaker</a>.</p>
<p>Where is your post at?   As a former Riverside Mission Staff 76 -78, having been recruited for a G.O. Mission that I messed up, which may have caused the Org Mission Sec Check of all the staff that soon followed.  At that time Bent offered me up to the OP-Z recruitment Flag Mission happening in LA and I was gone overnight to LA, and later to Flag.   I had taken a loan at the Credit Union which I had to borrow money to pay back before I left. </p>
<p>  Staff were regged for services to boost the GI on a regular basis until the CU was taken over by some legal financial entity.   The assets were seized and some type of legal battle was started.</p>
<p>The Swiss accounts of the Riverside Mission were not general knowledge, but at times Mark Lutofski, the Treasury Sec would yell something in the Treasury office without checking to see if someone else was there.</p>
<p>Peacemaker: Was the operation of the CU returned to the control of Mark and the Mission chosen Board of Directors?</p>
<p>While I wouldn&#8217;t put it past someone in Treasury to take out a CU loan to cover payroll while waiting for a Reg payment to clear, I did not hear of anyone doing that on a person to person basis.  Of course DR was the acknowledged deep throat, but as I recall he was blown before I left.</p>
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		By: Richard		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2021 12:41:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-failed-scientology-mission-network/#comment-402650&quot;&gt;PeaceMaker&lt;/a&gt;.

PeaceMaker - Regardless of Hubbard&#039;s own sources, if a splinter group was using books, lectures and course materials with Hubbard&#039;s name on them I guess he could sue them. The purpose was not to win but to put the competition out of business through costly litigation. Competition for Scientology customers would not be a factor today now that the overall picture is known.

Just as an aside and without defending Hubbard/Scn, if I spent most of my adult life developing some type of &quot;therapy&quot; (or scam as the case might be) I wouldn&#039;t be happy of someone came along using the same materials and went into competition with me.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-failed-scientology-mission-network/#comment-402650">PeaceMaker</a>.</p>
<p>PeaceMaker &#8211; Regardless of Hubbard&#8217;s own sources, if a splinter group was using books, lectures and course materials with Hubbard&#8217;s name on them I guess he could sue them. The purpose was not to win but to put the competition out of business through costly litigation. Competition for Scientology customers would not be a factor today now that the overall picture is known.</p>
<p>Just as an aside and without defending Hubbard/Scn, if I spent most of my adult life developing some type of &#8220;therapy&#8221; (or scam as the case might be) I wouldn&#8217;t be happy of someone came along using the same materials and went into competition with me.</p>
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		By: Lawrence		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-failed-scientology-mission-network/#comment-402671</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lawrence]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2021 03:08:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-failed-scientology-mission-network/#comment-402654&quot;&gt;PeaceMaker&lt;/a&gt;.

Of course not. Who is going to go there and come out with a story for the world of how fantastic Scientology is?

If Scientology was so true and so fantastic, I would be there right now maybe with you and we would be co-auditing each other. The religion would not boil down to Charter Missions (i.e. missions that &quot;exist&quot; on paper but have no staff, no academy, no HGC, no C/S). Just a space affiliated with Scientology.

Being around forever does not mean that I am willing to work 120 hours a week for less than $0.10 per hour with no sleep.

The biggest win I ever had in life, was not from doing OT levels. It was realizing how corrupt Scientology is.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-failed-scientology-mission-network/#comment-402654">PeaceMaker</a>.</p>
<p>Of course not. Who is going to go there and come out with a story for the world of how fantastic Scientology is?</p>
<p>If Scientology was so true and so fantastic, I would be there right now maybe with you and we would be co-auditing each other. The religion would not boil down to Charter Missions (i.e. missions that &#8220;exist&#8221; on paper but have no staff, no academy, no HGC, no C/S). Just a space affiliated with Scientology.</p>
<p>Being around forever does not mean that I am willing to work 120 hours a week for less than $0.10 per hour with no sleep.</p>
<p>The biggest win I ever had in life, was not from doing OT levels. It was realizing how corrupt Scientology is.</p>
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