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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-final-world-class-ideal-org/#comment-218079</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2018 18:13:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-final-world-class-ideal-org/#comment-218041&quot;&gt;PeaceMaker&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;...accounts that some orgs in high-traffic locations are simply keeping their closed and locked anyway.&quot;

PM,
As regards the behavior of our favorite cult in its death-throes, just when you think it can&#039;t get MORE Orwellian...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-final-world-class-ideal-org/#comment-218041">PeaceMaker</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;accounts that some orgs in high-traffic locations are simply keeping their closed and locked anyway.&#8221;</p>
<p>PM,<br />
As regards the behavior of our favorite cult in its death-throes, just when you think it can&#8217;t get MORE Orwellian&#8230;</p>
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		By: PeaceMaker		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-final-world-class-ideal-org/#comment-218041</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2018 13:20:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-final-world-class-ideal-org/#comment-218024&quot;&gt;Aquamarine&lt;/a&gt;.

I forgot to mention accounts that some orgs in high-traffic locations are simply keeping their doors closed and locked, anyway.  I know that&#039;s been said of at least one UK org, and that I&#039;ve noticed in photographs that another used to frequently open doors on to a lobby filled with pamphlets, but no longer does.  I believe a lot of that started to change around the time of the Anonymous protests of a decade ago.  I get the impression that orgs are attempt &quot;body routing&quot; much less frequently than they used to, though they still take a stab at it sometimes.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-final-world-class-ideal-org/#comment-218024">Aquamarine</a>.</p>
<p>I forgot to mention accounts that some orgs in high-traffic locations are simply keeping their doors closed and locked, anyway.  I know that&#8217;s been said of at least one UK org, and that I&#8217;ve noticed in photographs that another used to frequently open doors on to a lobby filled with pamphlets, but no longer does.  I believe a lot of that started to change around the time of the Anonymous protests of a decade ago.  I get the impression that orgs are attempt &#8220;body routing&#8221; much less frequently than they used to, though they still take a stab at it sometimes.</p>
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		By: Rip Van Winkle		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rip Van Winkle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2018 13:03:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-final-world-class-ideal-org/#comment-218006&quot;&gt;PeaceMaker&lt;/a&gt;.

This was in the late 70&#039;s.  I wasn&#039;t in on the history of how BIC came to be or when.  It seemed like we were supposed to have just followed policy and expanded to make enough money to buy a building eventually, but then were &quot;saved by the SO and BIC&quot; because we had just been lucky enough to find a great building that was too good to pass up so the good old SO came to our rescue.   

We were supposed to be grateful and very mindful of what we owed.

Who knows what the real story was behind any of it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-final-world-class-ideal-org/#comment-218006">PeaceMaker</a>.</p>
<p>This was in the late 70&#8217;s.  I wasn&#8217;t in on the history of how BIC came to be or when.  It seemed like we were supposed to have just followed policy and expanded to make enough money to buy a building eventually, but then were &#8220;saved by the SO and BIC&#8221; because we had just been lucky enough to find a great building that was too good to pass up so the good old SO came to our rescue.   </p>
<p>We were supposed to be grateful and very mindful of what we owed.</p>
<p>Who knows what the real story was behind any of it.</p>
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		By: Rip Van Winkle		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rip Van Winkle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2018 12:55:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-final-world-class-ideal-org/#comment-218013&quot;&gt;Cece&lt;/a&gt;.

yesss..thank you.  And if I&#039;da been on that FP I would have bitched about it too.  KRs with carbon copies and copious LRH references.  ... and probably end up with a new round of my own gory goldenrod.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-final-world-class-ideal-org/#comment-218013">Cece</a>.</p>
<p>yesss..thank you.  And if I&#8217;da been on that FP I would have bitched about it too.  KRs with carbon copies and copious LRH references.  &#8230; and probably end up with a new round of my own gory goldenrod.</p>
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		By: Rip Van Winkle		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rip Van Winkle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2018 12:48:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-final-world-class-ideal-org/#comment-218027&quot;&gt;Aquamarine&lt;/a&gt;.

...I shake my head at how opposite things are ... in Scn we thought we were the free ones, we were going free, we had the ability to communicate, we had the confront, we had the truth, the workable tech, the most ethical, the only true justice system, ...on and on... 

billion year contracts of slavery to a job peddling go-nowhere fantasy, defended with corrupt lies and criminal tactics, cut off from all family and erstwhile friends.  Cut off not only from the reality of the real world, but what is truly happening in any org other than our own.

now there&#039;s a group to raise our glass to....(to burn in Hell maybe)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-final-world-class-ideal-org/#comment-218027">Aquamarine</a>.</p>
<p>&#8230;I shake my head at how opposite things are &#8230; in Scn we thought we were the free ones, we were going free, we had the ability to communicate, we had the confront, we had the truth, the workable tech, the most ethical, the only true justice system, &#8230;on and on&#8230; </p>
<p>billion year contracts of slavery to a job peddling go-nowhere fantasy, defended with corrupt lies and criminal tactics, cut off from all family and erstwhile friends.  Cut off not only from the reality of the real world, but what is truly happening in any org other than our own.</p>
<p>now there&#8217;s a group to raise our glass to&#8230;.(to burn in Hell maybe)</p>
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		By: Chee Chalker		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2018 11:31:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-final-world-class-ideal-org/#comment-218012&quot;&gt;Cece&lt;/a&gt;.

I can’t figure out how to upload them to this comment board
Any ideas?<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/263a.png" alt="☺" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />  I’m helpless with this technology  stuff !]]></description>
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<p>I can’t figure out how to upload them to this comment board<br />
Any ideas?☺️  I’m helpless with this technology  stuff !</p>
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		By: Chee Chalker		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chee Chalker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2018 11:29:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-final-world-class-ideal-org/#comment-217993&quot;&gt;omegapaladin&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi omega
The current Chicago Org is on Lincoln, just south of Belmont.
The ‘soon to be’ ideal org is on the 600 block of south Clark
If you want a chuckle, drive past the Clark St location.  It’s a crumbling eyesore.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-final-world-class-ideal-org/#comment-217993">omegapaladin</a>.</p>
<p>Hi omega<br />
The current Chicago Org is on Lincoln, just south of Belmont.<br />
The ‘soon to be’ ideal org is on the 600 block of south Clark<br />
If you want a chuckle, drive past the Clark St location.  It’s a crumbling eyesore.</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-final-world-class-ideal-org/#comment-218028</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aquamarine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2018 05:11:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-final-world-class-ideal-org/#comment-218027&quot;&gt;Aquamarine&lt;/a&gt;.

Edit: &quot;...a low ABILITY (not &quot;inability&quot;)  to confront.&quot;  Wow, I&#039;m on a soapbox today about this.  Very emotional.  But this blog is a great place to vent, during such times, thanks to Mike :)  And I think I&#039;ve got it all out of my system now :)  Was just gripped by this ANGER at the Still Ins. Ok, les rants, c&#039;est finis!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-final-world-class-ideal-org/#comment-218027">Aquamarine</a>.</p>
<p>Edit: &#8220;&#8230;a low ABILITY (not &#8220;inability&#8221;)  to confront.&#8221;  Wow, I&#8217;m on a soapbox today about this.  Very emotional.  But this blog is a great place to vent, during such times, thanks to Mike 🙂  And I think I&#8217;ve got it all out of my system now 🙂  Was just gripped by this ANGER at the Still Ins. Ok, les rants, c&#8217;est finis!</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aquamarine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2018 05:01:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-final-world-class-ideal-org/#comment-218010&quot;&gt;Old Surfer Dude&lt;/a&gt;.

True.  

They BELIEVE that they have this VERY high ability to confront.  They&#039;ll TELL you this.  They also believe that non-Scientologists have very LOW abilities to confront. They also believe that anyone who doesn&#039;t agree with them has a low inability to confront.

 Its amazing, its marvelous, how  deluded these people actually are! 

What can I say - they&#039;re just nuts! Like people in an asylum.  That&#039;s my viewpoint of the Still Ins today.  Sorry to say.  Mental patients in Miscavige&#039;s asylum.

But the still ins are worse than most mental patients because most people in institutions KNOW that they&#039;re to some degree nuts. They have that degree of awareness, whereas the Still Ins would have to come UP, awareness wise, to realize how insane they actually  are.

Realizing that they&#039;re nuts would be a good goal for them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-final-world-class-ideal-org/#comment-218010">Old Surfer Dude</a>.</p>
<p>True.  </p>
<p>They BELIEVE that they have this VERY high ability to confront.  They&#8217;ll TELL you this.  They also believe that non-Scientologists have very LOW abilities to confront. They also believe that anyone who doesn&#8217;t agree with them has a low inability to confront.</p>
<p> Its amazing, its marvelous, how  deluded these people actually are! </p>
<p>What can I say &#8211; they&#8217;re just nuts! Like people in an asylum.  That&#8217;s my viewpoint of the Still Ins today.  Sorry to say.  Mental patients in Miscavige&#8217;s asylum.</p>
<p>But the still ins are worse than most mental patients because most people in institutions KNOW that they&#8217;re to some degree nuts. They have that degree of awareness, whereas the Still Ins would have to come UP, awareness wise, to realize how insane they actually  are.</p>
<p>Realizing that they&#8217;re nuts would be a good goal for them.</p>
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		By: WhatAreYourCrimes		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2018 04:50:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-final-world-class-ideal-org/#comment-217986&quot;&gt;Angry Gay Pope&lt;/a&gt;.

AGP, whenever I want a laugh I go to that vid where you single-handedly disperse a crowd of scientologists celebrating how they are &quot;dauntless and defiant&quot;.  The irony!!  Regardless of any dispute you have with TO, that vid just crackles with epicness.]]></description>
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<p>AGP, whenever I want a laugh I go to that vid where you single-handedly disperse a crowd of scientologists celebrating how they are &#8220;dauntless and defiant&#8221;.  The irony!!  Regardless of any dispute you have with TO, that vid just crackles with epicness.</p>
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