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		By: Pepper		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-mission-network-more-lies-exposed/#comment-69463</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pepper]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2014 00:21:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-mission-network-more-lies-exposed/#comment-69224&quot;&gt;NOLAGirl&lt;/a&gt;.

NO mission deader than all the cemeteries...

But frequented by fundraising vampires I would imagine.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-mission-network-more-lies-exposed/#comment-69224">NOLAGirl</a>.</p>
<p>NO mission deader than all the cemeteries&#8230;</p>
<p>But frequented by fundraising vampires I would imagine.</p>
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		By: MJ		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-mission-network-more-lies-exposed/#comment-69361</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MJ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2014 14:05:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-mission-network-more-lies-exposed/#comment-69350&quot;&gt;Foolproof&lt;/a&gt;.

Can&#039;t have a mission without Dave&#039;s permission.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-mission-network-more-lies-exposed/#comment-69350">Foolproof</a>.</p>
<p>Can&#8217;t have a mission without Dave&#8217;s permission.</p>
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		By: Chuck Beatty		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chuck Beatty]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2014 12:39:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Only ex Sea Org staff who worked with the real stats know how important this is as valid raw info.

This is valid raw info.

I was on the stats evolution volunteer for several years in the 1980s.   

This looks totally valid legit raw info.

382 total missions in the owrld.

That is staggering bad news raw info.

Staggering raw bad news.

I think the prior &quot;high&quot; totals for missions got to be over 600, so this is 200 missions lower than previous &quot;high&quot; totals for number of missions worldwide.

And the number of these like Mat Pesch writes in the comments on this or the other recent blog, are correct, many dozens of these missions are just on paper, and from an OEC viewpoint of policy, these missions are NOT real missions but really at best &quot;Field Groups&quot; and some are just none existent, as shown by these stats.

THis is just excellent excellent raw legit data.

Very important raw posting, thankyou to the provider of this info.

I wish a new ex HGB stats branch staff member would defect.

Some years ago the former INCOMM Data Bu and later FB Data Bu person Marie defected and gave excellent history of the Data bu stats history.   

I&#039;d love to hear from Karen Hvass, a long term programs bureau person who could really legitimately brief the outside world on what the inside world of Scientology real statistics are for these last 30 years.

Curt Hahn and Karen Hvass, I hope they surface and go public.   I think they have to quit first.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only ex Sea Org staff who worked with the real stats know how important this is as valid raw info.</p>
<p>This is valid raw info.</p>
<p>I was on the stats evolution volunteer for several years in the 1980s.   </p>
<p>This looks totally valid legit raw info.</p>
<p>382 total missions in the owrld.</p>
<p>That is staggering bad news raw info.</p>
<p>Staggering raw bad news.</p>
<p>I think the prior &#8220;high&#8221; totals for missions got to be over 600, so this is 200 missions lower than previous &#8220;high&#8221; totals for number of missions worldwide.</p>
<p>And the number of these like Mat Pesch writes in the comments on this or the other recent blog, are correct, many dozens of these missions are just on paper, and from an OEC viewpoint of policy, these missions are NOT real missions but really at best &#8220;Field Groups&#8221; and some are just none existent, as shown by these stats.</p>
<p>THis is just excellent excellent raw legit data.</p>
<p>Very important raw posting, thankyou to the provider of this info.</p>
<p>I wish a new ex HGB stats branch staff member would defect.</p>
<p>Some years ago the former INCOMM Data Bu and later FB Data Bu person Marie defected and gave excellent history of the Data bu stats history.   </p>
<p>I&#8217;d love to hear from Karen Hvass, a long term programs bureau person who could really legitimately brief the outside world on what the inside world of Scientology real statistics are for these last 30 years.</p>
<p>Curt Hahn and Karen Hvass, I hope they surface and go public.   I think they have to quit first.</p>
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		By: Jose Chung		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jose Chung]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2014 12:31:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Redlands Mission went Belly Up years ago.  Now a car parts and expansion unit of New car
 lot across the street. Drive for another 45 minutes and your at Int.Base.(another ghost town)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Redlands Mission went Belly Up years ago.  Now a car parts and expansion unit of New car<br />
 lot across the street. Drive for another 45 minutes and your at Int.Base.(another ghost town)</p>
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		By: enccas		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-mission-network-more-lies-exposed/#comment-69358</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[enccas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2014 11:56:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[On ANZO, the following is a brief summary from the SMI stats: 
1. CAPITAL        837
2. TAICHUNG       784
3. TAIPEI         745
4. TAINAN         705
5. FU-HSING EXCLBR	652
6. TAO-YUAN       629
7. DA AN          599
8. HSI-AN         591
9. CHIA YI        525
13. HUA-LIAN       361
16. SINYI          315
19. FENG YUANG     219
20. DONG-CHI       169
21. YUNG KANG      152
24. CHANG HUA       60
26. HSINCHU	0
(Taiwan: 16)

10. AKASAKA        466
11. HONGO          465
14. SETAGAYA       345
18. NAGANO         267
23. SHIBUYA         97
25. HAMAMATSU        6
(Japan: 6)

12. MANILA         403
(Philippines: 1)

15. BANGKOK        317
(Thailand: 1)

17. LEICHHARDT     305
(Australia: 1)

22. NEPAL          136
(Nepal: 1)

To be honest, AOSH ANZO and ideal orgs in that area only survive because of public from Taiwan and Japan. By the way, there used to be a Hong Kong mission but has now disappeared.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On ANZO, the following is a brief summary from the SMI stats:<br />
1. CAPITAL        837<br />
2. TAICHUNG       784<br />
3. TAIPEI         745<br />
4. TAINAN         705<br />
5. FU-HSING EXCLBR	652<br />
6. TAO-YUAN       629<br />
7. DA AN          599<br />
8. HSI-AN         591<br />
9. CHIA YI        525<br />
13. HUA-LIAN       361<br />
16. SINYI          315<br />
19. FENG YUANG     219<br />
20. DONG-CHI       169<br />
21. YUNG KANG      152<br />
24. CHANG HUA       60<br />
26. HSINCHU	0<br />
(Taiwan: 16)</p>
<p>10. AKASAKA        466<br />
11. HONGO          465<br />
14. SETAGAYA       345<br />
18. NAGANO         267<br />
23. SHIBUYA         97<br />
25. HAMAMATSU        6<br />
(Japan: 6)</p>
<p>12. MANILA         403<br />
(Philippines: 1)</p>
<p>15. BANGKOK        317<br />
(Thailand: 1)</p>
<p>17. LEICHHARDT     305<br />
(Australia: 1)</p>
<p>22. NEPAL          136<br />
(Nepal: 1)</p>
<p>To be honest, AOSH ANZO and ideal orgs in that area only survive because of public from Taiwan and Japan. By the way, there used to be a Hong Kong mission but has now disappeared.</p>
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		By: Schorsch		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Schorsch]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2014 11:45:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Before David Miscavige and the Mission Holder Conference (was it 82?) Missions I knew did not want to send their public into our Org as we had been to much of a cult with too much cult think. Therefore Missions had usually the top public like company managers or owners and the crap had been sent to the Orgs. It had been justified that the Org is too dirty.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Before David Miscavige and the Mission Holder Conference (was it 82?) Missions I knew did not want to send their public into our Org as we had been to much of a cult with too much cult think. Therefore Missions had usually the top public like company managers or owners and the crap had been sent to the Orgs. It had been justified that the Org is too dirty.</p>
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		By: Martin Padfield		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Martin Padfield]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2014 08:57:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-mission-network-more-lies-exposed/#comment-69310&quot;&gt;Sid Snakey&lt;/a&gt;.

Hilarious! (I will send you a telegram by way of congratulation)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-mission-network-more-lies-exposed/#comment-69310">Sid Snakey</a>.</p>
<p>Hilarious! (I will send you a telegram by way of congratulation)</p>
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		By: Martin Padfield		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Martin Padfield]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2014 08:31:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-mission-network-more-lies-exposed/#comment-69303&quot;&gt;LDW&lt;/a&gt;.

That&#039;s a really good point. If the Church had to &quot;prove&quot; their massive hyper-galactic expansion in court that would be fun. Wonder how that would go down with the faithful.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-mission-network-more-lies-exposed/#comment-69303">LDW</a>.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a really good point. If the Church had to &#8220;prove&#8221; their massive hyper-galactic expansion in court that would be fun. Wonder how that would go down with the faithful.</p>
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		By: Orc Bored		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Orc Bored]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2014 08:08:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-mission-network-more-lies-exposed/#comment-69303&quot;&gt;LDW&lt;/a&gt;.

Donations do not represent a contractual agreement, no promise is given in exchange for consideration.
Services however, could be covered by contract law, there is point there.

In Australia this &#039;alliance&#039; idle org shebang could get caught on the state of registration of the &#039;charity&#039;.
If it&#039;s registered in NSW it cannot go over to WA to hold fundraisers even if it&#039;s for Perth org because the activity is only allowed in the state in which it is registered.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-mission-network-more-lies-exposed/#comment-69303">LDW</a>.</p>
<p>Donations do not represent a contractual agreement, no promise is given in exchange for consideration.<br />
Services however, could be covered by contract law, there is point there.</p>
<p>In Australia this &#8216;alliance&#8217; idle org shebang could get caught on the state of registration of the &#8216;charity&#8217;.<br />
If it&#8217;s registered in NSW it cannot go over to WA to hold fundraisers even if it&#8217;s for Perth org because the activity is only allowed in the state in which it is registered.</p>
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		By: I Yawnalot		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[I Yawnalot]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2014 06:25:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-mission-network-more-lies-exposed/#comment-69341&quot;&gt;Aquamarine&lt;/a&gt;.

I&#039;ll drink to that Aquamarine.
Cheers and happy thanksgiving to all those in the cyber universe who can tell the difference between truth from fiction.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-mission-network-more-lies-exposed/#comment-69341">Aquamarine</a>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll drink to that Aquamarine.<br />
Cheers and happy thanksgiving to all those in the cyber universe who can tell the difference between truth from fiction.</p>
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