Comments on: The Missions of Scientology — Where Are They? https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-missions-of-scientology-where-are-they/ Something Can Be Done About It Fri, 29 Mar 2013 21:27:14 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: very anonymous https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-missions-of-scientology-where-are-they/#comment-597 Fri, 29 Mar 2013 21:27:14 +0000 http://www.mikerindersblog.org/?p=11100#comment-597 In reply to gato rojo.

That official number most probably counts every single FSM, WISE company and whatever else we have out there, as after all, every individual has a full org board, or should I say IS a full org board.

The problem started in the mid 70s, if I remember correctly, when PR talked about millions of scientologists and then could not erase that from the first WIS. So PR was stuck with a lie. I can’t say why I know the full membership without staff never was above 100,000, but others may corroborate that figure.

]]> By: Mike Rinder https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-missions-of-scientology-where-are-they/#comment-596 Fri, 29 Mar 2013 16:56:11 +0000 http://www.mikerindersblog.org/?p=11100#comment-596 In reply to Roy.

Interesting Roy. Matches with a lot of other data that has come in.

The “massive international expansion” exists only in Miscavige’s mind.

I think he might be trying to emulate LRH’s success as an author of fiction….

]]> By: Roy https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-missions-of-scientology-where-are-they/#comment-595 Fri, 29 Mar 2013 16:03:06 +0000 http://www.mikerindersblog.org/?p=11100#comment-595 The Mission holder in Chula Vista Ca. had a space that was essentially closed except for one hour per week when he checked the fax machine. Over a period of years there was little attention from upper management or the local San Diego Org. This “mission” was obviously a prop for statistical reasons and he was literally ignored. When he decided to announce his intent to close it, he got LOTS of attention and threats to keep it open. And he was pressured into opening it in the first place. The apparency that Miscavige cares about these locations beyond having a street address is paper thin indeed.

]]> By: Persistence https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-missions-of-scientology-where-are-they/#comment-594 Fri, 29 Mar 2013 12:32:06 +0000 http://www.mikerindersblog.org/?p=11100#comment-594 In reply to Undisturbed.

The Malibu “Mission” is now being run out of the mission holder’s home as it is not allowed to close.

]]> By: Robin Adair https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-missions-of-scientology-where-are-they/#comment-593 Thu, 28 Mar 2013 18:45:31 +0000 http://www.mikerindersblog.org/?p=11100#comment-593 Mike,

Many of these so called “Missions” wouldn’t even qualify as gung ho groups.
Others are just post office boxes.
Some have probably folded and are still listed on their website.
In other words any increase is more than likely a false stat.

]]> By: PlainOldThetan https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-missions-of-scientology-where-are-they/#comment-592 Thu, 28 Mar 2013 18:37:04 +0000 http://www.mikerindersblog.org/?p=11100#comment-592 Mike: It’s a pipe dream that the Mission-Org scheme is working as DM envisioned. Having lived in Los Angeles county for 35 years, I can tell you that any Mission that is more than a half-hour’s drive from an Org is definitely NOT in that Org’s field. You can’t really send a pc or trainee on a 70-mile round trip daily when selecting them to an upper Org. It’s just plain impractical and loses its romance after a few months and several thousand dollars in gas. I have raged about, and continue to rage about, the fact that Ideal Orgs are labeled “Ideal” even when there are NO missions within a half-hour’s drive. Labeling something “Ideal” by fiat don’t make it so. The emptiness of the so-called “Ideal Orgs” is testimony to that piece of the failed DM Ideal Org strategy.

]]> By: dbldan https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-missions-of-scientology-where-are-they/#comment-591 Thu, 28 Mar 2013 18:32:37 +0000 http://www.mikerindersblog.org/?p=11100#comment-591 In reply to Undisturbed.

What ever happened to the Westwood Mission, Peter & Lisa Crundall?

]]> By: One of those who see https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-missions-of-scientology-where-are-they/#comment-590 Thu, 28 Mar 2013 03:03:44 +0000 http://www.mikerindersblog.org/?p=11100#comment-590 I’m a little confused about NY. In the early 80’s I believe they had 2 missions, Geltmans and 5th Avenue, which was later on Hudson Street. They closed down then. 5th Ave in 1982 I believe. Not sure about Geltmans, but I think it was shortly after. Then I think there were no missions for a while. Not sure of my data. Anyone else have info.

]]> By: One of those who see https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-missions-of-scientology-where-are-they/#comment-589 Thu, 28 Mar 2013 03:00:21 +0000 http://www.mikerindersblog.org/?p=11100#comment-589 The one thing Scientology should be trafficking in is The Truth. The Church isn’t. Any real success they have is when they are working in Truth. At the moment, there is enough truth to keep them barely breathing. With all the lies they are committing suicide. The Independent Movement seems to have naturally taken up the banner of Truth. This is of course the correct road. Even with the disaster that the Church has become, Scientology will survive because of the great amount of truth in it. There is so much good in Scientology, lies and exaggeration are not even needed. What you are discussing here Mike is a KEY insanity in the Church.

]]> By: ExAOLA https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-missions-of-scientology-where-are-they/#comment-588 Thu, 28 Mar 2013 01:00:38 +0000 http://www.mikerindersblog.org/?p=11100#comment-588 Charlotte mission in NC is all but closed with it being housed in the mission holders office building. Last time I checked it was open one day a week with no new students in years.

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