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		By: Basketballjane		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2014 17:22:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-most-ethical-group-on-earth/#comment-57206&quot;&gt;Hallie Jane&lt;/a&gt;.

Yeah Hallie, I think that is definitely part of it. The PR line was recruiting children was necessary because they were &quot;clean&quot; they hadn&#039;t had time to rack up overts on the 3rd and 4th and most importantly the 2nd dynamic. Most girls who come to the SO are virgins. And they are still in puberty. So you have a pack of children with raging hormones, who have no experience with sex and aren&#039;t allowed to gain any or even decide for themselves if they like or want it. You can&#039;t do the normal things like,having a crush on someone and the first time you go to third base with someone. Because 3rd base is only allowed on your wedding night. What if your husband, or wife for that matter, is TERRIBLE in bed? What if your bits and pieces really aren&#039;t a good match? What if they like something you don&#039;t like? TOO FUCKING BAD! Because the last thing that is important in the Sea Org is being happy AT ALL. And yes, let&#039;s face it, a group of pubescent, virginal girls (remember what it was like to be a teenage girl for a minute) just wanting to be loved, being looked at by a 20-30 something man like you are the most beautiful person in the world is EXCITING as hell. But also gross and illegal. But it is encouraged. Especially if the Man is a senior executive, the &quot;Cleaner&quot; his wife is the better. But OH HELL NO if you are a woman. If you are 22 and you are lusting after a 16 year old you may as well pack your shit up! THAT is RPF type shit. ALSO illegal and gross but only enforced on women.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-most-ethical-group-on-earth/#comment-57206">Hallie Jane</a>.</p>
<p>Yeah Hallie, I think that is definitely part of it. The PR line was recruiting children was necessary because they were &#8220;clean&#8221; they hadn&#8217;t had time to rack up overts on the 3rd and 4th and most importantly the 2nd dynamic. Most girls who come to the SO are virgins. And they are still in puberty. So you have a pack of children with raging hormones, who have no experience with sex and aren&#8217;t allowed to gain any or even decide for themselves if they like or want it. You can&#8217;t do the normal things like,having a crush on someone and the first time you go to third base with someone. Because 3rd base is only allowed on your wedding night. What if your husband, or wife for that matter, is TERRIBLE in bed? What if your bits and pieces really aren&#8217;t a good match? What if they like something you don&#8217;t like? TOO FUCKING BAD! Because the last thing that is important in the Sea Org is being happy AT ALL. And yes, let&#8217;s face it, a group of pubescent, virginal girls (remember what it was like to be a teenage girl for a minute) just wanting to be loved, being looked at by a 20-30 something man like you are the most beautiful person in the world is EXCITING as hell. But also gross and illegal. But it is encouraged. Especially if the Man is a senior executive, the &#8220;Cleaner&#8221; his wife is the better. But OH HELL NO if you are a woman. If you are 22 and you are lusting after a 16 year old you may as well pack your shit up! THAT is RPF type shit. ALSO illegal and gross but only enforced on women.</p>
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		By: Pepper		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2014 20:41:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-most-ethical-group-on-earth/#comment-57220&quot;&gt;Pepper&lt;/a&gt;.

Spot on Dollar.  Withholding $$$$ is high in the list of crimes, right behind reading and posting about unapproved Scn on the Internet!

Child Molesting?  Meh.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-most-ethical-group-on-earth/#comment-57220">Pepper</a>.</p>
<p>Spot on Dollar.  Withholding $$$$ is high in the list of crimes, right behind reading and posting about unapproved Scn on the Internet!</p>
<p>Child Molesting?  Meh.</p>
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		By: Cindy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2014 18:59:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-most-ethical-group-on-earth/#comment-57305&quot;&gt;Hiatus57&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;Posting as Winston&quot;.  Are you Winston Kao?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-most-ethical-group-on-earth/#comment-57305">Hiatus57</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;Posting as Winston&#8221;.  Are you Winston Kao?</p>
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		By: Cindy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2014 18:56:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-most-ethical-group-on-earth/#comment-57294&quot;&gt;Mike Rinder&lt;/a&gt;.

I agree 100% with your view on this Mike. 

  Although Scns are for the most part good people seeking to do good works and help, I have known OT VII&#039;s who were so out ethics on the 2D that they had affairs with 3 people all at once and all the while hiding the fact of this from all three.  When confronted by one of them, myself, he denied it and professed innocence and high ethics level.  The one of &quot;the other women&quot; came to me and we compared notes and she also told me of the third one, and so then and only then when the smoking gun is found, does he confess to the truth.  He was on OT VII, a poet, and the church didn&#039;t take him off the level for this.  He had a history of promiscuity that I found out after the fact.  It was so bad that the MAA had made him sign a Promissory Note that he would not use his poetry as the net to draw in women for sex and also made him promise he wouldn&#039;t have sex with women while on his upcoming poetry tour.  He agreed to all that, signed the necessary papers, etc, and then went out and went out 2D on the first day with the woman who picked him up at the airport.  I am not making this up!   Scns are good people for the most part and are gullible, many of them, myself included (although I have woken up and hope to shed that part of the picture.)  But to think someone is ethical based on their level on the Grade Chart is sheer folly.  I have found &quot;mere wogs&quot; to be more ethical than some on OT VII and OT VIII.  And I don&#039;t use the word &quot;wog&quot; anymore as it is demeaning.  I just used it here to make a point.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-most-ethical-group-on-earth/#comment-57294">Mike Rinder</a>.</p>
<p>I agree 100% with your view on this Mike. </p>
<p>  Although Scns are for the most part good people seeking to do good works and help, I have known OT VII&#8217;s who were so out ethics on the 2D that they had affairs with 3 people all at once and all the while hiding the fact of this from all three.  When confronted by one of them, myself, he denied it and professed innocence and high ethics level.  The one of &#8220;the other women&#8221; came to me and we compared notes and she also told me of the third one, and so then and only then when the smoking gun is found, does he confess to the truth.  He was on OT VII, a poet, and the church didn&#8217;t take him off the level for this.  He had a history of promiscuity that I found out after the fact.  It was so bad that the MAA had made him sign a Promissory Note that he would not use his poetry as the net to draw in women for sex and also made him promise he wouldn&#8217;t have sex with women while on his upcoming poetry tour.  He agreed to all that, signed the necessary papers, etc, and then went out and went out 2D on the first day with the woman who picked him up at the airport.  I am not making this up!   Scns are good people for the most part and are gullible, many of them, myself included (although I have woken up and hope to shed that part of the picture.)  But to think someone is ethical based on their level on the Grade Chart is sheer folly.  I have found &#8220;mere wogs&#8221; to be more ethical than some on OT VII and OT VIII.  And I don&#8217;t use the word &#8220;wog&#8221; anymore as it is demeaning.  I just used it here to make a point.</p>
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		By: Cindy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2014 17:21:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-most-ethical-group-on-earth/#comment-57227&quot;&gt;Foolproof&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you for that great link, Foolproof.  I enjoyed reading the story.  It will make a good thing to email to KA drinkers.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-most-ethical-group-on-earth/#comment-57227">Foolproof</a>.</p>
<p>Thank you for that great link, Foolproof.  I enjoyed reading the story.  It will make a good thing to email to KA drinkers.</p>
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		By: Cindy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2014 16:15:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-most-ethical-group-on-earth/#comment-57210&quot;&gt;Hallie Jane&lt;/a&gt;.

+1]]></description>
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		By: Mark1		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2014 14:54:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-most-ethical-group-on-earth/#comment-57294&quot;&gt;Mike Rinder&lt;/a&gt;.

I agree with you Mike. As we know, the fact of repeated secchecks on OT VII speaks for itself in terms of the organisation&#039;s own belief in their system. — However it would be an interesting piece of information for professionals/academics who try to document fact vs. fiction of the professed gains and &quot;spiritual advances&quot; when one goes &quot;up&quot; the grade chart.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-most-ethical-group-on-earth/#comment-57294">Mike Rinder</a>.</p>
<p>I agree with you Mike. As we know, the fact of repeated secchecks on OT VII speaks for itself in terms of the organisation&#8217;s own belief in their system. — However it would be an interesting piece of information for professionals/academics who try to document fact vs. fiction of the professed gains and &#8220;spiritual advances&#8221; when one goes &#8220;up&#8221; the grade chart.</p>
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		By: gato rojo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2014 06:56:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[More of the same crap I heard for many years well before I finally escaped---&quot;JUST GET IT DONE! I DON&#039;T CARE HOW YOU DO IT!! JUST GET IT DONE!!!&quot; 

And there ya have it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More of the same crap I heard for many years well before I finally escaped&#8212;&#8220;JUST GET IT DONE! I DON&#8217;T CARE HOW YOU DO IT!! JUST GET IT DONE!!!&#8221; </p>
<p>And there ya have it.</p>
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		By: Ron		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2014 01:30:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Dim Midget ha been very successful in turning this organization into one of the most disgusting on the planet.  
Makes one&#039;s skin crawl.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Dim Midget ha been very successful in turning this organization into one of the most disgusting on the planet.<br />
Makes one&#8217;s skin crawl.</p>
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		By: Hiatus57		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2014 22:46:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Absolutely hilarious!

A &quot;heart stopping&quot; peformance.

I can only keep laughing when I read the list of the 21 donaters who got milked dry.

They did of course move up in &quot;status&quot; and this is what Scientology is ALL about today.

Give money, get status. 

Its rather like donating to a political party.

Er well no, its no,t because if you donate to a rotten political movement at least you buy a bit of legislation for your own advantage or get some other plum out of it.

With the IAS you just get a bit of fucking wood with your name on it costing about $5.00

1984 is really here at last.

I shall have to start posting as Winston to keep up with all this editing of the Tech and Policy]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely hilarious!</p>
<p>A &#8220;heart stopping&#8221; peformance.</p>
<p>I can only keep laughing when I read the list of the 21 donaters who got milked dry.</p>
<p>They did of course move up in &#8220;status&#8221; and this is what Scientology is ALL about today.</p>
<p>Give money, get status. </p>
<p>Its rather like donating to a political party.</p>
<p>Er well no, its no,t because if you donate to a rotten political movement at least you buy a bit of legislation for your own advantage or get some other plum out of it.</p>
<p>With the IAS you just get a bit of fucking wood with your name on it costing about $5.00</p>
<p>1984 is really here at last.</p>
<p>I shall have to start posting as Winston to keep up with all this editing of the Tech and Policy</p>
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