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		By: Axiom		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Jun 2013 04:39:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-mscvg-stdt-ht/#comment-6729&quot;&gt;Jana&lt;/a&gt;.

Jana,
Almost all the original LRH Tapes, PL&#039;s &#038; Tech is available on line.  Freezone has a lot of it and most of the original basic books are out there too.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-mscvg-stdt-ht/#comment-6729">Jana</a>.</p>
<p>Jana,<br />
Almost all the original LRH Tapes, PL&#8217;s &amp; Tech is available on line.  Freezone has a lot of it and most of the original basic books are out there too.</p>
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		By: Axiom		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Jun 2013 04:25:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-mscvg-stdt-ht/#comment-6780&quot;&gt;freebeeing&lt;/a&gt;.

Not only that it is not his hat.  He is to safeguard the trademarks of Dianetics &#038; Scientology.  That is it.  He is Off Hat.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-mscvg-stdt-ht/#comment-6780">freebeeing</a>.</p>
<p>Not only that it is not his hat.  He is to safeguard the trademarks of Dianetics &amp; Scientology.  That is it.  He is Off Hat.</p>
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		By: Axiom		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Axiom]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Jun 2013 04:16:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-mscvg-stdt-ht/#comment-6739&quot;&gt;Odd Thomas&lt;/a&gt;.

Thomas,
Having a great supervisor and &quot;Hard to Find Word List&quot; helped a lot.  But I agree the the result was quite wonderful.  I do not know if I would have the same result if it was &quot;sanitized&quot; of the &quot;big words&quot; and unfamiliar concepts.  I really had something to confront.  And when I was done I knew I had confronted something.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-mscvg-stdt-ht/#comment-6739">Odd Thomas</a>.</p>
<p>Thomas,<br />
Having a great supervisor and &#8220;Hard to Find Word List&#8221; helped a lot.  But I agree the the result was quite wonderful.  I do not know if I would have the same result if it was &#8220;sanitized&#8221; of the &#8220;big words&#8221; and unfamiliar concepts.  I really had something to confront.  And when I was done I knew I had confronted something.</p>
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		By: Axiom		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Axiom]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Jun 2013 03:52:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-mscvg-stdt-ht/#comment-6668&quot;&gt;Gayle Smith aka TroubleShooter&lt;/a&gt;.

Gayle,
Great post!  Also there seems to be some sort of Ser Fac or Fixed Idea at work here as well, no matter where they are on the Grade Chart.  When I try to talk with someone who is still in, it is like talking to a brick wall that pushes back.  I think that is the Kool-Aide effect.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-mscvg-stdt-ht/#comment-6668">Gayle Smith aka TroubleShooter</a>.</p>
<p>Gayle,<br />
Great post!  Also there seems to be some sort of Ser Fac or Fixed Idea at work here as well, no matter where they are on the Grade Chart.  When I try to talk with someone who is still in, it is like talking to a brick wall that pushes back.  I think that is the Kool-Aide effect.</p>
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		By: Axiom		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Jun 2013 03:39:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-mscvg-stdt-ht/#comment-6733&quot;&gt;Formost&lt;/a&gt;.

Then maybe the new students should do the &quot;Basic Study Manual&quot; first in order the get the concept of study before the Student Hat.
Now I did not have a problem with the Student Hat in 1980.  But I think there was a lesson in doing it the way it was written.  I was confronted with many subjects and topics that I had never run into before and had to use the tech as I was learning it to get through it.  It did help having real good course supes that knew where to find definitions to certain words.
I would certainly prefer the LRH version to the DM version.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-mscvg-stdt-ht/#comment-6733">Formost</a>.</p>
<p>Then maybe the new students should do the &#8220;Basic Study Manual&#8221; first in order the get the concept of study before the Student Hat.<br />
Now I did not have a problem with the Student Hat in 1980.  But I think there was a lesson in doing it the way it was written.  I was confronted with many subjects and topics that I had never run into before and had to use the tech as I was learning it to get through it.  It did help having real good course supes that knew where to find definitions to certain words.<br />
I would certainly prefer the LRH version to the DM version.</p>
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		By: tony b		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Jun 2013 01:54:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-mscvg-stdt-ht/#comment-6663&quot;&gt;Roger From Switzerland Thought&lt;/a&gt;.

Roger. There are precedents for cutting down courses to just the basics.  Here is a catholic, maybe a bit tongue-in-cheek though, approach to the same problem
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kO8x8eoU3L4]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-mscvg-stdt-ht/#comment-6663">Roger From Switzerland Thought</a>.</p>
<p>Roger. There are precedents for cutting down courses to just the basics.  Here is a catholic, maybe a bit tongue-in-cheek though, approach to the same problem<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kO8x8eoU3L4" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kO8x8eoU3L4</a></p>
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		By: gato rojo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jun 2013 01:16:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-mscvg-stdt-ht/#comment-6690&quot;&gt;KFrancis&lt;/a&gt;.

Yeah---that&#039;s the creepiest one of all. &quot;He&#039;s going to be here any minute!!&quot; &quot;He hates purple....don&#039;t make it purple!&quot; &quot;He expects to see you at that meeting.&quot; &quot;He says he wants it on his desk today.&quot; On and on and on. Really really creepy.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-mscvg-stdt-ht/#comment-6690">KFrancis</a>.</p>
<p>Yeah&#8212;that&#8217;s the creepiest one of all. &#8220;He&#8217;s going to be here any minute!!&#8221; &#8220;He hates purple&#8230;.don&#8217;t make it purple!&#8221; &#8220;He expects to see you at that meeting.&#8221; &#8220;He says he wants it on his desk today.&#8221; On and on and on. Really really creepy.</p>
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		By: Bonnie List Kittelson		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jun 2013 19:54:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Eventually the process will be: &quot;Give us your credit card. Thank you. Give us all your income. Thank you. Give us any money you might be hiding from us. Thank you.&quot;  You have now achieved the level of Freedom From Surviving Well (Or at all). And the best news is that you no longer need to bother with pesky, time consuming auditing and training.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eventually the process will be: &#8220;Give us your credit card. Thank you. Give us all your income. Thank you. Give us any money you might be hiding from us. Thank you.&#8221;  You have now achieved the level of Freedom From Surviving Well (Or at all). And the best news is that you no longer need to bother with pesky, time consuming auditing and training.</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jun 2013 17:29:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-mscvg-stdt-ht/#comment-6818&quot;&gt;Odd Thomas&lt;/a&gt;.

Beautifully said, Odd Thomas.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-mscvg-stdt-ht/#comment-6818">Odd Thomas</a>.</p>
<p>Beautifully said, Odd Thomas.</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jun 2013 17:29:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-mscvg-stdt-ht/#comment-6818&quot;&gt;Odd Thomas&lt;/a&gt;.

I did Student Hat pre GAT and in the beginning it was irritating to have to clear all the extraneous words and I rebelled and would have blown the course because I was getting the idea that I shouldn&#039;t have to slog thru all this and that I was probably stupid after all even though I had always been considered bright, and why wasn&#039;t I making the progress I felt I should be making, etc. etc...anyway, I originated all of this to my course sup who listened, and when I was done complaining, he/she r-factored me, &quot;This is not an easy course&quot;, and then just stood there and let this sink in with me.  Well, somehow, it did sink in, and I felt duplicated and validated, enough to not blow the course.  I went back to slogging thru the words in those tapes. and Eventually I comped the course, and it is no exaggeration to say that it turned my life around.  I had case gain from the confront of wordsI had to muster up.  I had case gain simply from the fact that I comp&#039;ed it, and I cognited on how I had forgotten my early love of learning.  Nice wins.  That was my personal experience with pre-GAT Student Hat which others may relate to or not as the case may be.  Due to my own personal experience I am sorry that it is being changed, but I can understand how others might welcome it.  You see, one of my wins was that words are not things, they&#039;re just the symbols for things, and, as such, they can be confronted and cleared up.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-mscvg-stdt-ht/#comment-6818">Odd Thomas</a>.</p>
<p>I did Student Hat pre GAT and in the beginning it was irritating to have to clear all the extraneous words and I rebelled and would have blown the course because I was getting the idea that I shouldn&#8217;t have to slog thru all this and that I was probably stupid after all even though I had always been considered bright, and why wasn&#8217;t I making the progress I felt I should be making, etc. etc&#8230;anyway, I originated all of this to my course sup who listened, and when I was done complaining, he/she r-factored me, &#8220;This is not an easy course&#8221;, and then just stood there and let this sink in with me.  Well, somehow, it did sink in, and I felt duplicated and validated, enough to not blow the course.  I went back to slogging thru the words in those tapes. and Eventually I comped the course, and it is no exaggeration to say that it turned my life around.  I had case gain from the confront of wordsI had to muster up.  I had case gain simply from the fact that I comp&#8217;ed it, and I cognited on how I had forgotten my early love of learning.  Nice wins.  That was my personal experience with pre-GAT Student Hat which others may relate to or not as the case may be.  Due to my own personal experience I am sorry that it is being changed, but I can understand how others might welcome it.  You see, one of my wins was that words are not things, they&#8217;re just the symbols for things, and, as such, they can be confronted and cleared up.</p>
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