Right, Jethro. Ron also said that R2-45 was a quick exteriorization process, but everyone knew it was a joke.

Having said that, I have read that Ron could key into some real spitefulness so he may have meant it when he wrote it but chilled out later.

I know a woman who was overboarded 5 times by LRH. And they were friends! 😀 Some time later, the conversation turned to those overboardings. He said, “I did that to you?” She said yes, to which he said, “That wasn’t very gentlemanly of me, was it?” “No, it wasn’t,” she replied.

That tells me two things. Apparently, he wasn’t to clear on who he overboarded, when, so what influence was he under? Some have said that Ron used certain drugs. Maybe he “musta got high” and did some ridicuouls stuff. Or, he just lost his mind for pockets at a time. Maybe both?

One thing I read about some of his last days was that he asked, “Do you think they’ll remember me?” So sad. Y’all can try to demonize the man but that’s what he was; a man. Full of faults and some pockets of severely flawed stupidity (as some men are known to have – and some women too).

Human being. Bigger than life so everything was amplified – the good and the bad.

Roger – thaaaaaaaaaaank you for what you said about the Pain and Sex reference. Oh man. SOOO many people are confused by that. I have seen Scientologists – men especially – seem to go into this androgynous beingness on sex, after reading it.

The thinking pattern seems to be, “I love sex. But pain equals sex. So sex must be bad for people. Sex must be bad for me. I must have been bad when I had so much fun with sex. OH! Those must have been overts I committed on those women and I shouldn’t commit overts – so I shouldn’t have (or at least enjoy)sex.”

Crazy, crazy doodle.

And then the woman and the man game became homogenized into one. “Thetans are thetans. Men are thetans and women are thetans. There are no differences. Sex was just a means to entrap so I shouldn’t further the lie that sex is good because it is bad. A woman should be a man because men are neutral thetans.”

I’d look at these people, so confused, and try to kind of word clear them on the reference but, the reference itself was confusing so it was very difficult to clear. Total cat chasing its tail. The closest I got to making it make sense is that sex may have been used to trap and pain was a way to enslave people, but pain does not EQUAL sex.

Having said that, I always sort of squinted when I read it, trying to see the logic. With these eyes now, it doesn’t appear that there was any.

But it sure was used to trap and enslave a lot of SO members (and screw up the public – pardon the pun) and to get thousands of dollars out of masterbators, so it benefited someone.

I remember after auditing assigning cause of subsequent happy happenings to the auditing or whatever process just run. I also remember the cognitive dissonance when a whole of bad news arrived or unhappy happenings occurred. I would merely push these things under the carpet hardly paying this contradiction any notice.

However, slowly I did start to pay attention to this in my own life and especially to OTs who were failing in life, generally having a hard time.

I read somewhere the Miscavige actually took the despatch literally and spat on David Mayo. Compliance, sir! Miscarriage is just a snot-nosed punk.

Did the little prick forge that document?

You mixed up the Cause Resurgence Rundown (CRRD) with the Clear Certainty Rundown (CCRD). Easy mistake to make given Scientology’s acronym applesauce.

ha? well, no. Even as a bad joke, i still don’t get it. Sounds way too much like mocking the abused.
What an insufficient word that was. “Oppressed, psychologically manipulated
(a psychotic anti-social action), and criminally disrespected “working” scientologist. Yeah, that guy. The, abused.
Hey man, that’s my turf, sorry, my target audience.
There is going to be some damage control, and…
Being sick of wasting time I need to readdress an unanswered Q i posted WEEKS ago (sorry i’ll quit sceaming, soon) :
Why must we act like the enemies of ourselves? And Im outta here, just gotta go. It’s a rhetorical question anyway.

Still working on the policy for the RPFs RPFs RPF. This is still a fairly new religion after all.

thx Dude my man!
say, I’ve asked Mike to send you my eMail address.
My car is rebuilt! I am taking a vacation!
(from North Pacific Coast)
I want to see that big blue building,
(is it real? and, is it creepy in real-life as it looks in the movie?)
and then I think I will be awfully close to your beloved beach…
or mine, Redondo-Huntington-Manhattan.
Let’s show the guys inside how fun real life can be.