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		By: cindy		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-sad-tale-of-ideal-orgs/#comment-62828</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2014 22:02:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-sad-tale-of-ideal-orgs/#comment-62815&quot;&gt;Zephyr&lt;/a&gt;.

I&#039;m down with a class action suit!  Anyone have any info on them good or bad?]]></description>
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<p>I&#8217;m down with a class action suit!  Anyone have any info on them good or bad?</p>
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		By: Zephyr		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zephyr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2014 20:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-sad-tale-of-ideal-orgs/#comment-62723&quot;&gt;Aquamarine&lt;/a&gt;.

I third that! 
Mike, your peeling of the onion to show the underlying truth is HIGHLY appreciated including
the daily laughs this provides from your sharp pen and other bloggers here.
The Spirit of Play CAN survive here...
Greta]]></description>
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<p>I third that!<br />
Mike, your peeling of the onion to show the underlying truth is HIGHLY appreciated including<br />
the daily laughs this provides from your sharp pen and other bloggers here.<br />
The Spirit of Play CAN survive here&#8230;<br />
Greta</p>
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		By: Zephyr		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zephyr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2014 20:27:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-sad-tale-of-ideal-orgs/#comment-62685&quot;&gt;Cooper J Kessel&lt;/a&gt;.

Isn&#039;t it time for a class law suit by all of the shattered families to put an end to this depraved practice?]]></description>
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<p>Isn&#8217;t it time for a class law suit by all of the shattered families to put an end to this depraved practice?</p>
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		By: Zephyr		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zephyr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2014 20:22:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-sad-tale-of-ideal-orgs/#comment-62663&quot;&gt;Henk de Vries&lt;/a&gt;.

Henk, thanks a bunch.
OMG! re Zuerich org. They had a nice building and were busy in 1990 in the middle of town. Made &#039;St. Hill size&#039; then but of course with false stats...
If this is the new Ideal Org this guarantees never making it out there. That MUST BE planned that way, DM&#039;s
true colors!
Greta]]></description>
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<p>Henk, thanks a bunch.<br />
OMG! re Zuerich org. They had a nice building and were busy in 1990 in the middle of town. Made &#8216;St. Hill size&#8217; then but of course with false stats&#8230;<br />
If this is the new Ideal Org this guarantees never making it out there. That MUST BE planned that way, DM&#8217;s<br />
true colors!<br />
Greta</p>
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		By: MJ		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MJ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2014 15:57:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-sad-tale-of-ideal-orgs/#comment-62774&quot;&gt;Pepper&lt;/a&gt;.

Pray that Hurricane Hubbard decimates the Int Base.]]></description>
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<p>Pray that Hurricane Hubbard decimates the Int Base.</p>
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		By: Beryl		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Beryl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2014 15:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-sad-tale-of-ideal-orgs/#comment-62699&quot;&gt;Friend&lt;/a&gt;.

So true...and these days, a lot of reading is done online and on kindles. Books are no longer the only way to get out this information.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-sad-tale-of-ideal-orgs/#comment-62699">Friend</a>.</p>
<p>So true&#8230;and these days, a lot of reading is done online and on kindles. Books are no longer the only way to get out this information.</p>
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		By: Pepper		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pepper]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2014 15:05:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-sad-tale-of-ideal-orgs/#comment-62677&quot;&gt;McCarran&lt;/a&gt;.

+1 McCarran.  I hope all children and parents reconcile soon.  Alloying affinity between spouses, parents and children, siblings, friends and any other human being for the sake of &#039;Scientology&#039; is useless and evil.]]></description>
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<p>+1 McCarran.  I hope all children and parents reconcile soon.  Alloying affinity between spouses, parents and children, siblings, friends and any other human being for the sake of &#8216;Scientology&#8217; is useless and evil.</p>
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		By: Pepper		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pepper]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2014 14:52:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-sad-tale-of-ideal-orgs/#comment-62740&quot;&gt;J. Swift&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;The Church of Scientology reminds me of notoriously cheap and wealthy misers like Leona Helmsley.&quot;

Very true, JSwift.  I recall when the Asian tsunami occurred in 2004 and then Hurricane Katrina hit in 2005, and I clearly noticed that no donations were made by the Church of Scientology / IAS to any relief fund.

This really bothered me because I saw that so many other churches, corporations, private businesses, private citizens, celebrities, literally everyone else was making donations to help the people affected by these disasters.  Not a single penny from the CoS / IAS. I thought &quot;Why is this?&quot;  Truly, I already knew the answer to that because I had been in for a while and knew the drill.  The IAS is its own &#039;relief force&#039; and asserts itself as superior to all others. 

Whenever I was approached to make a donation to the IAS for these events or any other disaster, I would politely tell the person that I had already donated to the Red Cross, which I always do.  That didn&#039;t always go over very well, you can imagine.  It&#039;s just that I know a few simple things:  Bodies die in a short period of time without water or food, blood saves lives, and morphine is a fantastic pain reliever for broken, torn up bodies.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-sad-tale-of-ideal-orgs/#comment-62740">J. Swift</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;The Church of Scientology reminds me of notoriously cheap and wealthy misers like Leona Helmsley.&#8221;</p>
<p>Very true, JSwift.  I recall when the Asian tsunami occurred in 2004 and then Hurricane Katrina hit in 2005, and I clearly noticed that no donations were made by the Church of Scientology / IAS to any relief fund.</p>
<p>This really bothered me because I saw that so many other churches, corporations, private businesses, private citizens, celebrities, literally everyone else was making donations to help the people affected by these disasters.  Not a single penny from the CoS / IAS. I thought &#8220;Why is this?&#8221;  Truly, I already knew the answer to that because I had been in for a while and knew the drill.  The IAS is its own &#8216;relief force&#8217; and asserts itself as superior to all others. </p>
<p>Whenever I was approached to make a donation to the IAS for these events or any other disaster, I would politely tell the person that I had already donated to the Red Cross, which I always do.  That didn&#8217;t always go over very well, you can imagine.  It&#8217;s just that I know a few simple things:  Bodies die in a short period of time without water or food, blood saves lives, and morphine is a fantastic pain reliever for broken, torn up bodies.</p>
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		By: Cooper J Kessel		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cooper J Kessel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2014 14:48:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-sad-tale-of-ideal-orgs/#comment-62752&quot;&gt;McCarran&lt;/a&gt;.

I agree. The analogy I use is like leaves on a tree; one lost leaf does not cause a serious problem but no leaves is a death sentence. So how do the leaves fall from a tree?

One leaf at a time, sometimes two or three. So let&#039;s keep the still-ins leafing!! Thanks to everyone here who has left and to you Mike for manning the rake.]]></description>
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<p>I agree. The analogy I use is like leaves on a tree; one lost leaf does not cause a serious problem but no leaves is a death sentence. So how do the leaves fall from a tree?</p>
<p>One leaf at a time, sometimes two or three. So let&#8217;s keep the still-ins leafing!! Thanks to everyone here who has left and to you Mike for manning the rake.</p>
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		By: Cooper J Kessel		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cooper J Kessel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2014 14:42:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-sad-tale-of-ideal-orgs/#comment-62696&quot;&gt;Kevin&lt;/a&gt;.

At some point I think Dear Leader will step back and do an eval on the cost of maintaining the slave labor population against the ability of those slaves to maintain a positive cash flow. The Ideal Morgue campaign works well so long as enough staff remain to create the false flag of expansion. 

So in LA, if there are 2000 staffers then each week they have to cough up enough food and pay to cover basic costs which for arguments sake lets say is $50.00 per week per person.($20 for pay and $30 for rice and beans). Their other hard costs are utilities and and a small stipend for rodent control each month. Say utilities for big blue, HGB, CC and the other misc facilities are $20K/mo.

All totaled:
$50 x 2000 x 4.3 wks/mo = $430K/mo plus utilities rounds to $450,000.00/mo

Until the expenses exceed the costs I suspect the charade will continue. The Morgue program seems to mainly provide cover for Darth Vader along with a plausible explanation for 501c.3 compliant use of funds. 

The good news is that all of us outies have cut the funding source. That combined with the net effect of all the bad (spelled TRUTHFUL) data we share about the cult further erodes the funding. For those of us with kids still in, we know that without connections to their boomer parents retirement funds, their is little chance they will be able to donate.  So life support becomes the whales still in. 

I can&#039;t wait for the final curtain call. If my numbers are out of whack I will defer to Mike for an accurate eval!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-sad-tale-of-ideal-orgs/#comment-62696">Kevin</a>.</p>
<p>At some point I think Dear Leader will step back and do an eval on the cost of maintaining the slave labor population against the ability of those slaves to maintain a positive cash flow. The Ideal Morgue campaign works well so long as enough staff remain to create the false flag of expansion. </p>
<p>So in LA, if there are 2000 staffers then each week they have to cough up enough food and pay to cover basic costs which for arguments sake lets say is $50.00 per week per person.($20 for pay and $30 for rice and beans). Their other hard costs are utilities and and a small stipend for rodent control each month. Say utilities for big blue, HGB, CC and the other misc facilities are $20K/mo.</p>
<p>All totaled:<br />
$50 x 2000 x 4.3 wks/mo = $430K/mo plus utilities rounds to $450,000.00/mo</p>
<p>Until the expenses exceed the costs I suspect the charade will continue. The Morgue program seems to mainly provide cover for Darth Vader along with a plausible explanation for 501c.3 compliant use of funds. </p>
<p>The good news is that all of us outies have cut the funding source. That combined with the net effect of all the bad (spelled TRUTHFUL) data we share about the cult further erodes the funding. For those of us with kids still in, we know that without connections to their boomer parents retirement funds, their is little chance they will be able to donate.  So life support becomes the whales still in. </p>
<p>I can&#8217;t wait for the final curtain call. If my numbers are out of whack I will defer to Mike for an accurate eval!</p>
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