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		By: Laura Amato		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Laura Amato]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2023 16:25:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-scientology-celebrity-centre-network-is-rapidly-disappearing/#comment-512615&quot;&gt;Mike Rinder&lt;/a&gt;.

Perfect! I&#039;ll do my best, very curious to see this place as the area is a very upper class residential area, but not not at all near the tourist attractions, so there wouldn&#039;t be many people who walk by it. Yes, Florence is indeed very beautiful, I am very lucky to be from here, I can&#039;t complain!
Laura]]></description>
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<p>Perfect! I&#8217;ll do my best, very curious to see this place as the area is a very upper class residential area, but not not at all near the tourist attractions, so there wouldn&#8217;t be many people who walk by it. Yes, Florence is indeed very beautiful, I am very lucky to be from here, I can&#8217;t complain!<br />
Laura</p>
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		By: Mike Rinder		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Rinder]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2023 16:14:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-scientology-celebrity-centre-network-is-rapidly-disappearing/#comment-512598&quot;&gt;Laura Amato&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you Laura. Yes, pictures would be wonderful! I always appreciate when readers send in pix and other information about their local area.

How lucky are you to live in one of the most beautiful cities in the world!]]></description>
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<p>Thank you Laura. Yes, pictures would be wonderful! I always appreciate when readers send in pix and other information about their local area.</p>
<p>How lucky are you to live in one of the most beautiful cities in the world!</p>
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		By: Laura Amato		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Laura Amato]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2023 13:22:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hello, I was looking for this information, I am a never scientologist but I follow all the major youtubers and sometimes blogs and news on Scientology and its abuse. I live in Florence Italy and when I heard on Aaron&#039;s video that there is, or was, a Celebrity Centre here I was shocked as I have rearly seen any traces of Scientology around Florence. I checked the address online and it&#039;s the same as the one listed here in this blog, I will be going to check it out in the next few weeks as it&#039;s only a 15 minutes walk from my house and then I will be able to confirm if it&#039;s open or close. Would pictures be of any interest?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello, I was looking for this information, I am a never scientologist but I follow all the major youtubers and sometimes blogs and news on Scientology and its abuse. I live in Florence Italy and when I heard on Aaron&#8217;s video that there is, or was, a Celebrity Centre here I was shocked as I have rearly seen any traces of Scientology around Florence. I checked the address online and it&#8217;s the same as the one listed here in this blog, I will be going to check it out in the next few weeks as it&#8217;s only a 15 minutes walk from my house and then I will be able to confirm if it&#8217;s open or close. Would pictures be of any interest?</p>
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		By: Mockingbird		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-scientology-celebrity-centre-network-is-rapidly-disappearing/#comment-512169</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mockingbird]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2023 03:51:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-scientology-celebrity-centre-network-is-rapidly-disappearing/#comment-512068&quot;&gt;xTeamXenu75to03chuckbeatty&lt;/a&gt;.

By the way I think that quackery is a very good substitute for Scientology in Scientology doctrine! I also think the phrase &quot;people doing what I tell them to!&quot; by Ronald Hubbard is a good substitute for Scientology! If you read every place you read Scientology before and substitute that phrase then it becomes clear what Scientology is all about!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-scientology-celebrity-centre-network-is-rapidly-disappearing/#comment-512068">xTeamXenu75to03chuckbeatty</a>.</p>
<p>By the way I think that quackery is a very good substitute for Scientology in Scientology doctrine! I also think the phrase &#8220;people doing what I tell them to!&#8221; by Ronald Hubbard is a good substitute for Scientology! If you read every place you read Scientology before and substitute that phrase then it becomes clear what Scientology is all about!</p>
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		By: Mockingbird		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mockingbird]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2023 03:48:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Something I have pointed out a few times before is that while I was in Scientology (1989 -2014) and after I left I have several times encountered people who told me they traveled across the US and tried to stop at orgs or missions that were listed in Scientology publications and found the buildings to be empty. Several asked the locals if the org moved and reported that they said it closed down years ago and there&#039;s no Scientology org or mission there now.

I posted a few comments about this on Facebook and almost immediately started getting more people telling me the same thing happened when they were looking for orgs and missions that are listed by Scientology!

I think this is really worth looking into because a few people who are giving lots of money every year might stop if they realize Scientology is not even the thirty thousand or twenty thousand they estimate but might be shrinking under David Miscavige and down to ten or seven thousand!

Think about it! If David Miscavige has goofed the floof so bad he let Scientology decline from its peak of perhaps a hundred thousand or less in 1980 or so down to perhaps a tenth of that they would realize he has been a complete and total failure and stop supporting him!

I think a significant portion of the people still in Scientology would be shocked to learn about closed orgs and missions being false reported as still thriving for years after they close.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Something I have pointed out a few times before is that while I was in Scientology (1989 -2014) and after I left I have several times encountered people who told me they traveled across the US and tried to stop at orgs or missions that were listed in Scientology publications and found the buildings to be empty. Several asked the locals if the org moved and reported that they said it closed down years ago and there&#8217;s no Scientology org or mission there now.</p>
<p>I posted a few comments about this on Facebook and almost immediately started getting more people telling me the same thing happened when they were looking for orgs and missions that are listed by Scientology!</p>
<p>I think this is really worth looking into because a few people who are giving lots of money every year might stop if they realize Scientology is not even the thirty thousand or twenty thousand they estimate but might be shrinking under David Miscavige and down to ten or seven thousand!</p>
<p>Think about it! If David Miscavige has goofed the floof so bad he let Scientology decline from its peak of perhaps a hundred thousand or less in 1980 or so down to perhaps a tenth of that they would realize he has been a complete and total failure and stop supporting him!</p>
<p>I think a significant portion of the people still in Scientology would be shocked to learn about closed orgs and missions being false reported as still thriving for years after they close.</p>
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		By: Mockingbird		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-scientology-celebrity-centre-network-is-rapidly-disappearing/#comment-512166</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mockingbird]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2023 03:40:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-scientology-celebrity-centre-network-is-rapidly-disappearing/#comment-512028&quot;&gt;Mike Rinder&lt;/a&gt;.

I occasionally run into people who believe Stalin and Mao did no wrong. Um, I have seen a lot of literature by the likes of Robert Jay Lifton whose work I have used extensively to unweave the web of lies that is Scientology and disentangle myself and I don&#039;t think he discovered the eight criteria for thought reform by accident.

 I believe his study of the Chinese brainwashing techniques was genuine and he didn&#039;t coincidentally unlock the methods used by Scientology while making untrue propaganda about benign and misunderstood methods!

I think he studied brainwashing techniques used by the Chinese and Soviets and this resulted in his model.

I have to tell any admirers of communism that the totalitarian states of the Soviet Union and China were never in my opinion free or utopian. 

I know that Marxists can say that the governments we have had didn&#039;t fit his description of a dictatorship of the proletariat which he described as the Paris Commune which was not a traditional dictatorship but actually a representative democracy, but the history of Lenin, Marx, Mao and on and on is a nightmare for human rights. 

Maybe no one after Marx actually did what he intended but it is not a reason to glorify monsters just because they claimed to follow his ideas while just being the same old tyranny we have had before.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-scientology-celebrity-centre-network-is-rapidly-disappearing/#comment-512028">Mike Rinder</a>.</p>
<p>I occasionally run into people who believe Stalin and Mao did no wrong. Um, I have seen a lot of literature by the likes of Robert Jay Lifton whose work I have used extensively to unweave the web of lies that is Scientology and disentangle myself and I don&#8217;t think he discovered the eight criteria for thought reform by accident.</p>
<p> I believe his study of the Chinese brainwashing techniques was genuine and he didn&#8217;t coincidentally unlock the methods used by Scientology while making untrue propaganda about benign and misunderstood methods!</p>
<p>I think he studied brainwashing techniques used by the Chinese and Soviets and this resulted in his model.</p>
<p>I have to tell any admirers of communism that the totalitarian states of the Soviet Union and China were never in my opinion free or utopian. </p>
<p>I know that Marxists can say that the governments we have had didn&#8217;t fit his description of a dictatorship of the proletariat which he described as the Paris Commune which was not a traditional dictatorship but actually a representative democracy, but the history of Lenin, Marx, Mao and on and on is a nightmare for human rights. </p>
<p>Maybe no one after Marx actually did what he intended but it is not a reason to glorify monsters just because they claimed to follow his ideas while just being the same old tyranny we have had before.</p>
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		By: Mockingbird		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mockingbird]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2023 03:29:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-scientology-celebrity-centre-network-is-rapidly-disappearing/#comment-512068&quot;&gt;xTeamXenu75to03chuckbeatty&lt;/a&gt;.

Well, in my opinion Scientology is a covert effort to mentally enslave humanity by Hubbard and he as Nibs described tried to take a black magic ritual and using hypnosis spread it out over decades to make the victim into a mental pseudoclone of Hubbard and thereby give him a fake kind of immortality. 

So, it never becomes something beneficial since it never was anything beneficial.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-scientology-celebrity-centre-network-is-rapidly-disappearing/#comment-512068">xTeamXenu75to03chuckbeatty</a>.</p>
<p>Well, in my opinion Scientology is a covert effort to mentally enslave humanity by Hubbard and he as Nibs described tried to take a black magic ritual and using hypnosis spread it out over decades to make the victim into a mental pseudoclone of Hubbard and thereby give him a fake kind of immortality. </p>
<p>So, it never becomes something beneficial since it never was anything beneficial.</p>
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		By: Gabriel Halliwell		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gabriel Halliwell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2023 17:13:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-scientology-celebrity-centre-network-is-rapidly-disappearing/#comment-512071&quot;&gt;jim rowles&lt;/a&gt;.

I&#039;d like to try to answer your question, &quot;Homosexual or asexual?&quot; Unfortunately, I just have no idea.  His sexual activities seem to be secret and remain very well hidden.  He arranged for his wife to be &quot;disappeared&quot; many years ago and there is very little evidence to suggest just how he has been satisfying his sexual urges since then. Of course, that assumes that he does have sexual urges - but I just have no idea.

I suppose my opinion is that this fellow is an extremely &quot;weird type individual&quot; and when you consider his penchant for beating on people who are much larger than himself (but always in the presence of several security type people to protect him), it&#039;s just very difficult to guess anything about his sexual desires or activities.

Furthermore, I would guess that he is just such a strange person and he lives in an extremely high state of fear and paranoia, there is just no telling how his story will end. But whatever that end may be, I am fairly certain it will involve a huge amount of money that will be hidden away under the protection of off-shore bank accounts.

Finally, I would guess that no matter how his twisted tale will end, he will remain a minor footnote in history - somewhat similar to the Reverand Sun Yung Baboon.

People will remember his name with a twist - perhaps something like the CEO Daveed Missed Cabbage - unless he arranges for some kind of mass slaughter like Jim Jones. 

But ain&#039;t it interesting how even Jim Jones is hardly remembered at all in the annals of history. This rat will likely be remembered as a terrible piece of shit. What was his name again?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-scientology-celebrity-centre-network-is-rapidly-disappearing/#comment-512071">jim rowles</a>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to try to answer your question, &#8220;Homosexual or asexual?&#8221; Unfortunately, I just have no idea.  His sexual activities seem to be secret and remain very well hidden.  He arranged for his wife to be &#8220;disappeared&#8221; many years ago and there is very little evidence to suggest just how he has been satisfying his sexual urges since then. Of course, that assumes that he does have sexual urges &#8211; but I just have no idea.</p>
<p>I suppose my opinion is that this fellow is an extremely &#8220;weird type individual&#8221; and when you consider his penchant for beating on people who are much larger than himself (but always in the presence of several security type people to protect him), it&#8217;s just very difficult to guess anything about his sexual desires or activities.</p>
<p>Furthermore, I would guess that he is just such a strange person and he lives in an extremely high state of fear and paranoia, there is just no telling how his story will end. But whatever that end may be, I am fairly certain it will involve a huge amount of money that will be hidden away under the protection of off-shore bank accounts.</p>
<p>Finally, I would guess that no matter how his twisted tale will end, he will remain a minor footnote in history &#8211; somewhat similar to the Reverand Sun Yung Baboon.</p>
<p>People will remember his name with a twist &#8211; perhaps something like the CEO Daveed Missed Cabbage &#8211; unless he arranges for some kind of mass slaughter like Jim Jones. </p>
<p>But ain&#8217;t it interesting how even Jim Jones is hardly remembered at all in the annals of history. This rat will likely be remembered as a terrible piece of shit. What was his name again?</p>
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		By: Ruth		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ruth]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2023 13:23:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-scientology-celebrity-centre-network-is-rapidly-disappearing/#comment-512070&quot;&gt;jim rowles&lt;/a&gt;.

And in this case, everybody below the top elf is leaving. The MOST miserable place to work is at the top, right under elf. It indicates the problem is DM. Pretty odvious huh.]]></description>
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<p>And in this case, everybody below the top elf is leaving. The MOST miserable place to work is at the top, right under elf. It indicates the problem is DM. Pretty odvious huh.</p>
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		By: PeaceMaker		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[PeaceMaker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2023 12:40:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-scientology-celebrity-centre-network-is-rapidly-disappearing/#comment-512056&quot;&gt;Hotdogandsauce&lt;/a&gt;.

There were once &quot;Celebrity Centres&quot; in smaller cities sold as sort of mission packages, as shown on really old lists.  There were a whole lot of them in places sometimes in places that made no sense at all, and that are long gone.  I think Dallas may even have been one of those.]]></description>
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<p>There were once &#8220;Celebrity Centres&#8221; in smaller cities sold as sort of mission packages, as shown on really old lists.  There were a whole lot of them in places sometimes in places that made no sense at all, and that are long gone.  I think Dallas may even have been one of those.</p>
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