Comments on: The War of the Hubbards https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-war-of-the-hubbards/ Something Can Be Done About It Sat, 15 Aug 2020 13:55:40 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: mwesten https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-war-of-the-hubbards/#comment-356494 Sat, 15 Aug 2020 13:55:40 +0000 http://www.mikerindersblog.org/?p=2478672#comment-356494 In reply to Bruce Ploetz.

I love this! Thanks Bruce.
Perfectly stated.

]]> By: mwesten https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-war-of-the-hubbards/#comment-356492 Sat, 15 Aug 2020 13:41:47 +0000 http://www.mikerindersblog.org/?p=2478672#comment-356492 In reply to Briana V..

“Scientology is, essentially, a private intelligence/blackmail gathering, and dirty tricks operation (under the guise of “counseling,” and “religion.”) This part is hidden. This, and the survival of the LRH name-and-“image” forever/fanatic club might be described as its core.”

Maybe. Yet your assertion denies the perspectives of those at the heart of this argument: parishioners. The significances you assign to the nature of the church contrast with those who actively/passively make it what it is. Their opinions matter.

“1965 Fair Game is covert; 1966 ‘What is Greatness’ is PR. Two different levels. No contradiction.”

Hubbard also said that one should never use lies in PR. If PR conflicts with Intel then yes, this is a contradiction.

To the run-of-the-mill scientologist, “PR” is the religion. It is at the very core of what they have signed up to. The epitome of Hubbard and his scripture. The example of its efficacy. Theta. It is the scientologist’s “American Dream.” And like America, there is no reason why Intelligence and PR shouldn’t complement eachother.

Within the CoS, they do not. They are in opposition. They contradict eachother.

And so it is within the US.

What makes the United States of America? Its government? Its intel community? The military-industrial complex? Or everyday, run of the mill Americans and the ideals they uphold?

]]> By: Cindy https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-war-of-the-hubbards/#comment-356122 Wed, 12 Aug 2020 17:41:44 +0000 http://www.mikerindersblog.org/?p=2478672#comment-356122 In reply to Scribe.

NIcely done!

]]> By: Abby Ration https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-war-of-the-hubbards/#comment-356070 Wed, 12 Aug 2020 10:22:16 +0000 http://www.mikerindersblog.org/?p=2478672#comment-356070 In reply to Scribe.

Bravo/brava! Writing a sonnet is not easy. I’ve written several. The most memorable occasion was when I wrote one on the ferry heading to see my then-fiancé; just sat down at the table after we embarked and had it completed before the ferry docked on the other side, less than 40 minutes total. He still has it somewhere. We’ve been married over 16 1/2 years now.

]]> By: Cindy https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-war-of-the-hubbards/#comment-355978 Tue, 11 Aug 2020 17:50:09 +0000 http://www.mikerindersblog.org/?p=2478672#comment-355978 In reply to ISNOINews.

Thanks for the info. I hope the same doesn’t slow down the Danny Donkey Punch Masterson trial.

]]> By: Golden Era Parachute https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-war-of-the-hubbards/#comment-355926 Tue, 11 Aug 2020 05:51:51 +0000 http://www.mikerindersblog.org/?p=2478672#comment-355926 I wasn’t in long, but the duplicity was apparent early on. This points it out well, Hubbard contradicted himself often. Well, I happened to bring this up to a Scientologist while I was being brought onto the bridge and I got an answer.
The explanation will be a key-in for any ex-Scientologist. First, the whole chronology of the authored works came up. He wrote these as he researched them. His later works always supercede the earlier works. In other words, besides his words being literal as you read them, you now have to take chronology of research into consideration. It made more sense then, but I still had issues when the ED or DoE would point out specific policy letters for context that would contradict what I had read. I guess they believed policy letters always superceded the basics? It was confusing then as it is now. But somehow Scientologists can make it work by always thinking their citation is the most authoritative. I even had some of them verbally citing LRH when denying my refund, indirectly threatening to declare me through verbal citation of an LRH quote as a way to get me to rescind my request. Crazy, right?!

]]> By: WhatAreYourCrimes https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-war-of-the-hubbards/#comment-355911 Tue, 11 Aug 2020 03:41:20 +0000 http://www.mikerindersblog.org/?p=2478672#comment-355911 The choice made by COB? Cantankerous, vengeful, old shit.

In the words of that old knight in The Last Crusade, “He chose… poorly.”

]]> By: ISNOINews https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-war-of-the-hubbards/#comment-355906 Tue, 11 Aug 2020 02:09:56 +0000 http://www.mikerindersblog.org/?p=2478672#comment-355906 In reply to Cindy.

Because of the COVID-19 pandemic, Rizza Islam’s and his mother’s Pretrial Conference / Trial Setting Conference was continued to January 12, 2021.

]]> By: Loosing my Religion https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-war-of-the-hubbards/#comment-355904 Tue, 11 Aug 2020 01:54:47 +0000 http://www.mikerindersblog.org/?p=2478672#comment-355904 TrevAnon. I have seen it. I really like this girl. Her analysis is perfect. Absolutely well worth watching.

]]> By: Loosing my Religion https://www.mikerindersblog.org/the-war-of-the-hubbards/#comment-355903 Tue, 11 Aug 2020 01:50:39 +0000 http://www.mikerindersblog.org/?p=2478672#comment-355903 In reply to TrevAnon.

TrevAnon. I have seen it. I really like this girl. Her analysis is perfect. Absolutely well worth watching.

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