Actually not Patrick. There are almost ZERO new people. Most are old timers that prove the old adage from Mark Twain as true, “It’s Easier to Fool People Than to Convince Them That They Have Been Fooled”

Chuck, You explain the OT levels very well and I should have had that briefing in 1972 when I asked the questions. Hubbard knew how to keep a secret in the early days before the internet. It took me me more than seventeen years and more than $100,000 to prove that Hubbard was insane.

I Yawnalot,

Your mention of the level that would never complete reminded me of my experience.

Mine was just like Jason Beghe. We both went exterior doing TR0 and discovered just how good and able we truly were. Earth shattering achievement and realizations.

I wanted to make that stable. But every registrar pushed me to just do the next step on the bridge and of course demanded more money. Well after 4 decades of never getting what I wanted (stably exterior) I thought maybe I need to do the training side. So at Flag I asked two of the TRs Course supervisors if I would reach my goal on the TRs course. Each of them “wiggled and waggled” then one finally said she could not assure me of that. I realized well I am not going to get the ONLY result I truly ever wanted so I crawled back up the rabbit hole I tumbled down all too long ago.

Those upper levels, OT 3 through 7, address the “body-thetans” that Xenu deposited here on earth, and these “body-thetans” infest all humans, and only the exorcism procedures of OT 3, 4, 5, 6 and 7, will supposedly eventually cause one’s infestation of these “body-thetans” to leave one’s body, and one is then supposedly spiritually really rejuvenated fully.

Just so frustrating that Scientology’s 5 exorcism levels are never simply explained. It would have been so helpful to simply understand what all these “upper levels” and the first and second Wall of Fire were all about. (Simplest important piece of info I’ve learned since leaving Scientology, is that Xenu caused the Wall of Fire, which truly is a breakthrough simple piece of info to learn.)

The procedures of OT levels 3, 4, 5, 6 and 7 are simply exorcism. Exorcism of a person’s individual load (your “OT case”) of the “body-thetans” which Xenu dumped onto earth during the original “Wall of Fire” “4th Dynamic Engram.”

Thus, this explains what even this supposed “Second Wall of Fire” really is. It’s just more, much much more, exorcism to really dig up and find all of a person’s additional “body-thetans” that they didn’t even notice they still had after doing OT 3.

OT 4, 5, 6 and then OT 7 which is even more high volume exorcism procedures, are just more and more (“Second Wall of Fire”) exorcism.

This extra exorcism is just hyped as the “Second Wall of Fire” to deflect off the disappointing fact that it is just more exorcism.

And why is all this exorcism done. Because Hubbard thought it was needed.

He was still battling some “body-thetans” at the end of his life, and he was apparently still auditing himself on OT 7 in his final year of life.

The people who are Scientologists need to not drown themselves in their misleading language which doesn’t allow them to even see what they are doing in their movement.

OT 3, 4, 5, 6 and 7 are just a whole lot of exorcism.

Futile exorcism.

A key word ex Scientologists ought to look up, is “snipe hunting” when they get to the point of doubting if doing all this exorcism was a good thing or not.

I think it’s clearly “snipe hunting.” But Hubbard seems to have been a diehard believer in his own theory of “body-thetans” and in his standard exorcism procedures, which he tried to use on himself to the bitter end of his life.