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		By: Lily R		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lily R]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jun 2022 16:38:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/through-the-bubble-lilis-adventures-in-scientologyland-part-16/#comment-483858&quot;&gt;chuckbeatty77@aol.com&lt;/a&gt;.

Indeed you are. Not sure where my head was there, Chuck. Down the rabbit hole I suppose.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/through-the-bubble-lilis-adventures-in-scientologyland-part-16/#comment-483858">chuckbeatty77@aol.com</a>.</p>
<p>Indeed you are. Not sure where my head was there, Chuck. Down the rabbit hole I suppose.</p>
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		By: chuckbeatty77@aol.com		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[chuckbeatty77@aol.com]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jun 2022 01:43:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/through-the-bubble-lilis-adventures-in-scientologyland-part-16/#comment-483595&quot;&gt;Lili R&lt;/a&gt;.

I&#039;m Chuck, 
xTeamXenu75to03chuckbeatty]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/through-the-bubble-lilis-adventures-in-scientologyland-part-16/#comment-483595">Lili R</a>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m Chuck,<br />
xTeamXenu75to03chuckbeatty</p>
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		By: Richard		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 May 2022 14:40:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I did quite a bit of training and co-auditing at ASHO in Los Angeles in the mid to late 1970&#039;s and in my recollection it was rare to see anyone in a sea org uniform walking around in the public areas. I guess they were busy behind the scenes and in that time period Hubbard was probably making enough money so he could ramp up his fake navy and by the 1980&#039;s he was able to send out &quot;missionaries&quot; to reign in all the squirrels out in the wild wild west of missions.

I don&#039;t remember exactly how but somehow I met a sea org woman and dated her for about two months but she was more interested in the sea org than in me so it didn&#039;t work out. Always a lot of attention units back on the job.Oh well.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did quite a bit of training and co-auditing at ASHO in Los Angeles in the mid to late 1970&#8217;s and in my recollection it was rare to see anyone in a sea org uniform walking around in the public areas. I guess they were busy behind the scenes and in that time period Hubbard was probably making enough money so he could ramp up his fake navy and by the 1980&#8217;s he was able to send out &#8220;missionaries&#8221; to reign in all the squirrels out in the wild wild west of missions.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t remember exactly how but somehow I met a sea org woman and dated her for about two months but she was more interested in the sea org than in me so it didn&#8217;t work out. Always a lot of attention units back on the job.Oh well.</p>
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		By: Lili R		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/through-the-bubble-lilis-adventures-in-scientologyland-part-16/#comment-483595</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lili R]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 May 2022 05:04:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/through-the-bubble-lilis-adventures-in-scientologyland-part-16/#comment-483527&quot;&gt;xTeamXenu75to03chuckbeatty&lt;/a&gt;.

Fred, you&#039;re right about the multi tiered management mess of too many staff. 
And your description of what we were doing while in and we didn&#039;t know,  is just spot on.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/through-the-bubble-lilis-adventures-in-scientologyland-part-16/#comment-483527">xTeamXenu75to03chuckbeatty</a>.</p>
<p>Fred, you&#8217;re right about the multi tiered management mess of too many staff.<br />
And your description of what we were doing while in and we didn&#8217;t know,  is just spot on.</p>
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		By: Lili R		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lili R]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 May 2022 04:58:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/through-the-bubble-lilis-adventures-in-scientologyland-part-16/#comment-483559&quot;&gt;Imaberrated&lt;/a&gt;.

It seems like the higher ups benefited from making you feel like scum. I think we felt pretty inferior at our org. Like other orgs flourished while we kept failing. 
I think you nailed it about most orgs barely making it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/through-the-bubble-lilis-adventures-in-scientologyland-part-16/#comment-483559">Imaberrated</a>.</p>
<p>It seems like the higher ups benefited from making you feel like scum. I think we felt pretty inferior at our org. Like other orgs flourished while we kept failing.<br />
I think you nailed it about most orgs barely making it.</p>
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		By: Imaberrated		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Imaberrated]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 May 2022 23:07:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I’m glad to read about the finance troubles in this org. In my org, we never made enough money to pay the rent. We simply didn’t pay, and had a backlog. Then CLO bailed us out for months. We all thought we were worthless scum, and the only org that had this problem.

After getting out of Scientology, it seemed to me that this would have been the case for most orgs.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’m glad to read about the finance troubles in this org. In my org, we never made enough money to pay the rent. We simply didn’t pay, and had a backlog. Then CLO bailed us out for months. We all thought we were worthless scum, and the only org that had this problem.</p>
<p>After getting out of Scientology, it seemed to me that this would have been the case for most orgs.</p>
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		By: Fred G. Haseney		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fred G. Haseney]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 May 2022 18:41:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I hope Body Routers in Los Angeles read this blog. I&#039;m taking about Sea Org Body Routers, staff members at Los Angeles Org who have signed Billion Year Contracts to serve Hubbard and his cherch. For any Body Routers reading this, I want you to really get just how scummy your &quot;post&quot; is. It&#039;s so low on the totem pole that Staffers in Outer Orgs wouldn&#039;t wish your job on their worst enemy.

In 2016, a Staff Member at Los Angeles Org lied to a judge in order for a Temporary Restraining Order to be placed against me. That&#039;s how low and disgusting a &quot; post&quot; in the Sea Org is, especially one at your Org.

You&#039;re not saving the planet, dear Sea Org member. You&#039;re not Clearing the planet. All you&#039;re do is reaffirming your &quot; certainty&quot; that Scientology is the only thing that&#039;ll save every man, woman and child on Earth. Dear Sea Org Member: do yourself a big favor and BLOW today.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope Body Routers in Los Angeles read this blog. I&#8217;m taking about Sea Org Body Routers, staff members at Los Angeles Org who have signed Billion Year Contracts to serve Hubbard and his cherch. For any Body Routers reading this, I want you to really get just how scummy your &#8220;post&#8221; is. It&#8217;s so low on the totem pole that Staffers in Outer Orgs wouldn&#8217;t wish your job on their worst enemy.</p>
<p>In 2016, a Staff Member at Los Angeles Org lied to a judge in order for a Temporary Restraining Order to be placed against me. That&#8217;s how low and disgusting a &#8221; post&#8221; in the Sea Org is, especially one at your Org.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re not saving the planet, dear Sea Org member. You&#8217;re not Clearing the planet. All you&#8217;re do is reaffirming your &#8221; certainty&#8221; that Scientology is the only thing that&#8217;ll save every man, woman and child on Earth. Dear Sea Org Member: do yourself a big favor and BLOW today.</p>
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		By: otherles		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[otherles]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 May 2022 15:54:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[When reading about the sea of depravity of Scientology I must remember to come up for air.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When reading about the sea of depravity of Scientology I must remember to come up for air.</p>
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		By: xTeamXenu75to03chuckbeatty		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[xTeamXenu75to03chuckbeatty]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 May 2022 14:08:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Competing &quot;Chiropractor Colleges&quot; level of operation, is what is naturally coming of Scientology&#039;s megalomania Hubbard dreams.  

And when the public know what is taught in the &quot;Chiropractor sized &quot;Colleges&quot; of Scientology&quot; is about, which is pseudo-therapist training and exorcist training, then this quickly shows the true size and demand for the Hubbard Scientology &quot;tech.&quot;   (&quot;tech&quot; of Scientology being the pseudo-therapy and the exorcism, and the theory behind it).

Soul karma trauma pseudo-therapy and exorcism; that&#039;s Scientology honestly.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Competing &#8220;Chiropractor Colleges&#8221; level of operation, is what is naturally coming of Scientology&#8217;s megalomania Hubbard dreams.  </p>
<p>And when the public know what is taught in the &#8220;Chiropractor sized &#8220;Colleges&#8221; of Scientology&#8221; is about, which is pseudo-therapist training and exorcist training, then this quickly shows the true size and demand for the Hubbard Scientology &#8220;tech.&#8221;   (&#8220;tech&#8221; of Scientology being the pseudo-therapy and the exorcism, and the theory behind it).</p>
<p>Soul karma trauma pseudo-therapy and exorcism; that&#8217;s Scientology honestly.</p>
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		By: xTeamXenu75to03chuckbeatty		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[xTeamXenu75to03chuckbeatty]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 May 2022 14:03:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;One of the Successful Actions used by Sea Org Upper Management was to carefully isolate what the right hand was doing from the left. That way, no Sea Org workers were ever Responsible for the fallout from their toxic program execution. ...&quot;    from above.

It&#039;s even more basic.   Hubbard&#039;s megalomania was unchecked, he is the one who built the bureaucracy and it stretched out to match Hubbard&#039;s mind, which was ill.   

All the faults trace to Hubbard&#039;s &quot;laundry&quot; problems.  &quot;Taking In One&#039;s Own Laundry&quot; system built by a megalomaniac who saw himself as a planet hopping &quot;Master&quot; come to earth to give earth the &quot;tech&quot; (quackery pseudo-therapy and quackery exorcism is what Scientology&#039;s &quot;tech&quot; is) to solve humanity&#039;s problems.  

The bureaucracy of Scientology is all on Hubbard.   Sea Org members are only do or die in their following Hubbard&#039;s megalomania Walter Mitty/George Jetson debris causing actions.   

The biggest why, is Hubbard&#039;s ill mental health which  is stitched into all the &quot;source&quot;syllabus writings of the movement multi tiered running and maintenance.   The over stretched  big Scientology bureaucracy cannot ever work as Hubbard falsely promises.  

Scientologists are left an impossible game plan by megalomaniac Hubbard.

When you left holding the bag dreamed up by a megalomaniac, you really are in for it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;One of the Successful Actions used by Sea Org Upper Management was to carefully isolate what the right hand was doing from the left. That way, no Sea Org workers were ever Responsible for the fallout from their toxic program execution. &#8230;&#8221;    from above.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s even more basic.   Hubbard&#8217;s megalomania was unchecked, he is the one who built the bureaucracy and it stretched out to match Hubbard&#8217;s mind, which was ill.   </p>
<p>All the faults trace to Hubbard&#8217;s &#8220;laundry&#8221; problems.  &#8220;Taking In One&#8217;s Own Laundry&#8221; system built by a megalomaniac who saw himself as a planet hopping &#8220;Master&#8221; come to earth to give earth the &#8220;tech&#8221; (quackery pseudo-therapy and quackery exorcism is what Scientology&#8217;s &#8220;tech&#8221; is) to solve humanity&#8217;s problems.  </p>
<p>The bureaucracy of Scientology is all on Hubbard.   Sea Org members are only do or die in their following Hubbard&#8217;s megalomania Walter Mitty/George Jetson debris causing actions.   </p>
<p>The biggest why, is Hubbard&#8217;s ill mental health which  is stitched into all the &#8220;source&#8221;syllabus writings of the movement multi tiered running and maintenance.   The over stretched  big Scientology bureaucracy cannot ever work as Hubbard falsely promises.  </p>
<p>Scientologists are left an impossible game plan by megalomaniac Hubbard.</p>
<p>When you left holding the bag dreamed up by a megalomaniac, you really are in for it.</p>
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