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	Comments on: Through the Bubble &#8211; Lili&#8217;s Adventures in Scientologyland Part 20	</title>
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		By: Fred Haseney		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fred Haseney]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jun 2022 12:23:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/through-the-bubble-lilis-adventures-in-scientologyland-part-20/#comment-487105&quot;&gt;Mike Rinder&lt;/a&gt;.

My pleasure, Mike.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/through-the-bubble-lilis-adventures-in-scientologyland-part-20/#comment-487105">Mike Rinder</a>.</p>
<p>My pleasure, Mike.</p>
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		By: Mike Rinder		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Rinder]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jun 2022 02:57:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/through-the-bubble-lilis-adventures-in-scientologyland-part-20/#comment-487081&quot;&gt;Fred G. Haseney&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you so much for your generous donation to the Aftermath Foundation. It will be put to good use.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/through-the-bubble-lilis-adventures-in-scientologyland-part-20/#comment-487081">Fred G. Haseney</a>.</p>
<p>Thank you so much for your generous donation to the Aftermath Foundation. It will be put to good use.</p>
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		By: Fred G. Haseney		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fred G. Haseney]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jun 2022 21:33:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/through-the-bubble-lilis-adventures-in-scientologyland-part-20/#comment-487078&quot;&gt;Fred G. Haseney&lt;/a&gt;.

Correction: I haven&#039;t had a single headache since April 1979.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/through-the-bubble-lilis-adventures-in-scientologyland-part-20/#comment-487078">Fred G. Haseney</a>.</p>
<p>Correction: I haven&#8217;t had a single headache since April 1979.</p>
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		By: Fred G. Haseney		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fred G. Haseney]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jun 2022 21:26:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/through-the-bubble-lilis-adventures-in-scientologyland-part-20/#comment-486978&quot;&gt;Lily R&lt;/a&gt;.

I&#039;ve read that Scientologists often have their biggest wins early on. That&#039;s my story: two years into Scientology, all the bad migraines I&#039;d experienced this lifetime blew during... an assessment. It gave the &quot;No Interference Zone&quot; a whole new meaning. I haven&#039;t had a single headache since April 1978.

Thank, Lily R, for pointing out the fact that Scientology, after 37 years of dedication to their cause, no longer benefits from my contribution. From 2013 to 2015, I washed dishes almost every evening at a soup kitchen that sits a block away from &quot;Big Blue&quot; -- PAC Base in Los Angeles. The experience helped reunite me with my Christian upbringing.

In addition, I&#039;d go to the corner of Sunset Blvd. and Vermont Ave. and observe Body Routers who couldn&#039;t differentiate between people who they could dupe into going to Los Angeles Org and people who were hungry and just needed a place to stay. That difference can sometimes be a fine line, yes, but you have to look in order to see it. Looking involves compassion and understanding. Those BRs only wanted Bodies in the Shop.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/through-the-bubble-lilis-adventures-in-scientologyland-part-20/#comment-486978">Lily R</a>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve read that Scientologists often have their biggest wins early on. That&#8217;s my story: two years into Scientology, all the bad migraines I&#8217;d experienced this lifetime blew during&#8230; an assessment. It gave the &#8220;No Interference Zone&#8221; a whole new meaning. I haven&#8217;t had a single headache since April 1978.</p>
<p>Thank, Lily R, for pointing out the fact that Scientology, after 37 years of dedication to their cause, no longer benefits from my contribution. From 2013 to 2015, I washed dishes almost every evening at a soup kitchen that sits a block away from &#8220;Big Blue&#8221; &#8212; PAC Base in Los Angeles. The experience helped reunite me with my Christian upbringing.</p>
<p>In addition, I&#8217;d go to the corner of Sunset Blvd. and Vermont Ave. and observe Body Routers who couldn&#8217;t differentiate between people who they could dupe into going to Los Angeles Org and people who were hungry and just needed a place to stay. That difference can sometimes be a fine line, yes, but you have to look in order to see it. Looking involves compassion and understanding. Those BRs only wanted Bodies in the Shop.</p>
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		By: Fred G. Haseney		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fred G. Haseney]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jun 2022 21:07:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/through-the-bubble-lilis-adventures-in-scientologyland-part-20/#comment-486976&quot;&gt;ExScnStaff&lt;/a&gt;.

It&#039;s educational to be able to share what happened to us, the choices we made, etc. when we were in Scientology, ExScnStaff. Sometimes, it&#039;s an eye-opener.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/through-the-bubble-lilis-adventures-in-scientologyland-part-20/#comment-486976">ExScnStaff</a>.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s educational to be able to share what happened to us, the choices we made, etc. when we were in Scientology, ExScnStaff. Sometimes, it&#8217;s an eye-opener.</p>
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		By: Imaberrated		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Imaberrated]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jun 2022 01:07:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/through-the-bubble-lilis-adventures-in-scientologyland-part-20/#comment-486966&quot;&gt;Jere Lull&lt;/a&gt;.

In my case, being declared had the efficacious result that I’ve never received promo.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/through-the-bubble-lilis-adventures-in-scientologyland-part-20/#comment-486966">Jere Lull</a>.</p>
<p>In my case, being declared had the efficacious result that I’ve never received promo.</p>
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		By: Lily R		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/through-the-bubble-lilis-adventures-in-scientologyland-part-20/#comment-486978</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lily R]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jun 2022 22:35:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/through-the-bubble-lilis-adventures-in-scientologyland-part-20/#comment-486952&quot;&gt;Fred G. Haseney&lt;/a&gt;.

Fred, you are on the short list for longest time ever in the non-interference zone. 
That was quite a laundry list of postings. You were clearly a dedicated giver. I&#039;m so happy you get to give your good self to people who are not Scientologists.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/through-the-bubble-lilis-adventures-in-scientologyland-part-20/#comment-486952">Fred G. Haseney</a>.</p>
<p>Fred, you are on the short list for longest time ever in the non-interference zone.<br />
That was quite a laundry list of postings. You were clearly a dedicated giver. I&#8217;m so happy you get to give your good self to people who are not Scientologists.</p>
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		By: Lily R		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lily R]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jun 2022 22:30:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/through-the-bubble-lilis-adventures-in-scientologyland-part-20/#comment-486965&quot;&gt;Jere Lull&lt;/a&gt;.

Jere Lull, Sorry,  but that&#039;s way too logical. Keep the files where they belong?
Surely that&#039;s not necessary. This is Scientology, we have postulates and shit,  right?
I picture someone&#039;s Roomba chewing up the contents of the CF files as it robotically goes back and forth in thre corner of the Reg&#039;s office.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/through-the-bubble-lilis-adventures-in-scientologyland-part-20/#comment-486965">Jere Lull</a>.</p>
<p>Jere Lull, Sorry,  but that&#8217;s way too logical. Keep the files where they belong?<br />
Surely that&#8217;s not necessary. This is Scientology, we have postulates and shit,  right?<br />
I picture someone&#8217;s Roomba chewing up the contents of the CF files as it robotically goes back and forth in thre corner of the Reg&#8217;s office.</p>
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		By: ExScnStaff		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ExScnStaff]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jun 2022 22:27:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/through-the-bubble-lilis-adventures-in-scientologyland-part-20/#comment-486952&quot;&gt;Fred G. Haseney&lt;/a&gt;.

I actually pulled off the &quot;no forwarding address&quot; for a long while, and then the upper orgs apparently did something to try to get current addresses that gave them my home address.  

Bear in mind the only places that have my home address for mailing things are the landlord and utility companies.  All of my banks have a P.O. Box.  Which really says something scary about whatever sources of personal information they&#039;re using.  (The fact they have access to flight information to chase down runaways seconds that notion.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/through-the-bubble-lilis-adventures-in-scientologyland-part-20/#comment-486952">Fred G. Haseney</a>.</p>
<p>I actually pulled off the &#8220;no forwarding address&#8221; for a long while, and then the upper orgs apparently did something to try to get current addresses that gave them my home address.  </p>
<p>Bear in mind the only places that have my home address for mailing things are the landlord and utility companies.  All of my banks have a P.O. Box.  Which really says something scary about whatever sources of personal information they&#8217;re using.  (The fact they have access to flight information to chase down runaways seconds that notion.)</p>
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		By: Jere Lull		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jere Lull]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jun 2022 18:29:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Once I got myself kicked off the Land Base, there was no need to lie.  I was no longer a scientologist, and had done everything they could offer.  I WASN&#039;T INTERESTED<img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/2122.png" alt="™" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />.  And pretty soon had a never-in wife who delivered that message effectively when I couldn&#039;t get to the phone.  Later my lovely second wife took up the  cudgel of &quot;go AWAY!&quot;.  It&#039;s been a few years since any of the &quot;local&quot; orgs have called, that I know of.  It might have had something to do with a couple of replies to letters where I pleaded in no uncertain terms, for them to DEADFILE  me for a multitude of reasons including the lameness of the &quot;clear cognition&quot;, Xenu, and how horrible a student Dwarfenführer® had been as a new SO member.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once I got myself kicked off the Land Base, there was no need to lie.  I was no longer a scientologist, and had done everything they could offer.  I WASN&#8217;T INTERESTED™.  And pretty soon had a never-in wife who delivered that message effectively when I couldn&#8217;t get to the phone.  Later my lovely second wife took up the  cudgel of &#8220;go AWAY!&#8221;.  It&#8217;s been a few years since any of the &#8220;local&#8221; orgs have called, that I know of.  It might have had something to do with a couple of replies to letters where I pleaded in no uncertain terms, for them to DEADFILE  me for a multitude of reasons including the lameness of the &#8220;clear cognition&#8221;, Xenu, and how horrible a student Dwarfenführer® had been as a new SO member.</p>
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