GL,
Dude, way to make my day.
Lili

Jere Lull, I love that wording too. Good find!
Cooties were big in my elementary school days. You didn’t want those.

Waiting for the next episode.

The best plain-English descriptor of BTs I’ve run across is “invisible space alien cooties”.

I’m more thinking of the encyclopedias of the world which define Scientology and get them to include just adequate and proportional mention of the exorcism extensive part that makes up Scienotology.

No need to get too detailed, but just mention, at least, the significant amount of exorcism procedures Scientology undertakes in Scientology’s upper levels.

Since five of the eight upper levels of Scientology are exorcism, that might be adequate to at least state in the summary definition of Scientology by outside encyclopedias.

If an encyclopedia feels it needs to mention Xenu, just maybe neutral state Scientology believes an ancient space leader named Xenu is per Scientology the individual who caused on earth what the Scientologists call the 4th Dynamic Engram and the Wall of Fire, which resulted in surplus bodiless souls roaming earth and infesting humans for the last 75 million years. Scientology’s practices include extensive exorcism to remove these surplus souls which they believe infest all humans today.

Something like that.

Not for Scientologists to read, but for the public just so the public worldwide know what they will be getting into, in general, when they join official Scientology and try to do the full Hubbard syllabus, Bridge to Total Freedom.

I’ve read continuously all the encyclopedia definitions of Scientology from when I was a training course supervisor in the Scientology training course rooms, and I’ve always felt like the outside encyclopedias have not gotten Scientology proportionally accurately defined, and omitting the exorcism significant upper levels mainly.

Thanks so much, excellent response.

Do you think Hubbard laid the precaution a little bit so much that it prevents them fully defining simply Scientology? Meaning if Scientology can’t be open about their spiritual exorcism stuff, then how can they succeed in defining what they are?

And ex OT 7s and 8s ought to be the ones to lead some sort of hindsight simpler overall definition of their overall spiritual practices.

The exorcism levels have been left off the table from the Scientology definition, do you think?

The needling reactions are there.

But to me, still, in mainstream definitions of Scientology in all major encyclopedias worldwide, the OT 3 thru 7 steps which ought to be simpler summarized and added to Scientology’s definition, just isn’t there yet.

OT 7s and OT 8s have the credibility to make this change in world summary perception of what Scientology definition ought to fully include.

To me, it’s just add in that upper Scientology has extensive exorcism steps that go on for years for five exorcism levels.

Yikes – another MU, elevator pitch. I never heard of it before and thought it was a typo or something.

An elevator pitch, elevator speech, or elevator statement is a short description of an idea, product, or company that explains the concept in a way such that any listener can understand it in a short period of time. Wikipedia

I knew I had an MU (mis-understood) on syllabus but I disregarded it when I wrote the above comment.

syllabus – an outline or other brief statement of the main points of a discourse, the subjects of a course of lectures, the contents of a curriculum, etc.

below you wrote:

“never did the OT levels, but I have been absoutely consumed with the deeper flaws of all things Sea Org history and the theory of spiritual ideas out of Hubbard, and what the syllabus (the Bridge to Total Freedom is the syllabus simply of the whole shebang) all really means.

I have been consumed summarizing Scientology into an elevator pitch neutral definition of it. The OT levels 3 thru 7 elevator pitch especially.”
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So I guess you’re looking for a “neutral” way to describe the OT levels which would not immediately be rejected by a scientologist and bring them to understanding they are on a false path. If you or anyone else tells a scientologist the OT levels are quackery and spirit exorcism they would probably just reject it as entheta and think you don’t know what you’re talking about.

Thankyou Constantine, great breakdown. I’m glad that it didn’t soak you financially too badly.

Have you ever heard of “snipe hunting” it’s nicely defined on Wikipedia.

While I think Hubbard and followers did believe they might be communicating with little pesky surplus souls infesting everyone, it still to me, in hindsight might be called “unwittingly engaged in snipe hunting.” What do you think? And for that reason, I’d gladly refund ALL persons who after paying and doing this snipe hunting, if they had a change of heart, and changed their beliefs on these pesky “body-thetans” and decided they really were just imaginary snipes, as in the snipe hunting gags that boy scouts and girl scouts play on newbie scouts.

To me, if a person feels they’ve been taken, they have a valid leg to stand on.

Scientology’s exorcism snipe hunting isn’t proven or should never get a pass, honestly, and minimally, ex’s who did the exorcism/snipe hunting I do feel have every right to share their hindsight views of it.

Thanks alot!