Knowledgeism? Was that after the mission massacre?
Alan sounds like an interesting guy.

The reason they didn’t like Rich Dad Poor Dad was because Kiyosaki was into Knowlegism – Alan Walter’s ‘tech’ (Alan was the largest ever Scn mission holder in the world back in the 70’s. He was declared during the obliteration of the mission network back in 1982)

Lili, your experiences are so similar to mine. We also got that Kiyosaki game and loved it and played it with our kids to teach them. The supposed squirrel in his office was a female bookkeeper or CPA. The connection was not even close and yet they deemed all of Kiyosaki stuff bad and get rid of it, don’t do it and don’t be connected. Ridiculous. They think getting “bad” people out of your life will save you and yet they don’t want you seeing doctors much, and don’t mention how you have to eat right, exercise and sleep enough to ward off illness. To them it is just find the boogie man to become well or prevent illness.

If you’re in LA or the Valley let’s meet up. Or I might come to Santa Barbara and we can meet up.

Cindy, I’m still here in old SB.
I remember watching the Secret and digging it.
The forbidden books and the Secret video, I found out about each one from another Scientologist.
Finding out that Ron had plagiarized so much stuff and that wiser minds had come up with better worded versions of many of his quotes just blew my mind.
Ron the genius, had been beaten into my mind from the very earliest hours of my imprisonment in the cult of belief.
In Rich Dad, Poor Dad land, I bought the Cash Flow 101 game and were playing it with Lorna and Deave when the word came down that all things Rich Dad Poor Dad were suppressive or some overreactive crap.
We loved that game. We played it with our son Van. It opened the door for some great conversation about financial literacy. And to this day he’s always been really smart about money.
But like a good little Ron bot I took my shiny well-cared-for game that I loved and gave it to a non Scientology friend who was a gog and grateful.
Guy K should win an award for that great board game. Especially the part where if you hit the square where you got a divorce you were so financially screwed.
I can picture the tiny tyke spending insane amounts of money that scientologists scraped and suffered for in chasing down Guy Kiyosaki’s connection to Scientology. Luckily I heard about the prohibition before the big ethics crackdown chased through everybody’s house looking through everybody’s bookcases.

Hi Lili, Yes all sorts of stuff came and went, and it was all ridiculous. I also was into Rich Dad Poor Dad and got written up for reading it and playing the board game from it. No one could find any record of him attending any org or mission anywhere, so it could not be proved it was squirrel. But then my CS friend triumphantly came back and said well, it was found that a colleague of his did briefly attend some org or something and they traced it back to he was connected to her and if you’re connected to him by reading, blah blah blah. It’s amazing how many rungs down a tree they’ll go to prove you are PTS, even if you show no signs of it.

The other hobby horse was reading “The Secret.” That will get you in trouble. When we were drinking the Kool Aid we always thought people stole from Ron. Come to find out after I got out, that it was more likely the other way around, that Ron stole ideas from them and made it look like he discovered it.

Lili are you still living in Santa Barbara? I like reading your account of your time in Scn in the serial each week.

Wow, Cindy, you have awesome stories! I remember a six-month check where the freakout was people reading The Gods of Eden. I was hooked so I read it in secret.
It had stuff from the time track that sounded like someone was in Scientology who wrote it.
Another Flag ethics freak out was reading Rich Dad Poor Dad by Guy Kiyosaki. It had a version of Be Do Have in it. Guy had clearly spent time in Scientology. I read a bunch of his books. Including after the ban.
I missed the masterbation thing. I like that stranger helping you.

OMG.
Never heard of anyone else having that experience.
Nice to know Cindy.
Thanks

Glenn

Fred, hats off for funny comment of the day

Cindy, you sound like a super fun person. I’m thinking your sweetie didn’t take your advice.
That guy that bought two intensives for his wife was deep in the steaming pile of belief.
I remember signing Liability Formulas. Some folks didn’t know you could be vague and wrote up affairs had, how many times they had sex with the lady they had the affair with, etc. I told one person, “they won’t make you be so specific. I recommend you write a more vague summary like, ‘I had an affair, it’s over, I regret it, my wife forgave me and now I wish to rejoin the group.’ And that should do it. This is super personal stuff and it’s nobody’s business.” The guy thanked me and looked a lot less cowed. Then I spoiled it and said, “Please don’t tell your Ethics Officer who I am or what I said.”