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		By: Phillip		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Phillip]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Sep 2022 07:12:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Lili, (Lily?)

I enjoyed reading your story.  

Thank you for sharing.

Good luck to you and yours.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lili, (Lily?)</p>
<p>I enjoyed reading your story.  </p>
<p>Thank you for sharing.</p>
<p>Good luck to you and yours.</p>
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		By: John Doe		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Doe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2022 21:11:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/through-the-bubble-lilis-adventures-in-scientologyland-part-28-the-end/#comment-494612&quot;&gt;Lili R&lt;/a&gt;.

Your story reminded me of one little ironic nugget: back when I was in the cherch, I never talked to anyone in the larger world about it.

It was only after I left in mind anyway, that I unexpectedly felt more comfortable answering peoples questions about it because I could tell the fucking truth! I never had to defend anymore I just said what was and people were remarkably warm and open to what I had to say. And all of them were glad that I had overcome my affiliation with that group. 

But none so much as me, ha!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/through-the-bubble-lilis-adventures-in-scientologyland-part-28-the-end/#comment-494612">Lili R</a>.</p>
<p>Your story reminded me of one little ironic nugget: back when I was in the cherch, I never talked to anyone in the larger world about it.</p>
<p>It was only after I left in mind anyway, that I unexpectedly felt more comfortable answering peoples questions about it because I could tell the fucking truth! I never had to defend anymore I just said what was and people were remarkably warm and open to what I had to say. And all of them were glad that I had overcome my affiliation with that group. </p>
<p>But none so much as me, ha!</p>
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		By: Constantine		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Constantine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2022 20:26:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/through-the-bubble-lilis-adventures-in-scientologyland-part-28-the-end/#comment-494769&quot;&gt;Lily R&lt;/a&gt;.

U Rock. That&#039;s a great list.  Mine is not quite so energetic. 

  Hubbard was good fiction and SciFi writer but horrible philosopher who lied all the time and let his own delusions and cruelty hurt so many people.  I&#039;m just glad most of us have had the courage to get out and lead a new chapter in our lives.  This new chapter is soooo much better than the cult stuff.  Mike&#039;s blog gives so many people a chance to learn the truth behind the manipulation.  Your story was a very good look at the journey in, and then out to freedom.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/through-the-bubble-lilis-adventures-in-scientologyland-part-28-the-end/#comment-494769">Lily R</a>.</p>
<p>U Rock. That&#8217;s a great list.  Mine is not quite so energetic. </p>
<p>  Hubbard was good fiction and SciFi writer but horrible philosopher who lied all the time and let his own delusions and cruelty hurt so many people.  I&#8217;m just glad most of us have had the courage to get out and lead a new chapter in our lives.  This new chapter is soooo much better than the cult stuff.  Mike&#8217;s blog gives so many people a chance to learn the truth behind the manipulation.  Your story was a very good look at the journey in, and then out to freedom.</p>
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		By: Lily R		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lily R]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2022 15:36:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/through-the-bubble-lilis-adventures-in-scientologyland-part-28-the-end/#comment-494414&quot;&gt;Constantine&lt;/a&gt;.

Constantine, I just re-read your comment and loved your kind words. I encourage you to write your words. I&#039;m sorry you still have family who are &#039;in.&#039; That is so sad and I know a number of &#039;out&#039; people with family still in. Some are UTR. 
Your viewpoint and possible enforced lying to keep the peace would offer another view of what it&#039;s like to be &#039;out&#039; but not public about it.
I think it&#039;s heartbreaking to be in love with someone who&#039;s hooked on a bad idea. I lost two friends during the Pandemic, not to Covid (though it could have happened since they opted to ignore the vaccine) who decided that Q was a more compelling game than reality. Conversations that I used to ignore about contrails and the effectiveness of shark cartilage and herbs to re-write your DNA, gave way to carpet bomb emails with a dozen links to crazytown and follow-up phone calls to &#039;discuss.&#039; 
I already spent years trying to make sense of LRH&#039;s pronouncements, I wasn&#039;t going to trade that in for Q conspiracy. Nope, I&#039;m going all in on Critical Thinking, Science, Tolerance, Love, and mountain biking.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/through-the-bubble-lilis-adventures-in-scientologyland-part-28-the-end/#comment-494414">Constantine</a>.</p>
<p>Constantine, I just re-read your comment and loved your kind words. I encourage you to write your words. I&#8217;m sorry you still have family who are &#8216;in.&#8217; That is so sad and I know a number of &#8216;out&#8217; people with family still in. Some are UTR.<br />
Your viewpoint and possible enforced lying to keep the peace would offer another view of what it&#8217;s like to be &#8216;out&#8217; but not public about it.<br />
I think it&#8217;s heartbreaking to be in love with someone who&#8217;s hooked on a bad idea. I lost two friends during the Pandemic, not to Covid (though it could have happened since they opted to ignore the vaccine) who decided that Q was a more compelling game than reality. Conversations that I used to ignore about contrails and the effectiveness of shark cartilage and herbs to re-write your DNA, gave way to carpet bomb emails with a dozen links to crazytown and follow-up phone calls to &#8216;discuss.&#8217;<br />
I already spent years trying to make sense of LRH&#8217;s pronouncements, I wasn&#8217;t going to trade that in for Q conspiracy. Nope, I&#8217;m going all in on Critical Thinking, Science, Tolerance, Love, and mountain biking.</p>
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		By: Lily R		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lily R]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2022 15:22:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/through-the-bubble-lilis-adventures-in-scientologyland-part-28-the-end/#comment-494647&quot;&gt;John Doe&lt;/a&gt;.

John Doe, I encourage you to put pen to paper, or fingers to keys. Let your thoughts and memories fly out. You can correct the spelling later and wipe the spit off the page at your leisure. Writing these experiences down was cathartic. 
I imagine your stories of things you liked and things that were unbearable will resonate with your fellow freed beings. 
I&#039;m an undeclared special person, I guess they were economizing on goldenrod when I ducked away. Telling my story and having people read it and tell their stories in the comments about their experiences and observations was a warmth to my heart.
I look forward to seeing your stories.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/through-the-bubble-lilis-adventures-in-scientologyland-part-28-the-end/#comment-494647">John Doe</a>.</p>
<p>John Doe, I encourage you to put pen to paper, or fingers to keys. Let your thoughts and memories fly out. You can correct the spelling later and wipe the spit off the page at your leisure. Writing these experiences down was cathartic.<br />
I imagine your stories of things you liked and things that were unbearable will resonate with your fellow freed beings.<br />
I&#8217;m an undeclared special person, I guess they were economizing on goldenrod when I ducked away. Telling my story and having people read it and tell their stories in the comments about their experiences and observations was a warmth to my heart.<br />
I look forward to seeing your stories.</p>
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		By: grisianfarce		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2022 14:39:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thank you Lili for telling us your story. I think you&#039;ve perfectly captured the bind of how their idea of Self Determinism mutates into Everything Is Your Fault.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Lili for telling us your story. I think you&#8217;ve perfectly captured the bind of how their idea of Self Determinism mutates into Everything Is Your Fault.</p>
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		By: Alex de Valera		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alex de Valera]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2022 08:31:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/through-the-bubble-lilis-adventures-in-scientologyland-part-28-the-end/#comment-494400&quot;&gt;Samuel T. Alter&lt;/a&gt;.

I understand your point, sometimes it is good to have a distraction, to stray from a straight line that takes you from a to b. Lilîs story is a pause and personality I enjoyed it very much. I loved the content and the style of it. As far as outlawing the cult of greed, I don’t thilk it is possible in a free society. Revoking the tax exemption has already been done and that would certainly contribute to its demise but, I wouldn’t be surprised if the cult had more money in reserves than the Justice Department of the US and an armada of attorneys and researchers to look into every nook and cranny of the law. They also have subtle ways of overturning people like they did with Hubbard’s son or more recently with Marty Rathbun. No maffia organisation has a multi blind curtains to avoid responsibility. The Taliban said : “You have the watches but we have the time”. The cult of greed will shrink and rot to its death anyway. It’s just a matter of time.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/through-the-bubble-lilis-adventures-in-scientologyland-part-28-the-end/#comment-494400">Samuel T. Alter</a>.</p>
<p>I understand your point, sometimes it is good to have a distraction, to stray from a straight line that takes you from a to b. Lilîs story is a pause and personality I enjoyed it very much. I loved the content and the style of it. As far as outlawing the cult of greed, I don’t thilk it is possible in a free society. Revoking the tax exemption has already been done and that would certainly contribute to its demise but, I wouldn’t be surprised if the cult had more money in reserves than the Justice Department of the US and an armada of attorneys and researchers to look into every nook and cranny of the law. They also have subtle ways of overturning people like they did with Hubbard’s son or more recently with Marty Rathbun. No maffia organisation has a multi blind curtains to avoid responsibility. The Taliban said : “You have the watches but we have the time”. The cult of greed will shrink and rot to its death anyway. It’s just a matter of time.</p>
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		By: unelectedfloofgoofer		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2022 00:58:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Excellent overview about what life in the cult was and is like! It&#039;s like a mindless machine that slowly grinds up everyone who gets caught in its mechanism.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent overview about what life in the cult was and is like! It&#8217;s like a mindless machine that slowly grinds up everyone who gets caught in its mechanism.</p>
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		By: unelectedfloofgoofer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[unelectedfloofgoofer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2022 00:52:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/through-the-bubble-lilis-adventures-in-scientologyland-part-28-the-end/#comment-494400&quot;&gt;Samuel T. Alter&lt;/a&gt;.

Most blog visitors here probably don&#039;t think the cult as a whole should be &quot;outlawed&quot;, Samuel T. Alter, anymore than the Freezone should be outlawed.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/through-the-bubble-lilis-adventures-in-scientologyland-part-28-the-end/#comment-494400">Samuel T. Alter</a>.</p>
<p>Most blog visitors here probably don&#8217;t think the cult as a whole should be &#8220;outlawed&#8221;, Samuel T. Alter, anymore than the Freezone should be outlawed.</p>
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		By: John Doe		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Doe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Aug 2022 21:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thank you for telling your story! I read every episode and I’m glad you’ve come back into the light-filled larger world. 

I’ve noticed it’s been ten-years since I’ve been declared a Special Person. Well, maybe it’s ten years, don’t quite recall the year.

I never could be bothered to go read my goldenrod. 

Very few people in the real world give a shit about one’s status as a human being as defined by scientology. And those that are interested think an SP declare is a badge of honor!

There are a couple of things I have to say about my experiences in the cherch and your writing has inspired me to do it, so my thanks to you!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for telling your story! I read every episode and I’m glad you’ve come back into the light-filled larger world. </p>
<p>I’ve noticed it’s been ten-years since I’ve been declared a Special Person. Well, maybe it’s ten years, don’t quite recall the year.</p>
<p>I never could be bothered to go read my goldenrod. </p>
<p>Very few people in the real world give a shit about one’s status as a human being as defined by scientology. And those that are interested think an SP declare is a badge of honor!</p>
<p>There are a couple of things I have to say about my experiences in the cherch and your writing has inspired me to do it, so my thanks to you!</p>
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