I think so too Lone Star, that’s such a sad story, and I am afraid it’s very common, when an elderly person who has given their life to service for Scientology and has no close family members to rely on, no care is given to them in their old age. It’s so distressing,

I wish one of the large donors who give millions would instead put their donation into creating a fund to help these elderly people. It’s just not right how the elderly and disabled are treated.

But what can anyone do when the head of the Church of Scientology said about his own elderly father: “don’t help him, if he dies, he dies”.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3147308/Father-Church-Scientology-leade.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3562303/David-Miscavige-named-police-SUSPECT-investigation-private-detective-caught-spying-Scientology-leader-s-father-Ron-vast-arsenal-weapons-including-9mm-Glock-laser-site-two-rifles-stun-gun.html

Lone Star, that is such a sad story, yet it captures the essence of scientology. Imagine a world where scientology runs everything? I shudder to think about what a cruel and brutal place that would be… with everyone writing KR’s on each other, and with rude little teenagers barking orders at sixty year old men and women.

LRH can take his lunatic writings with him into the grave, as far as I am concerned. The world would have been a better place if scientology had never been hatched from his narcissistic little brain.

Yes, Peacemaker, very interesting.

Also the one youngster at Tampa org looks like a really young Gene Wilder. Wonder if he’s as funny.

Finally, that poem…?It’s very telling in admitting they show up 5min prior to closing time to buy party favorites…no planning? And, the funniest is also admitting ppl hang up on them during phone solicitations….haha…terrible poem.

Yes how hypocritical for them to “stand up for elder rights”. I witnessed firsthand what the SO does to aging staffers when they start to become sick and unable to be “productive” any longer. They get offloaded with no financial help. Certainly no pension. This one lady was sent halfway across the country from FLAG to live in Texas and work for a Scientologist business owner. The offloaded SO lady was not really that old. I think she was in her very early 60s, but she had some health problems including severe allergies. The Scilon business owner here in Texas treated her just as badly as I imagine she was treated in the SO. Yelled at. Belittled. After a few years of this she just dropped dead in her little apartment one day. I don’t even know if a funeral was performed for her. What an ending to a lifetime of service to Scientology.

Oh well….I guess she just didn’t take responsibility for her case. You know those assholes think this.

Spike, the basic principles you talk about there, are fundamentals that I’ve seen in military training approaches – I don’t know the history of that, but it probably goes back to Hubbard’s era of Navy service, especially the hands-on part.

Alan Walter said that Hubbard got most of the study tech from a pair of teachers, whose work went back to the 1920s. I would guess it’s all based on principles from early 20th century industrial training, and adaptations by the military – but academia has never liked such practical and vocational approaches, and so it would be easy to go through school without realizing that such teaching and training techniques have actually long been out there.

Hi Richard, thanks for that. As someone who has been an adult trainer for almost 30 years (post-Scn), I find some of the study tech has been very useful over the years with my groups. Especially avoiding special terms, acronyms etc. when training someone on a new subject. These would become ‘misunderstood words’ and you promptly lose the person. Not skipping gradients – also very key. Having the mass – hands on training is very important, e.g.doing an exercise on the computer instead of listening to a lecture on how to do it.

What I would never do is come at someone with a rote ‘what do your materials state?’.

Lots of other useful study techniques are out there which blend with the above points.

All presidents and politicians say they want to”expand and improve” education. It just depends on how much education they want to give away for free or encourage students to borrow their way through it.

Just now looked it up on Wikipedia and you’re right, Cindy. Casey Casem did die in 2014.

Incidentally, OSD, I actually got to meet Chill E B when I was on staff at Nashville Org. Talk about being huge! And I mean physically! He was there for (what else?) a fundraiser. I excitedly blurted out some song I had thought up about CCHR helping black people in poverty. For some reason, I don’t think he liked that very well.