Frodis73. This is from clinical trials over the last year. NEW extracts from the plant. It was on major news outlets about 2 months ago.

You are referring to OLD data.

“Huh. The Indie movement makes herding cats look like a walk in the park.”

Haha, yes indeed, Bruce!!

“Somebody would have to do some actual research to make an Indie movement that stuck together. If you just try to ‘follow Hubbard’ it quickly becomes a matter of ‘wich Hubbard?’ because he changed his story so often.”

I don’t think that an Indie movement will ever stick together, Bruce. Not one based on strictly KSW principles, and certainly not one based on the “squirrel version” (Captain Bill Robertson’s stuff – Freezoners). IMHO, we can only organize based on consistency of principles which Scn never had.

“I know of four completely different and conflicting explanations for how the meter works, for example. All completely bogus. To find out the real story you would have to do real neurological and biophysics research. At which point you would rapidly discover that Hubbard was blowing smoke.”

Yes indeed! I personally think that LRH had more than enough brains to have become a great researcher. But blinded by delusions, he sacrificed scientific methodology in order to satisfy his pathological narcissism.

“Far safer to just reject the whole subject and then do own your studies in the real world on those parts that interest you.”

Yes indeed, Bruce! That’s exactly the path that I followed; starting from scratch.

“Hubbard often quoted other authors, often without credit, so not everything he said was false. But it was often distorted or given false importance even when he did impart facts. And of course he could only quote information that was current at the time. A lot of real research has been done about the brain and so on that he never knew because he died in ’86.”

Most, if not everything, from LRH was copy-pasted from earlier works. I haven’t found nothing original in Scn, except perhaps the subject of “repetitive processes” to bring about an awareness of an existing condition (the “cognition”). And even that is not a good healing strategy because people have different levels of awareness and thus, these “cognitions” make take some people a few hours (or even less than an hour) to get them, but it might take others months and even years to have them. In others words, “One size doesn’t fit them all”. But LRH wanted to create a set of processes (the “Bridge”) that fitted all sizes, which is of course, impossible.

I found this old video which shows even in a more conclusive way, the insanity with which LRH was plagued. These KSW supporters and the Scn sympathizers should watch it :

https://youtu.be/-4HI3KYlFag

I’d contribute to that GoFundMe… one square of toilet paper with LRH’s grotesque visage, and the next square with Miscavige’s penetrating mug, complete with alcohol yellow eyes and steroid yellow skin. God those men are gross specimens, aren’t they ladies?

What city and state are you in?

You’re right, Balletlady and thanks for spotting that.

Taking another page from Co$’s playbook, yes, koolaid will be served,at no charge, and it will be unlimited. Ditto the baloney.

Have you been confirmed?

Wynski-
Actually, for some folks THC in tablet form does work…not so much for others, the majority actually. Even w/out the Rx tablets it can be ingested in other ways.
Also, didn’t Hubbard write that MJ was less harmful than alcohol in one of this books? It was one of the times he was correct. Scientologists always seem to ignore that.

You surprised me with this one Aqua – good girl! Still chuckling…

Dearest Aqua……I don’t see any liquid refreshments mentioned…….Is there a charge for the Kool Aid….I didn’t see that noted.

“Thanks for that TC! It is ironic that the FIRST thing these idiots did was issue a squirrel grade chart. All the while spouting the KSW dogma. Proof that no matter what, organizing scientology is now an insane idea, that attracts the insane.”

Yes indeed, Wynski! I don’t know if you have ever seen this CBR’s Bridge (“Captain Bill Robertson”) and the actual processes/rundowns that comprise such bridge, but calling it insane is a big understatement, haha. I was able to get these “confidential” CBR stuff (almost all of it) so I am talking from facts, as in “I’ve read them”.

The insane thing is, that they – these Freezoners, I mean – consider themselves as “KSW followers” when in fact, CBR’s stuff isn’t LRH in any way, shape or form, except perhaps, in that they BOTH have the “BT phenomena” as part of the core of their “upper level” tech.

Of course, Captain-insane Bill Robertson was following LRH’s “telepathic” orders and instructions from “Target 2”, haha, so the Freezoners allege that CBR’s stuff is actually LRH and thus, not a “squirrel” tek

The big “mystery”, haha, is how these “super” beings capable of exteriorization; of “healing their bodies by handling from the “outside” the golden body’s “anchor points”; of handling the aggressive and hostile “BTs” (but now NEW ones operating independent of bodies) that are orbiting the planet in a hidden spaceship; of having finally handled Xenu (who had allegedly woke up from his million years long sleep/coma maintained by an “eternal battery”); of having achieved “OT 15” (in the case of LRH) and “OT 38” (in the case of CBR); DIED of body iillnesses while living a life of seclusion, hidden from “enemies”? I mean, weren’t they “super beings”?

Take a look a L. Kin’sThe Pied Pipers of Heaven”, and witness what delusion and insanity looks like :

http://freezoneearth.org/lkin/vol3.html

These people, both the Scientologists and the Freezoners (the squirrel version of Scn), thrive on this “confidentiality” aspect of the “tech”. This “mysterious” conspiracy that is planning to take this planet over by “Markabians lead by Lord Xemu (or is it “Xenu”?, Haha) who have woke up from his 75 millions years long sleep. After all, LRH DID said in his class 8 “confidential” lectures that the “eternal battery” that kept Xemu in coma would last 75 millions years, right? So it is logical to assume the he is free now and ready to take revenge against the one who imprisoned him (LRH as the leader of the “Loyal Officers”) 75 millions ago, and against his “pet society” – we little and aberrated and trapped humans, 😉

They leave the CofS, they continue to worship LRH in spite of ALL the evidence that LRH was nothing more than a sick delusional psycho; they attack anyone who are critical of LRH and Scn; they deny all the obvious evidence of the unworkability of Scn; they deny that no OT or Clear has EVER been brought about with Scn (not even a stable release); they don’t even want to read the well researched books like Jon Atack’s, Russell Miller’s, etc; they find out that Scn doesn’t have the answers regarding “OTness” that they had been looking for for so long; they turn to the CBR stuff and other Scn based versions of the Tek; they keep this “confidentiality” aura of grandiosity and superiority; they turn against each other with the petty and ridiculous fight concerning “KSW v/s CBR’s and squirrel versions”; they don’t support each other; they discoverer that EVERYTHING was a big LIE and a DELUSION and let go of Scn and LRH for good; or they become insane and come to this blog dramatizing (like I did, haha) “Why don’t we ‘save’ the ‘good’ parts of Scientology”?

Oh boy; I think that I am at boredom today, haha. Sorry for the rambling, 🙂

Just had a refreshing nap.

My head is so much clearer now.

By the way, you’re all invited to my place for dinner next Sunday.

Menu as follows:

Fresh Celery and Carrot Sticks
Herbed French Loaf w Fresh Roasted Minced Garlic*
Roasted Vegetable Salad*
Roast Prime Ribs of Beef*
Pan-Roasted Potatoes*
Steamed Green Beans w Lemon/Butter & Roasted Almonds *
Raspberry Jello

RSVP please! I am so looking forward to meeting each of you and being your hostess!

Sincerely,
Aqua

*There will be a charge for anything roasted.