i don’t see scientology out there doing anything, they’re not publicly doing anything outside of what scientology propaganda produces and sent into the echo chamber. Find me one third party article about scientology speaking out against banks, record grocery store profits. You have your own “leader” literally bastardizing what LRH wrote. Closing ORGS (High Crime), editing LRH’s publications. He doesn’t do anything publicly to push back against these issues. And DM has said he’s not interested in directly helping homeless people. Ted Koppel he literally says on there “We make the able more able, we don’t forget about those people” I don’t see many scientology soup kitchens with free auditing to help these lost souls address their trauma. Why? because they have no money. So please spare us all the lecture. How about you go see for yourself a little Genji Genbutsu as the Japanese say, visit all the ideal orgs….see the empty buildings for yourself. I’ve seen you post on here with these quite ridiculous posts. The thing you should be asking yourself, is why isn’t my church doing more to help these people, to clear them, and solve the problem? You may have cleared your reactive mind, but you’ve also lost your objectivity in evaluating evidence, or even asking yourself these questions. Learn the truth, take all of the information, attach it to the receipts. Start with LRH’s autopsy report, particularly the toxicology part.

@Suzie and Loosing,

IMO what they’re “uptone” and “enthusiastic” ABOUT is their own “certainty” that theIr “comm cycle” with you, with them being “tone 40” IN it, which is going to result in you buying something that they want you to buy, or agreeing to DO something (join staff, join the Sea Org, volunteer and be responsible for some activity )that they, with their “tone 40 intention” want you do do – its always one or more of these things. They’re never just talking to you because they like you and enjoy connecting for no particular reason. There is ALWAYS a reason. They ALWAYS want something from you. Every comm cycle has to have a PRODUCT, some kind of RESULT that helps or contributes to Scientology in some way. And iF a particular comm cycle does not result in a product for the cherch, then they consider it as a SUB-product, a product conducive to the eventual obtaining of a product (“I am BUILDING ARC with this person”). In brief, in the cult, staff, Sea Org and, eventually, even public, think of human relations in strictly transactional terms, and accordingly their communications are designed to achieve some specific product, whether immediately or at some point in the future. Its that intention, that “target” that they have in mind, regarding you, which juices them up and produces the enthusiasm. It isn’t enthusiasm for YOU. Rather, its enthusiasm for whatever it is that THEY are intending to achieve via you. You could be anyone and they would be just as “uptone” and “enthusiastic”. Its all very studied, and some of them – not all, plenty of them are not very good at this although they are drilled on it – but some of them ARE quite good at this, and if you’re susceptible and they’re good at it, you believe that they actually like you, care about you, are interested in you. Well, they don’t, and they’re not 🙂

Yes UTR means ‘under the radar’…

It is, Joe!

Re: “… do you see?”

Absolutely, Aquamarine!

Hi Fred,

You served the food, you didn’t cook it.
You joined the Sea Org because you had a strong purpose to help.
That pure, clean, strong, purpose was knowingly, calculatingly and cynically exploited by the Church of Scientology.
You were labeled “Degraded”?
A Degraded Being?

Isay, “So fucking what!!!

Fred, theoretically I’m not a Christian because I don’t believe in all the Christian magic pertaining to Jesus Christ in the New Testament. (I don’t believe in any of the Jewish magic in the Old Testament either).

But having said that, there’s wisdom in the Bible, I think. Something that Jesus Christ said resonates strongly with me: When he and his disciples were eating together he was criticised for eating with unclean hands. And he answered, and I’m paraphrasing, that it isn’t what goes INTO a man that makes him unclean, its what comes OUT of him that makes him unclean.

What came OUT of you, was, you wanted to help. You had good intentions, honest intentions. Ok, so you made mistakes, but they weren’t malicious mistakes. You wanted to do the right things. You tried. You gave it your all.
And that need, that desire, is the best part of you. And its stil there, Fred. Its like a pure, clear, spring that runs thru you. Nobody, no outside force can sully that. Nothing from the outside, no label, can make that inner part of you impure or dirty.

The degradation is the Church of Scientology’s. They degrade themselves by their own lies about their own actual purposes. They degrade themselves by exploiting sensitive, caring, well intentioned, idealistic youngsters with their lies.
They degrade themselves by betraying those who purely want to help. There isn’t any worse crime than exploiting the trust of those who unselfishly give of themselves in order to help.

As Christ was quoted as saying, “It is what comes out of the heart of a man that defiles him, that makes him unclean.”

The dirt and degradation are not yours, do you see?

Fred, I think it’s one block off of Coloradal.

Amusing rant. What, though, is a UTR? Only thing I thought of is ‘under the radar’, but from the context, that isn’t what you meant.

“Arabic Salad” for Passover….

I was just amazed they didn’t have ham on the menu.