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		By: MS		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/tortured-quotes/#comment-18549</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MS]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Oct 2013 06:40:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/tortured-quotes/#comment-17973&quot;&gt;MYVIEWS&lt;/a&gt;.

Quinn Taufer is a guy. Probably be in his early 30&#039;s now.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/tortured-quotes/#comment-17973">MYVIEWS</a>.</p>
<p>Quinn Taufer is a guy. Probably be in his early 30&#8217;s now.</p>
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		By: Odd Thomas		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/tortured-quotes/#comment-18368</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Odd Thomas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Oct 2013 19:46:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/tortured-quotes/#comment-18037&quot;&gt;Ronnie Bell&lt;/a&gt;.

Ronnie --- it would be like the Ringmaster coming out before the crowd, naked and on fire, and trying to assure everyone that there is nothing wrong. No one! is going to believe them, no matter what shore story they try to pawn off. They&#039;re left with the only option available -- stand there and look dumb.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/tortured-quotes/#comment-18037">Ronnie Bell</a>.</p>
<p>Ronnie &#8212; it would be like the Ringmaster coming out before the crowd, naked and on fire, and trying to assure everyone that there is nothing wrong. No one! is going to believe them, no matter what shore story they try to pawn off. They&#8217;re left with the only option available &#8212; stand there and look dumb.</p>
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		By: Odd Thomas		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/tortured-quotes/#comment-18230</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Odd Thomas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Oct 2013 15:30:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/tortured-quotes/#comment-18031&quot;&gt;Carcha&lt;/a&gt;.

Carcha -- the scary thing is, that I can actually see this happening.

 &quot;the person widely believes that the symbols are the things.&quot;

We passed that crossroads some time back. It&#039;s easier for members of the RCS to do what they do, if they no longer see people, just symbols. Real people have feelings - you can commit overts against them. But symbols -- they don&#039;t feel anything. They never feel abused, or have wrong indications or want to cry. They simply cooperate. 

Whew!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/tortured-quotes/#comment-18031">Carcha</a>.</p>
<p>Carcha &#8212; the scary thing is, that I can actually see this happening.</p>
<p> &#8220;the person widely believes that the symbols are the things.&#8221;</p>
<p>We passed that crossroads some time back. It&#8217;s easier for members of the RCS to do what they do, if they no longer see people, just symbols. Real people have feelings &#8211; you can commit overts against them. But symbols &#8212; they don&#8217;t feel anything. They never feel abused, or have wrong indications or want to cry. They simply cooperate. </p>
<p>Whew!</p>
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		By: Odd Thomas		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/tortured-quotes/#comment-18229</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Odd Thomas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Oct 2013 15:18:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/tortured-quotes/#comment-18063&quot;&gt;Jose Chung&lt;/a&gt;.

Jose -- San Fran had the healthiest and most productive field that I had ever experienced. I watched it go from Great to Good to Gone in a few years, starting with the  
Inquisition of the Finance Police. It&#039;s still a great city and SCN was made for it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/tortured-quotes/#comment-18063">Jose Chung</a>.</p>
<p>Jose &#8212; San Fran had the healthiest and most productive field that I had ever experienced. I watched it go from Great to Good to Gone in a few years, starting with the<br />
Inquisition of the Finance Police. It&#8217;s still a great city and SCN was made for it.</p>
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		By: Odd Thomas		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/tortured-quotes/#comment-18226</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Odd Thomas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Oct 2013 15:11:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/tortured-quotes/#comment-18017&quot;&gt;Hallie Jane&lt;/a&gt;.

Amen, sister, amen.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/tortured-quotes/#comment-18017">Hallie Jane</a>.</p>
<p>Amen, sister, amen.</p>
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		By: Odd Thomas		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/tortured-quotes/#comment-18225</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Odd Thomas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Oct 2013 15:09:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/tortured-quotes/#comment-18000&quot;&gt;Idle Morgue&lt;/a&gt;.

Idle Morgue --- Everyone works directly for David Miscavige. What you see happening in the RCS right now is the real world manifestation of a Danger Condition spiraling towards Non Existence. He literally cut every command line within the church. He literally bypassed every SO Member, CL V staff member and SCN Public. There is no structure left to sustain the weight of the Church. Like a beautiful old wooden house, that has been ravaged by termites. From the outside it looks great, but it just needs a little push and the whole structure will come tumbling down. 

Oh to be a fly on the wall, late at night when all the force of DM&#039;s overts press heavily against him. To see the look of panic in his eyes. The look of inevitable retribution.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/tortured-quotes/#comment-18000">Idle Morgue</a>.</p>
<p>Idle Morgue &#8212; Everyone works directly for David Miscavige. What you see happening in the RCS right now is the real world manifestation of a Danger Condition spiraling towards Non Existence. He literally cut every command line within the church. He literally bypassed every SO Member, CL V staff member and SCN Public. There is no structure left to sustain the weight of the Church. Like a beautiful old wooden house, that has been ravaged by termites. From the outside it looks great, but it just needs a little push and the whole structure will come tumbling down. </p>
<p>Oh to be a fly on the wall, late at night when all the force of DM&#8217;s overts press heavily against him. To see the look of panic in his eyes. The look of inevitable retribution.</p>
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		By: Odd Thomas		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/tortured-quotes/#comment-18224</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Odd Thomas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Oct 2013 15:01:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/tortured-quotes/#comment-18064&quot;&gt;statpush&lt;/a&gt;.

Right on!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/tortured-quotes/#comment-18064">statpush</a>.</p>
<p>Right on!</p>
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		By: Odd Thomas		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/tortured-quotes/#comment-18223</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Odd Thomas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Oct 2013 14:59:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/tortured-quotes/#comment-18036&quot;&gt;Ronnie Bell&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;When I was a kid, the org was the safest, most comfortable place I knew of. It was literally overflowing with theta. A person could key out just hanging out amongst so many genuinely happy people.&quot;

Ronnie, you are now reading right out of a page from my book! What I remember most (and tear up about even now) were the conversations. Sitting around a table, drinking coffee and talking about how life and SCN were connected. The people were just plain interested in everything about the Tech and others and helping them change. I felt like a hungry man seated at a banquet. There was also this sense, that I had finally arrived.

Today, it&#039;s only the facade that remains. Just the symbols and catchphrases. Just enough to show you what is no longer there. Wow, I&#039;m tearing up again. Thanks Ronnie, for reminding me on what it was like and what makes it worthwhile to pursue again.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/tortured-quotes/#comment-18036">Ronnie Bell</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;When I was a kid, the org was the safest, most comfortable place I knew of. It was literally overflowing with theta. A person could key out just hanging out amongst so many genuinely happy people.&#8221;</p>
<p>Ronnie, you are now reading right out of a page from my book! What I remember most (and tear up about even now) were the conversations. Sitting around a table, drinking coffee and talking about how life and SCN were connected. The people were just plain interested in everything about the Tech and others and helping them change. I felt like a hungry man seated at a banquet. There was also this sense, that I had finally arrived.</p>
<p>Today, it&#8217;s only the facade that remains. Just the symbols and catchphrases. Just enough to show you what is no longer there. Wow, I&#8217;m tearing up again. Thanks Ronnie, for reminding me on what it was like and what makes it worthwhile to pursue again.</p>
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		By: Hallie Jane		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hallie Jane]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Sep 2013 19:09:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/tortured-quotes/#comment-18030&quot;&gt;Carcha&lt;/a&gt;.

Love your thoughts Carcha.  Very insightful!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/tortured-quotes/#comment-18030">Carcha</a>.</p>
<p>Love your thoughts Carcha.  Very insightful!</p>
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		By: Hallie Jane		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hallie Jane]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Sep 2013 19:00:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/tortured-quotes/#comment-18020&quot;&gt;Peter&lt;/a&gt;.

LOL!  You&#039;re probably right Peter.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/tortured-quotes/#comment-18020">Peter</a>.</p>
<p>LOL!  You&#8217;re probably right Peter.</p>
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