I have the orginal checksheet and MP3’s of ALL 648 tapes, not the cut down version people did with 425 tapes in the 80’s.

I also filched the CLas VIII checksheet and tapes before I legged it out Ha Ha!

So that Fucking Dwarf can drop dead LOL.

No comments required from the ********; in here.

I think coming out is often very extremely humbling. For probably most if us in Scientology for decades (I was in from 1989- 2914, 25 years) we were encouraged to believe we were more enlightened, aware and definitely important than, well everyone else, and the process of coming out hopefully includes a realization of the pride and narcissism, frankly deluded narcissism, that Scientology encouraged.

The journey from believing as one Sea Org poster claims that “for every one of us making it go right there are a million people who don’t even know what’s right” to the shattering realization that Scientology is a harmful fraud and Scientology founder Ronald Hubbard was the most prolific liar probably in history and a plagiarist who intended to use covert hypnosis and undue influence to mentally enslave mankind is a long and hard journey.

To add insult to injury after leaving Scientology it is extremely likely that one has to see that not only are they not a savior of humanity, but it’s extremely unlikely that they are capable of stopping Scientology and Dianetics from harming people.

The godlike power we were sold as the most generous of empty promises is a far cry from the very limited and very human levels of ability we actually wake up to someday if we are able to throw off Hubbard’s web of lies.

We are in my opinion very fortunate if we are able to escape Hubbard’s hold on our minds, not everyone is that lucky.

Ten years out. That is how long I’ve been out. It went fast. Seems like yesterday. But alas, I thought the church would have died long before this. And it hasn’t. Having all those whales infusing Davey with money has helped them still be here 10 years later. But if you look at people, they are all but dead as the orgs are empty.

Thanks.

I have been out of Scientology for ten years and as I have said many times read over fifty books on psychology, cognitive dissonance theory, rhetoric, propaganda, cults, the true history of Scientology and other cults and related subjects and at first I was reading and writing about Scientology for sixty hours a week, then over time, maybe a year or two, I was writing about Scientology for forty hours a week then over a few more years I went down to just twenty hours a week and over the last few years I have been writing about Scientology on and off .

Now, I sometimes go for weeks or even months without writing about Scientology.

A side effect is that the ability I used to have to recall several hundred references verbatim or nearly verbatim has faded.

I think it’s a good thing.

So, now I have to look up or ask for help finding references. And very often if you don’t know the title of a reference you are going to have a very hard time finding anything from a taped lecture or policy letter or bulletin.

Thanks for the info, Mike. I find it highly ironic that Davey, the COB head Pooh Bah of all in Scn is the one to decide whether something is in-tech or out-tech. This, from a kid who was kicked off his Class IV internship for yelling at his pc? This, from a guy who never trained after that and who avoids receiving auditing like it’s the plague. What a hypocrdite.

Yes he did say that. And he also said that when an SP attacks an org it always attacks the tech and delivery division first (the auditing division and the making of auditors). Well that is what happened. Davey, the SP, erased the Class VI Course (The Briefing Course) and he erased the Class VIII Course. And ne never said he intended to reissue the courses at a later date.

Regarding the OP here, I seem to vaguely recall a reference by Hubbard from my time in Scientology, probably something I read in the nineties, in which Hubbard emphasized the importance of people doing the BC and class VIII course and described anyone who stopped the delivery of these courses as an SP. I wish I could still remember the references verbatim like I did back when I was in Scientology.

Thanks, this supports several explanations that I heard years ago. Do you know who created LOC by any chance?

I remember the illustrations in the KTL materials seemed to be far higher in quality than most Scientology materials, now I have an answer as to why.

I wonder what David Miscavige now says regarding KTL and LOC and the world out of comm eval?

To some people these are trivial details, but I have found that for ex Scientologists you never know which particular historical or technical details are required for the recovery of a particular individual.

I have written well over six hundred posts on Scientology and I have been surprised many times by people who have been freed from the influence of Hubbard and sometimes they remark that a point or remark about the techniques in Scientology or the history of Hubbard or the organization that wasn’t especially revelatory to me is the key to the moment they broke Hubbard’s spell and they realized that they were fooled, an essential part of recovery for many ex cult members.

So, my point is that while witnesses to the true history of Scientology’s development are available, we should collect their accounts of what actually happened. You never know which details are gonna be useful in the future.

Sad but true.