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Yes. Isn’t it disgusting, Jane?

Hello Steve!
She got what was coming to her. 🙂

not really. there are plenty of followers there that are just as nuts

“At least they could have made the prize a few intensives at Flag, for that much money – or aren’t Scientology services worth anything to anybody anymore?” Indie 8 Mill, good comment. And sadly, I guess Scn services aren’t worth anything to those still IN anymore… now it’s all MEST MEST MEST.

I like the way you think.

I’ve thought about that a lot too, Hallie. He would NEVER leave that base before. He would NEVER leave other people in charge in his absence. He even gave Shelley a ration of it when she did something effective while he was gone.
What did he do, lock everybody in the Hole til he came back, like locking the dog in your bathroom while you’re on vacation and asking the neighbor to feed it in the bathroom once a day?
Wouldn’t it be wonderful if, when he came back, the Hole was empty, the base was deserted and he was all alone?
Who knows someone on the inside who could pull off a coup like that? Have a small army of cars waiting outside the gates, distract the guards, get the key and let everyone out and tell them that they were going to the movies and to get into the cars. Film them getting into the cars of their own, free will. When Heber and Guillaume and whoever else is in the hole are in the cars, take them to a secret place to decompress with some actual, real auditing and food and quiet rest. And let them watch a movie…The Wizard of Oz maybe. Or films that will help them to realize where they had been. Schindler’s list maybe? Honestly. Does anybody know anyone in there who knows what’s up? Someone who could do something like this? Pass it on.
And music that helps them remember what freedom is really about.
This is totally about being locked up but on a beautiful aesthetic wave length.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUNgQ03D2qA

Ronnie’s pretty smart, Hallie. 🙂 Takes one to know one.
Yes, we are farther away than we ever were. If DM would have just let the missions live, let the ball roll as it was rolling and take obstacles out of the way, OMG would we be so much closer to a much saner place.

I look at these hideous things like people eating other people’s faces off, young women and men getting put in jail for domestic violence (when, in actual fact, they just needed a comm course to not tear into each other) drug use and all of these other societal ills and it makes me so furious. Which of those people could have been helped and could have avoided this tragically anti-social behavior if we had gotten to them in time.
How many people helped does one yacht represent? One case of 100 year old scotch? A closet full of $5,000 Armani suits?
If we tabulate all of the money wasted on PIs, court cases, payoffs, etc., etc. How many millions of people could have been reached with the same tech that LRH left for us to put forward into the society, really?
What if the Church was still delivering and not F’ing around with all this BS? Chances are, we’d all still be in, doing our best to make this world a better place and being effective.
Instead, we have to go forward into the fray without all the resources we worked so hard to accumulate and just start over like some Tina Turner or Mel Gibson from Mad Max. And the group we are fighting to keep our heads above water is the very group we were trying to help. Our only alternative, should we choose to accept it) is to go out and help the people find the real Scientology. And get some for ourselves.
But all that time wasted and all of the people wasted in the process. So sad.

Will the killing ever end?

I attended just one of those Ideal Org fundraisers, but that one experience was enough to give me a sense of what those people endured those eight long hours. I think there may have been up to a hundred people at the one I attended, and it went for about four hours.

I don’t know why folks in that video didn’t just up and leave when they’d had enough. That’s what I did, when my family had finally maxed out on it. I collected my wife and kids and headed out the door, saying good night to everyone. No one even tried to stop us.