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		By: Cindy		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/valley-in-vain/#comment-79523</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cindy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2015 06:56:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/valley-in-vain/#comment-79130&quot;&gt;1984&lt;/a&gt;.

+ 100]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/valley-in-vain/#comment-79130">1984</a>.</p>
<p>+ 100</p>
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		<title>
		By: 1984		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/valley-in-vain/#comment-79130</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[1984]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2015 05:28:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/valley-in-vain/#comment-79003&quot;&gt;1984&lt;/a&gt;.

John, No. You imply a number of things, and make people wrong about it.
Take it easy. You are not in the SO anymore.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/valley-in-vain/#comment-79003">1984</a>.</p>
<p>John, No. You imply a number of things, and make people wrong about it.<br />
Take it easy. You are not in the SO anymore.</p>
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		By: RolandRB		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/valley-in-vain/#comment-79126</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2015 04:31:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/valley-in-vain/#comment-79002&quot;&gt;Beryl&lt;/a&gt;.

Or may &quot;dwarf into&quot;.   :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/valley-in-vain/#comment-79002">Beryl</a>.</p>
<p>Or may &#8220;dwarf into&#8221;.   🙂</p>
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		By: David Harper		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/valley-in-vain/#comment-79125</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Harper]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2015 04:27:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Is there any Scientology left in Scientology?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there any Scientology left in Scientology?</p>
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		By: John Locke		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/valley-in-vain/#comment-79119</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Locke]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2015 03:17:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/valley-in-vain/#comment-79003&quot;&gt;1984&lt;/a&gt;.

1984, In my OP I said that there was nothing from El Con about retirement for SO members.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/valley-in-vain/#comment-79003">1984</a>.</p>
<p>1984, In my OP I said that there was nothing from El Con about retirement for SO members.</p>
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		By: 1984		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/valley-in-vain/#comment-79118</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[1984]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2015 02:55:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/valley-in-vain/#comment-79003&quot;&gt;1984&lt;/a&gt;.

John, I am glad that you are recovering your namesake&#039;s philosophy.
Is there any references on  “Church funded retirement”?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/valley-in-vain/#comment-79003">1984</a>.</p>
<p>John, I am glad that you are recovering your namesake&#8217;s philosophy.<br />
Is there any references on  “Church funded retirement”?</p>
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		By: Pepper		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/valley-in-vain/#comment-79111</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pepper]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2015 02:07:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/valley-in-vain/#comment-79014&quot;&gt;Bruce Ploetz&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes John,  people can get any of the tech for free and outside the confines of the church. Those who don&#039;t view any tech outside the organized church as &quot;squirrel&quot; that is.  People who are still in and &quot;going up the Bridge&quot; are afraid of that.  They will get Declared for it.  Also, you always hear about some person squirreling and then they weren&#039;t doing well,etc.  Funny because I saw a lot of people doing &quot;Standard Scientology&quot; at Flag and they were not doing so well either.

I guess that I&#039;m daydreaming about seeing the Sea Org disbanded.  I think that would be a good thing.  Let people free for good and let them have a life of their own purpose and choosing.  If they still want to do Scientology or work for it in some capacity, then let it be on their own terms.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/valley-in-vain/#comment-79014">Bruce Ploetz</a>.</p>
<p>Yes John,  people can get any of the tech for free and outside the confines of the church. Those who don&#8217;t view any tech outside the organized church as &#8220;squirrel&#8221; that is.  People who are still in and &#8220;going up the Bridge&#8221; are afraid of that.  They will get Declared for it.  Also, you always hear about some person squirreling and then they weren&#8217;t doing well,etc.  Funny because I saw a lot of people doing &#8220;Standard Scientology&#8221; at Flag and they were not doing so well either.</p>
<p>I guess that I&#8217;m daydreaming about seeing the Sea Org disbanded.  I think that would be a good thing.  Let people free for good and let them have a life of their own purpose and choosing.  If they still want to do Scientology or work for it in some capacity, then let it be on their own terms.</p>
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		By: Hallie Jane		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/valley-in-vain/#comment-79103</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hallie Jane]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2015 00:22:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/valley-in-vain/#comment-78971&quot;&gt;Old Surfer Dude&lt;/a&gt;.

Anytime OSD.  I guess pretending is a &quot;continuing postulate&quot;.   Hahahaha!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/valley-in-vain/#comment-78971">Old Surfer Dude</a>.</p>
<p>Anytime OSD.  I guess pretending is a &#8220;continuing postulate&#8221;.   Hahahaha!</p>
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		By: John Locke		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/valley-in-vain/#comment-79100</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Locke]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2015 23:41:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/valley-in-vain/#comment-79014&quot;&gt;Bruce Ploetz&lt;/a&gt;.

Pepper, the OT materials ARE open and free.  They never had to be secret.  The S.O. is irrelevant now.  If you want to get them or deliver them, you can do so without recourse to the S.O.  Anyone can.  Statistically speaking, no one in the world WANTS the LRH &quot;O.T. Levels&quot; so I guess the whole point is now moot...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/valley-in-vain/#comment-79014">Bruce Ploetz</a>.</p>
<p>Pepper, the OT materials ARE open and free.  They never had to be secret.  The S.O. is irrelevant now.  If you want to get them or deliver them, you can do so without recourse to the S.O.  Anyone can.  Statistically speaking, no one in the world WANTS the LRH &#8220;O.T. Levels&#8221; so I guess the whole point is now moot&#8230;</p>
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		By: John Locke		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/valley-in-vain/#comment-79099</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Locke]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2015 23:29:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/valley-in-vain/#comment-79002&quot;&gt;Beryl&lt;/a&gt;.

Beryl, El Con knowingly raised the psycho DM up to the highest levels of management.  Hub bard himself was a criminal.  But, besides all that, there is NOTHING from stopping you and other like minded still scientologists from creating &quot;big, booming, orgs&quot;.  Why lament instead of making them?  I don&#039;t understand.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/valley-in-vain/#comment-79002">Beryl</a>.</p>
<p>Beryl, El Con knowingly raised the psycho DM up to the highest levels of management.  Hub bard himself was a criminal.  But, besides all that, there is NOTHING from stopping you and other like minded still scientologists from creating &#8220;big, booming, orgs&#8221;.  Why lament instead of making them?  I don&#8217;t understand.</p>
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