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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/victim-is-a-dirty-word-in-scientology/#comment-545465</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aquamarine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Oct 2023 23:06:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/victim-is-a-dirty-word-in-scientology/#comment-545461&quot;&gt;GR&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks, and yes, that&#039;s always the case, because fluid though helpful spiritual philosophies get crystalized into rigid rites and rituals which must be obeyed - or else (name your dire consequence).  Men create religions out of philosophies, and  with religion the individual&#039;s freedom of thought goes out the window.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/victim-is-a-dirty-word-in-scientology/#comment-545461">GR</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks, and yes, that&#8217;s always the case, because fluid though helpful spiritual philosophies get crystalized into rigid rites and rituals which must be obeyed &#8211; or else (name your dire consequence).  Men create religions out of philosophies, and  with religion the individual&#8217;s freedom of thought goes out the window.</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Oct 2023 23:00:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/victim-is-a-dirty-word-in-scientology/#comment-545313&quot;&gt;Joe Pendleton&lt;/a&gt;.

My thoughts exactly.  Where is Scientology the organization on Hubbard&#039;s Tone Scale?
Definitely below Body Death, that&#039;s for sure!  I&#039;d say &quot;social tone&quot; would be Covert Hostility  (pretend help, pretend caring, lying about Fair Game, lying about Disconnection, fake promises about huge spiritual gains as a result of large donations) but the actual tone is WAY down there.  In fact it amuses me to consider Scientology as an organization at &quot;Being Other Bodies&quot; because of the empty Ideal Morgues (refusing to be itself, denial of its actual beingness) but then its very possible that (along with Miscavige) the organization is actually in &quot;Hiding&quot;.  Strong evidence exists for this, and not only due to the Dwarf&#039;s ducking subpoenas.]]></description>
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<p>My thoughts exactly.  Where is Scientology the organization on Hubbard&#8217;s Tone Scale?<br />
Definitely below Body Death, that&#8217;s for sure!  I&#8217;d say &#8220;social tone&#8221; would be Covert Hostility  (pretend help, pretend caring, lying about Fair Game, lying about Disconnection, fake promises about huge spiritual gains as a result of large donations) but the actual tone is WAY down there.  In fact it amuses me to consider Scientology as an organization at &#8220;Being Other Bodies&#8221; because of the empty Ideal Morgues (refusing to be itself, denial of its actual beingness) but then its very possible that (along with Miscavige) the organization is actually in &#8220;Hiding&#8221;.  Strong evidence exists for this, and not only due to the Dwarf&#8217;s ducking subpoenas.</p>
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		By: GR		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Oct 2023 21:06:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/victim-is-a-dirty-word-in-scientology/#comment-545289&quot;&gt;Aquamarine&lt;/a&gt;.

Well said. Sadly, the victim story of Christianity, and mankind in general, often takes the spotlight away from the bigger story. The path to redemption.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/victim-is-a-dirty-word-in-scientology/#comment-545289">Aquamarine</a>.</p>
<p>Well said. Sadly, the victim story of Christianity, and mankind in general, often takes the spotlight away from the bigger story. The path to redemption.</p>
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		By: otherles		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Oct 2023 04:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/victim-is-a-dirty-word-in-scientology/#comment-545347&quot;&gt;GL&lt;/a&gt;.

I kept it as short as I thought was possible. I forgot to say that COB bravely ran away on the second line.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/victim-is-a-dirty-word-in-scientology/#comment-545347">GL</a>.</p>
<p>I kept it as short as I thought was possible. I forgot to say that COB bravely ran away on the second line.</p>
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		By: GL		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Oct 2023 23:59:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/victim-is-a-dirty-word-in-scientology/#comment-545282&quot;&gt;otherles&lt;/a&gt;.

You forgot, paraphrased:

&quot;Sir Miscreant, who had personally wet himself when the subpoenas started appearing.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/victim-is-a-dirty-word-in-scientology/#comment-545282">otherles</a>.</p>
<p>You forgot, paraphrased:</p>
<p>&#8220;Sir Miscreant, who had personally wet himself when the subpoenas started appearing.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Anonymous		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Oct 2023 18:14:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If you&#039;re always whining about being persecuted and victimized (which you were), Hubbard, you don&#039;t get to be scornful about actual victims. And according to modern-day Scientology, they&#039;re the biggest victims on Teegeeack.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you&#8217;re always whining about being persecuted and victimized (which you were), Hubbard, you don&#8217;t get to be scornful about actual victims. And according to modern-day Scientology, they&#8217;re the biggest victims on Teegeeack.</p>
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		By: Joe Pendleton		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Oct 2023 14:50:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/victim-is-a-dirty-word-in-scientology/#comment-545289&quot;&gt;Aquamarine&lt;/a&gt;.

In a way though , Aqua, Scientology is kinda proving LRH right , as it plunges down the Tone Scale towards death ... ok, maybe it&#039;s chronic tone is even lower ...]]></description>
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<p>In a way though , Aqua, Scientology is kinda proving LRH right , as it plunges down the Tone Scale towards death &#8230; ok, maybe it&#8217;s chronic tone is even lower &#8230;</p>
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		By: Mary Kahn		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mary Kahn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Oct 2023 12:50:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/victim-is-a-dirty-word-in-scientology/#comment-545282&quot;&gt;otherles&lt;/a&gt;.

COB sounds like a Victim.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/victim-is-a-dirty-word-in-scientology/#comment-545282">otherles</a>.</p>
<p>COB sounds like a Victim.</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aquamarine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Oct 2023 03:42:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/victim-is-a-dirty-word-in-scientology/#comment-545289&quot;&gt;Aquamarine&lt;/a&gt;.

Mike, you look good!  Healthy!  Like you used to.  Just saying :)]]></description>
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<p>Mike, you look good!  Healthy!  Like you used to.  Just saying 🙂</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aquamarine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Oct 2023 03:36:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This HCOB about Christians succeeding via victimhood is interesting and rife with irony.  Scientology constantly plays the victim when criticized.  Continually whining and moaning. Waaah... hate speech... waaahh...religious discrimination...oh, its so unfair... V

Victimization (along with outright dishonest denial) comprise the totality of their responses to any criticisms.    They NEVER address the points - never.  Obviously because they can&#039;t.  And so they have only  outright denials which are lies,  liberally pepper with : they&#039;re so mean, they hate us, waaah, waaah, waaah&quot;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This HCOB about Christians succeeding via victimhood is interesting and rife with irony.  Scientology constantly plays the victim when criticized.  Continually whining and moaning. Waaah&#8230; hate speech&#8230; waaahh&#8230;religious discrimination&#8230;oh, its so unfair&#8230; V</p>
<p>Victimization (along with outright dishonest denial) comprise the totality of their responses to any criticisms.    They NEVER address the points &#8211; never.  Obviously because they can&#8217;t.  And so they have only  outright denials which are lies,  liberally pepper with : they&#8217;re so mean, they hate us, waaah, waaah, waaah&#8221;.</p>
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