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		By: Pepper		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/voldemort-news/#comment-18857</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pepper]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Oct 2013 18:37:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/voldemort-news/#comment-18724&quot;&gt;Martin Padfield&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you Martin. I enjoyed that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/voldemort-news/#comment-18724">Martin Padfield</a>.</p>
<p>Thank you Martin. I enjoyed that.</p>
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		By: Barb		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/voldemort-news/#comment-18816</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Oct 2013 05:24:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The resource based economy will be here in full force before they even get near clearing their city.  

Then the cult will collapse anyhow. Only the trained auditors that are social workers legal will survive in my thinking.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The resource based economy will be here in full force before they even get near clearing their city.  </p>
<p>Then the cult will collapse anyhow. Only the trained auditors that are social workers legal will survive in my thinking.</p>
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		By: Cece		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Oct 2013 01:22:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Wow Mike.  Perhaps you do need to write a book.
Cece]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow Mike.  Perhaps you do need to write a book.<br />
Cece</p>
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		By: Cece		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Oct 2013 01:14:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Nice post.  Thx for saying it all.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice post.  Thx for saying it all.</p>
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		By: remoteviewed		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Oct 2013 23:51:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/voldemort-news/#comment-18779&quot;&gt;Mike Rinder&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanx for the deep background Mike ;)

I remember the Portland Disaster quite well as I was at ASHO at the time doing the Briefing Course and moonlighting as an FESer in their HGC.

Fortunately I didn&#039;t have to go to Portland since all Tech staff had to stay and deliver while most of the Admin staff took the bus.

Ya know the red white and blue school buses with Portland Freedom Crusade emblazoned on their sides.

Anyhoo.

I remember most the staff including a lot of management terminals leaving and us tech staff being left behind with very little adult supervision and the stats actually going up.

Go figure.

What else I remember is OSA moving into the annex on the third floor with a bunch of Legal Eagles including Earl Cooley Esq who seemed to be an Allstate Agent as well when he told us that Scientology was in good hands after the Ol&#039;man departed which is another story...

(Joke told to me by a lawyer:

&quot;How can you tell if a lawyer&#039;s lying?&quot;



&quot;His lips are moving&quot;)

But I digress.

Personally I thought the whole crusade thing was a lota hype and I was happy to be on the outside looking in. Especially when I found out years later that it all started when the Portland (RIP) Mission didn&#039;t apply standard policy and give Kristofferson a refund, so she tried to take the only legal recourse she had and sued all masked as an assault against the First Amendment.

Let&#039;s see refunding a 50 buck comm course compared to say millions spent in legal costs.....

Yeah I can see why you&#039;d call it a disaster Mike.

I would too.

Even though it was played up as some kind of glorious religious &quot;victory&quot; of some kind.

Anyway.

Thanx for getting back to me Mike.

This discussion has been fun and enlightening.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/voldemort-news/#comment-18779">Mike Rinder</a>.</p>
<p>Thanx for the deep background Mike 😉</p>
<p>I remember the Portland Disaster quite well as I was at ASHO at the time doing the Briefing Course and moonlighting as an FESer in their HGC.</p>
<p>Fortunately I didn&#8217;t have to go to Portland since all Tech staff had to stay and deliver while most of the Admin staff took the bus.</p>
<p>Ya know the red white and blue school buses with Portland Freedom Crusade emblazoned on their sides.</p>
<p>Anyhoo.</p>
<p>I remember most the staff including a lot of management terminals leaving and us tech staff being left behind with very little adult supervision and the stats actually going up.</p>
<p>Go figure.</p>
<p>What else I remember is OSA moving into the annex on the third floor with a bunch of Legal Eagles including Earl Cooley Esq who seemed to be an Allstate Agent as well when he told us that Scientology was in good hands after the Ol&#8217;man departed which is another story&#8230;</p>
<p>(Joke told to me by a lawyer:</p>
<p>&#8220;How can you tell if a lawyer&#8217;s lying?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;His lips are moving&#8221;)</p>
<p>But I digress.</p>
<p>Personally I thought the whole crusade thing was a lota hype and I was happy to be on the outside looking in. Especially when I found out years later that it all started when the Portland (RIP) Mission didn&#8217;t apply standard policy and give Kristofferson a refund, so she tried to take the only legal recourse she had and sued all masked as an assault against the First Amendment.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s see refunding a 50 buck comm course compared to say millions spent in legal costs&#8230;..</p>
<p>Yeah I can see why you&#8217;d call it a disaster Mike.</p>
<p>I would too.</p>
<p>Even though it was played up as some kind of glorious religious &#8220;victory&#8221; of some kind.</p>
<p>Anyway.</p>
<p>Thanx for getting back to me Mike.</p>
<p>This discussion has been fun and enlightening.</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Oct 2013 21:50:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/voldemort-news/#comment-18719&quot;&gt;plainoldthetan&lt;/a&gt;.

This makes sense also.  These guys won&#039;t do HIM any good back at their orgs  So, allow me, please, to re-cap:

Back in mid-summer, every org had to send 7 OOTs to Flag for GAG II training immediately.  The orgs complied and 1000 or them were sent and are still there..  A portion of them are done, a portion of them are not done.  None of them can leave until all are done, AND there is STILL NO TARGET DATE for the official GAG II Release Announcement which will occur at the next major event, whenever and whatever that is.

AND,  with all this even after all the OOTs are comp&#039;ed and GAG II is announced and they are fired back to their various orgs, if any org is not Ideal it won&#039;t be permitted to deliver GAG II until it becomes an Ideal Org ANYWAY...

I think I need to take a walk.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/voldemort-news/#comment-18719">plainoldthetan</a>.</p>
<p>This makes sense also.  These guys won&#8217;t do HIM any good back at their orgs  So, allow me, please, to re-cap:</p>
<p>Back in mid-summer, every org had to send 7 OOTs to Flag for GAG II training immediately.  The orgs complied and 1000 or them were sent and are still there..  A portion of them are done, a portion of them are not done.  None of them can leave until all are done, AND there is STILL NO TARGET DATE for the official GAG II Release Announcement which will occur at the next major event, whenever and whatever that is.</p>
<p>AND,  with all this even after all the OOTs are comp&#8217;ed and GAG II is announced and they are fired back to their various orgs, if any org is not Ideal it won&#8217;t be permitted to deliver GAG II until it becomes an Ideal Org ANYWAY&#8230;</p>
<p>I think I need to take a walk.</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Oct 2013 21:28:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/voldemort-news/#comment-18716&quot;&gt;simplethetan&lt;/a&gt;.

:):)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/voldemort-news/#comment-18716">simplethetan</a>.</p>
<p>:):)</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Oct 2013 21:25:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/voldemort-news/#comment-18697&quot;&gt;The Oracle&lt;/a&gt;.

Got it.   So effectively, its in the Dwarf&#039;s interest for all of these OOTs to have NOT comp&#039;ed until just after the date of his next major event, whenever that will be. And if the IAS event is skipped and everything is bundled into the New Years Event - wow.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/voldemort-news/#comment-18697">The Oracle</a>.</p>
<p>Got it.   So effectively, its in the Dwarf&#8217;s interest for all of these OOTs to have NOT comp&#8217;ed until just after the date of his next major event, whenever that will be. And if the IAS event is skipped and everything is bundled into the New Years Event &#8211; wow.</p>
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		By: Mike Rinder		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Oct 2013 20:46:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/voldemort-news/#comment-18770&quot;&gt;remoteviewed&lt;/a&gt;.

By October 1984 (when the IAS was formed), LRH was well and truly off the lines. The IAS was the brainchild of Danish lawyer Jakob Arrevad as a means of creating a repository of funds not accessible by the IRS. It&#039;s purpose as a &quot;War Chest&quot; was artificially created as a result of the Portland disaster and the first &quot;Crusade&quot;. NOT ONE THIN DIME of IAS money was spent on Portland or any subsequent &quot;crusade&quot; but the idea of getting support for a disastrous legal decision was born and has grown like a weed since....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/voldemort-news/#comment-18770">remoteviewed</a>.</p>
<p>By October 1984 (when the IAS was formed), LRH was well and truly off the lines. The IAS was the brainchild of Danish lawyer Jakob Arrevad as a means of creating a repository of funds not accessible by the IRS. It&#8217;s purpose as a &#8220;War Chest&#8221; was artificially created as a result of the Portland disaster and the first &#8220;Crusade&#8221;. NOT ONE THIN DIME of IAS money was spent on Portland or any subsequent &#8220;crusade&#8221; but the idea of getting support for a disastrous legal decision was born and has grown like a weed since&#8230;.</p>
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		By: remoteviewed		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/voldemort-news/#comment-18772</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Oct 2013 19:54:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hey Mike,

For some reason my ode to the IAS ended up in the Voldemort section....

....Sigh....

So it may seem OT as in Off Topic.

Anyhoo.

Since I&#039;m here for some reason I might as well comment on quote The Man Behind Scientology unquote or Prince of Darkness but I think you covered it quite well with your post.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Mike,</p>
<p>For some reason my ode to the IAS ended up in the Voldemort section&#8230;.</p>
<p>&#8230;.Sigh&#8230;.</p>
<p>So it may seem OT as in Off Topic.</p>
<p>Anyhoo.</p>
<p>Since I&#8217;m here for some reason I might as well comment on quote The Man Behind Scientology unquote or Prince of Darkness but I think you covered it quite well with your post.</p>
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