That was some Hysterical writing.You are getting funnier Mike.
Can you see the giant cross on the SP building from Tarpon ?
I can see it from my roof top..

Just toss in a few “moreovers” and “then agains” and a couple of “given what we have already seen” and you will have it fine. Alliteration isnt so much his thing….

Well said Ronnie. Originations are treated like comments, I never felt so invisible. I twisted myself into a knot, thinking I wasn’t communicating well enough. My signature moment was when I saw that nothing I said mattered and that they (Flag) really had no interest at all in what I had to say about myself. I was about as important as a folding chair on an assembly line.

This is in response to what Mike said but there is no reply button on his post.
Interesting that the viewpoint was that the missions were, “money-motivated bloodsuckers and parasites on the orgs.”
I wonder what suppression the orgs had on them that kept them from expanding because my COSMOD mission (COS Missions of Davis) went from 15 staff in 1975 to 90 by 1980. Nearly St Hill size. But, in that same period of time, the org was still limping along at 15 to 20 staff, give or take.
I don’t remember any heavy regging for staff – people wanted to help and we were getting paid from $40 to $50 a week in 1977 up to $150 on a great week. You could almost live on that then.
But as far as stealing public from the org, we couldn’t steal public from the org, they were already at the org. But we kicked ass on dissemination. We had 8 staff in Div VI alone, and 4 of those were FT body routers. When the evening was approaching, all of those staff would go out and get at least one person for the lecture so we always had people in attendance.
One thing we didn’t do was send people on to our Class V org, we usually sent them directly to Flag. We could deliver up to Clear so we did.
And wasn’t that the pot calling the kettle black on the money motivated part? YES we pushed for money but WE were more interested in the product of an improved thetan.
AND, we had one of the most kick ass comm courses in the universe, thank you very much. 😀 Hadda say it. 🙂

Thanks so much, Jane. That will make me very happy if our friends still in can see what’s happening from the links.
That whole mission holder annihilation really burns my toast. I helped/we helped build that at $50 a week and then He comes in and wipes it out in a weekend and ruins our friends who had the leadership, intelligence and insight to do it right. Money grab then, money grab now. Thanks again for the thumbs up, Jane. I appreciate it.

Ah, yes, the toe nail stat! Can’t wait for Mike’s upcoming, leaked e-mail: “This week, 40,000 toe nails, some bare of color and beautifully buffed, others pedicured and painted prettily pink while some roared in raging shades of red, and at the same time an untold number unclipped and generally uncared for though happily free to see in fun, Florida flip-flops, arrived at Flag”. (Mr. Sherman, can you help me out a little on my alliteration?)

scilons

Little tip… Everyone who reads or posts here isn’t an ex-Scientologist. Many of us are Scientologists who’ve merely resigned from our corrupted and fallen church. Personally, I find the term, ‘Scilon’, to be a religious slur. Just a tip.

Mike, thanks for this very interesting information served up with your usual ability to totally crack me up.
Ok, so Auditors Day = unlikely. Do you think it likely that the IAS event will be moved up to September, to compensate for this? Really, I can’t see “Him” (oh, wait – he’s just “Dave” now, sorry!) allowing any of those OOTs to comp and leave Flag and fire back to their orgs BEFORE the IAS event, yet the IAS event has been for the past several years held in mid-to-late October. If you can safely comm about this now, fine, but if not, I understand.

They never did listen even when I was on lines.

Ain’t that the truth. I remember one time waiting in the HGC of ASHO and having the realization that there was less real communication going on within the walls of the church, than in any other place I knew of. I actually experienced more real communication and got more floating needles just sitting in the local coffee shop with friends.

How ironic is it, that a group whose applied religious philosophy is based upon the basic mechanics of communication, can be so hard of hearing?

I’m pretty sure that cognition was the signature moment when I finally allowed the full weight of reality about the church to set in on me. Up until that moment, I was still clinging to a shred of hope that somehow I’d find a terminal there who would really duplicate me. It was the moment I realized that my church was no more.

Thanks Carcha. Good viewpoints. I will take a look at those suggested cut-off dates as a guide.

I am not moved in my certainty about what I know and what is true for me. I also don’t drink the medicine either!