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	Comments on: Wendy Bowman &#8212; of the &#8220;Joburg 18&#8221; &#8212; Tells Her Story	</title>
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		By: Pericles		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pericles]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Nov 2019 21:42:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/wendy-bowman-of-the-joburg-18-tells-her-story/#comment-205830&quot;&gt;Dominique&lt;/a&gt;.

Dominique, If you knew Wendy, you would know that she didn&#039;t try to force innocent people into the &#039;religion&#039;. That was more the acolytes of David Miscavige.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/wendy-bowman-of-the-joburg-18-tells-her-story/#comment-205830">Dominique</a>.</p>
<p>Dominique, If you knew Wendy, you would know that she didn&#8217;t try to force innocent people into the &#8216;religion&#8217;. That was more the acolytes of David Miscavige.</p>
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		By: Dominique		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dominique]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jan 2018 19:50:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I came across this blog after watching The aftermath and saw a name I recognized. 

Wendy, I’d like to know after all these years if you feel bad for the way you tried to force innocent people into this “religion” by enforcing compulsory Scientology training?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I came across this blog after watching The aftermath and saw a name I recognized. </p>
<p>Wendy, I’d like to know after all these years if you feel bad for the way you tried to force innocent people into this “religion” by enforcing compulsory Scientology training?</p>
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		By: sophia13		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sophia13]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Nov 2013 18:29:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/wendy-bowman-of-the-joburg-18-tells-her-story/#comment-23416&quot;&gt;Odd Thomas&lt;/a&gt;.

I was on course at a mission for a year after I got introduced to Scn in 1970.  That mission was the kindest, gentlest environment I have ever been in.  It was much kinder and gentler than the university environment I had been in for the preceding 5 years.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/wendy-bowman-of-the-joburg-18-tells-her-story/#comment-23416">Odd Thomas</a>.</p>
<p>I was on course at a mission for a year after I got introduced to Scn in 1970.  That mission was the kindest, gentlest environment I have ever been in.  It was much kinder and gentler than the university environment I had been in for the preceding 5 years.</p>
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		By: Odd Thomas		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Nov 2013 01:08:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/wendy-bowman-of-the-joburg-18-tells-her-story/#comment-23356&quot;&gt;Anon&lt;/a&gt;.

Anon - your opinion is welcome, but in this case incorrect. The Scientology world that I stepped into in 1972 was compassionate, open, alive and filled with a sense urgency -- not to reg but to help others. It was kinder and gentler and I lament its loss every day. Just turn the pages of these posts and read the comments - you&#039;ll see and hopefully feel the changes that all of us have endured. We wouldn&#039;t be here, writing and contributing so diligently, if that were not the case.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/wendy-bowman-of-the-joburg-18-tells-her-story/#comment-23356">Anon</a>.</p>
<p>Anon &#8211; your opinion is welcome, but in this case incorrect. The Scientology world that I stepped into in 1972 was compassionate, open, alive and filled with a sense urgency &#8212; not to reg but to help others. It was kinder and gentler and I lament its loss every day. Just turn the pages of these posts and read the comments &#8211; you&#8217;ll see and hopefully feel the changes that all of us have endured. We wouldn&#8217;t be here, writing and contributing so diligently, if that were not the case.</p>
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		By: Wendy B		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wendy B]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Nov 2013 18:40:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/wendy-bowman-of-the-joburg-18-tells-her-story/#comment-23360&quot;&gt;Mike Rinder&lt;/a&gt;.

Thou are so right , Mike. 
Back in the 60&#039;s we had such huge ARC amongst the group, staff and public combined ... none of this segregation. And events were hugely looked forward to because they were such special occasions, full of fun, and not a whisper of fund raising or pressure reg&#039;ing anywhere.
Wonderful times!
Wendy B]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/wendy-bowman-of-the-joburg-18-tells-her-story/#comment-23360">Mike Rinder</a>.</p>
<p>Thou are so right , Mike.<br />
Back in the 60&#8217;s we had such huge ARC amongst the group, staff and public combined &#8230; none of this segregation. And events were hugely looked forward to because they were such special occasions, full of fun, and not a whisper of fund raising or pressure reg&#8217;ing anywhere.<br />
Wonderful times!<br />
Wendy B</p>
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		By: Dean Blair		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Nov 2013 18:30:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thank you Wendy and Alan for speaking what you know to be the truth and for not cowering despite the awful threats and intimidation.  If more people had done this decades ago, David Miscavige would have never been such a destructive influence on Scientology.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Wendy and Alan for speaking what you know to be the truth and for not cowering despite the awful threats and intimidation.  If more people had done this decades ago, David Miscavige would have never been such a destructive influence on Scientology.</p>
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		By: Mike Rinder		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Rinder]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Nov 2013 17:40:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/wendy-bowman-of-the-joburg-18-tells-her-story/#comment-23356&quot;&gt;Anon&lt;/a&gt;.

Maybe it doesnt matter to you, but there WAS a time when even inside churches of Scientology the general attitude was to try to help others and there was little, if any focus on money.

Hardly the state of affairs today.

I think that qualifies as &quot;kinder, gentler&quot; -- don&#039;t you? 

Or is it simply that it is your opinion that everything about Scientology is unkind and rough?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/wendy-bowman-of-the-joburg-18-tells-her-story/#comment-23356">Anon</a>.</p>
<p>Maybe it doesnt matter to you, but there WAS a time when even inside churches of Scientology the general attitude was to try to help others and there was little, if any focus on money.</p>
<p>Hardly the state of affairs today.</p>
<p>I think that qualifies as &#8220;kinder, gentler&#8221; &#8212; don&#8217;t you? </p>
<p>Or is it simply that it is your opinion that everything about Scientology is unkind and rough?</p>
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		By: Tim-S		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tim-S]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Nov 2013 17:36:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Good to have you out among the Indys Wendy and thank you for telling your story. Your story puts the truth out and benefits the teller and the reader.  Welcome.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good to have you out among the Indys Wendy and thank you for telling your story. Your story puts the truth out and benefits the teller and the reader.  Welcome.</p>
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		By: Anon		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Nov 2013 17:25:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Kinder, gentler&quot;  Scientology?  That&#039;s revisionist history at its best!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Kinder, gentler&#8221;  Scientology?  That&#8217;s revisionist history at its best!</p>
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		By: Starman8		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Starman8]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Nov 2013 15:53:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/wendy-bowman-of-the-joburg-18-tells-her-story/#comment-23304&quot;&gt;Wendy B&lt;/a&gt;.

Dear Wendy

All the same, I&#039;m very glad you got Debbie Cook&#039;s email from Hero - I was the one who sent it to them!

Well done on getting out!  And thanks for your story.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/wendy-bowman-of-the-joburg-18-tells-her-story/#comment-23304">Wendy B</a>.</p>
<p>Dear Wendy</p>
<p>All the same, I&#8217;m very glad you got Debbie Cook&#8217;s email from Hero &#8211; I was the one who sent it to them!</p>
<p>Well done on getting out!  And thanks for your story.</p>
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