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		By: sophia13		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/what-scientology-could-be/#comment-7775</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jul 2013 03:18:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/what-scientology-could-be/#comment-7748&quot;&gt;Hallie Jane&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you!  One of the best essays I&#039;ve ever read.  Wow.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/what-scientology-could-be/#comment-7748">Hallie Jane</a>.</p>
<p>Thank you!  One of the best essays I&#8217;ve ever read.  Wow.</p>
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		By: Mike Rinder		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jul 2013 03:10:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/what-scientology-could-be/#comment-7772&quot;&gt;Robin&lt;/a&gt;.

OK, this is the last response on this subject. Those Guardian Orders were written by L. Ron Hubbard.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/what-scientology-could-be/#comment-7772">Robin</a>.</p>
<p>OK, this is the last response on this subject. Those Guardian Orders were written by L. Ron Hubbard.</p>
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		By: Robin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jul 2013 02:51:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/what-scientology-could-be/#comment-7641&quot;&gt;Robin&lt;/a&gt;.

BTW Mike who wrote the GOD Intelligence Principles and Counter Attack Tactics.?

Was it the Ol&#039;man or Jane Kember signing on his behalf?

As you know the GO under Kember was not exactly the most on source area of the Org.

I suggest someone publish all GODs which later became OSA NWOs and verify their provenance.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/what-scientology-could-be/#comment-7641">Robin</a>.</p>
<p>BTW Mike who wrote the GOD Intelligence Principles and Counter Attack Tactics.?</p>
<p>Was it the Ol&#8217;man or Jane Kember signing on his behalf?</p>
<p>As you know the GO under Kember was not exactly the most on source area of the Org.</p>
<p>I suggest someone publish all GODs which later became OSA NWOs and verify their provenance.</p>
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		By: Tony DePhillips		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jul 2013 02:35:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/what-scientology-could-be/#comment-7748&quot;&gt;Hallie Jane&lt;/a&gt;.

I like how you roll.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/what-scientology-could-be/#comment-7748">Hallie Jane</a>.</p>
<p>I like how you roll.</p>
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		By: Mike Rinder		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Rinder]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jul 2013 02:24:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/what-scientology-could-be/#comment-7755&quot;&gt;Robin&lt;/a&gt;.

Robin -- I suggest you read Guardian Orders Intelligence Principles and Counter Attack Tactics. They were never canceled. They were written after Fair Game was cancelled for PR reasons. They are the basis upon which those programs to cost Tori and Chuck Beatty their jobs were based. Those programs do exactly what is called for in those issues. Anything is justified when dealing with an SP who is seeking to &quot;destroy the church.&quot; Connecting them to child pornography or running campaigns to spread false information to their employers to get them fired is EXACTLY what is called for in those issues. But you are right, those issues do not call for anyone to be labeled &quot;Fair Game.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/what-scientology-could-be/#comment-7755">Robin</a>.</p>
<p>Robin &#8212; I suggest you read Guardian Orders Intelligence Principles and Counter Attack Tactics. They were never canceled. They were written after Fair Game was cancelled for PR reasons. They are the basis upon which those programs to cost Tori and Chuck Beatty their jobs were based. Those programs do exactly what is called for in those issues. Anything is justified when dealing with an SP who is seeking to &#8220;destroy the church.&#8221; Connecting them to child pornography or running campaigns to spread false information to their employers to get them fired is EXACTLY what is called for in those issues. But you are right, those issues do not call for anyone to be labeled &#8220;Fair Game.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Mike Rinder		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Rinder]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jul 2013 02:16:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/what-scientology-could-be/#comment-7749&quot;&gt;Robin&lt;/a&gt;.

Robin -- I am afraid you are living in a hypothetical world where reality is determined by labels and policy quotes, not the real world. Illegitimate actions that are violations of human rights are taking place in Scientology and they don&#039;t go away because they don&#039;t have the right label. But I am not going to spend time arguing about this, readers here can make up their own minds.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/what-scientology-could-be/#comment-7749">Robin</a>.</p>
<p>Robin &#8212; I am afraid you are living in a hypothetical world where reality is determined by labels and policy quotes, not the real world. Illegitimate actions that are violations of human rights are taking place in Scientology and they don&#8217;t go away because they don&#8217;t have the right label. But I am not going to spend time arguing about this, readers here can make up their own minds.</p>
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		By: Robin		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jul 2013 01:02:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/what-scientology-could-be/#comment-7712&quot;&gt;Robin&lt;/a&gt;.

Oh and I forgot to add.

And &quot;shudder them into silence&quot; ;)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/what-scientology-could-be/#comment-7712">Robin</a>.</p>
<p>Oh and I forgot to add.</p>
<p>And &#8220;shudder them into silence&#8221; 😉</p>
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		By: B.Webb		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jul 2013 00:46:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/what-scientology-could-be/#comment-7712&quot;&gt;Robin&lt;/a&gt;.

Robin,

There is plenty pf proof that the *practice* of Fair Game was not only condoned, but ordered, by Hubbard, and well into the 1970s.

In fact, Hubbard developed an an entire tech for Fair Game. A big part of it can be found in what he called &quot;Scientology Intelligence tech.&quot;

Only the LABEL &#039;Fair Game was cancelled, not the PRACTICE.

I&#039;m a truly sorry that you seem unable to understand.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/what-scientology-could-be/#comment-7712">Robin</a>.</p>
<p>Robin,</p>
<p>There is plenty pf proof that the *practice* of Fair Game was not only condoned, but ordered, by Hubbard, and well into the 1970s.</p>
<p>In fact, Hubbard developed an an entire tech for Fair Game. A big part of it can be found in what he called &#8220;Scientology Intelligence tech.&#8221;</p>
<p>Only the LABEL &#8216;Fair Game was cancelled, not the PRACTICE.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a truly sorry that you seem unable to understand.</p>
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		By: Robin		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jul 2013 23:38:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/what-scientology-could-be/#comment-7712&quot;&gt;Robin&lt;/a&gt;.

The point I&#039;m making is that Fair Game is a label not a practice.

It is a noun not a verb as you can see from the above definition.

You have no proof that it was personally condoned by Hubbard since it was cancelled except that others continued to use the label covertly when dealing with critics.

As the Church continues to do. 

As many of its critics do as well.

In fact back when I posted on ARS it was a popular past time to attack anyone who wasn&#039;t critical enough about Scientology.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/what-scientology-could-be/#comment-7712">Robin</a>.</p>
<p>The point I&#8217;m making is that Fair Game is a label not a practice.</p>
<p>It is a noun not a verb as you can see from the above definition.</p>
<p>You have no proof that it was personally condoned by Hubbard since it was cancelled except that others continued to use the label covertly when dealing with critics.</p>
<p>As the Church continues to do. </p>
<p>As many of its critics do as well.</p>
<p>In fact back when I posted on ARS it was a popular past time to attack anyone who wasn&#8217;t critical enough about Scientology.</p>
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		By: Odd Thomas		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jul 2013 22:30:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/what-scientology-could-be/#comment-7667&quot;&gt;Aquamarine&lt;/a&gt;.

Aquamarine,

I don&#039;t think you&#039;re rambling or are incoherent. I agree with your take on things. Let&#039;s put this into perspective. KSW was issued in 1965, 48 years ago! The purpose of KSW as I understood it, was simply keep the tech standard. Do it, as written. That was it. It became more complicated when people kept adding things to it, or taking things away, and there were problems. The results started to suffer.

You want to see an overly controlled environment, go work at McDonald&#039;s. The same recipes have been followed for 60+ years and for one effing good reason - it sells. They have their own version of KSW. So does Apple, Marie Callenders, Starbucks and others. It&#039;s all about maintaining what works and not altering it. 

People, over time added a 100 other things to KSW which didn&#039;t apply. This generated a lot of BPC and now KSW itself has a bad taste in many people&#039;s mouths. It&#039;s unfortuante but there you have it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/what-scientology-could-be/#comment-7667">Aquamarine</a>.</p>
<p>Aquamarine,</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think you&#8217;re rambling or are incoherent. I agree with your take on things. Let&#8217;s put this into perspective. KSW was issued in 1965, 48 years ago! The purpose of KSW as I understood it, was simply keep the tech standard. Do it, as written. That was it. It became more complicated when people kept adding things to it, or taking things away, and there were problems. The results started to suffer.</p>
<p>You want to see an overly controlled environment, go work at McDonald&#8217;s. The same recipes have been followed for 60+ years and for one effing good reason &#8211; it sells. They have their own version of KSW. So does Apple, Marie Callenders, Starbucks and others. It&#8217;s all about maintaining what works and not altering it. </p>
<p>People, over time added a 100 other things to KSW which didn&#8217;t apply. This generated a lot of BPC and now KSW itself has a bad taste in many people&#8217;s mouths. It&#8217;s unfortuante but there you have it.</p>
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