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		By: AnEx		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Oct 2023 13:00:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A second thought: In that most recent photo of Weiland he&#039;s wearing a rather bulky wristwatch. Now I realized what it reminds me of: an electronic ankle bracelet. 

Could be easily programmed to sound off an immediate alarm should it&#039;s wearer leave the holy grounds of Golden Era. 

Well, I guess we&#039;ll know when we get new photos with others wearing the same kind of watch.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A second thought: In that most recent photo of Weiland he&#8217;s wearing a rather bulky wristwatch. Now I realized what it reminds me of: an electronic ankle bracelet. </p>
<p>Could be easily programmed to sound off an immediate alarm should it&#8217;s wearer leave the holy grounds of Golden Era. </p>
<p>Well, I guess we&#8217;ll know when we get new photos with others wearing the same kind of watch.</p>
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		By: vegan3		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[vegan3]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Oct 2023 22:14:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/where-is-kurt-weiland-former-co-osa-international/#comment-544702&quot;&gt;Chris Shugart&lt;/a&gt;.

I watched a video from 1982 where an ex member age 18 or so spoke out for hours about all the heinous activities going on when he was in at the Fort Harrison Hotel.  Toward the end of the video he mentions the name of his roommate, who happened to stay IN another decade.  Why did one see all the abuse and crimes being committed and one didn&#039;t?  Boggles the mind.  Interesting footnote though.  I was born and raised in the bay area and the Patty Hearst kidnapping was, of course, a huge deal in that era.  It was only a few months ago that I came to find out it was a well known (ex-cop) psychic, OT at the time, that was the one behind her kidnappers being caught.  He met with a classic (for this cult) &quot;untimely demise&quot; a few years later in Las Vegas.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/where-is-kurt-weiland-former-co-osa-international/#comment-544702">Chris Shugart</a>.</p>
<p>I watched a video from 1982 where an ex member age 18 or so spoke out for hours about all the heinous activities going on when he was in at the Fort Harrison Hotel.  Toward the end of the video he mentions the name of his roommate, who happened to stay IN another decade.  Why did one see all the abuse and crimes being committed and one didn&#8217;t?  Boggles the mind.  Interesting footnote though.  I was born and raised in the bay area and the Patty Hearst kidnapping was, of course, a huge deal in that era.  It was only a few months ago that I came to find out it was a well known (ex-cop) psychic, OT at the time, that was the one behind her kidnappers being caught.  He met with a classic (for this cult) &#8220;untimely demise&#8221; a few years later in Las Vegas.</p>
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		By: AnEx		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AnEx]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Oct 2023 13:23:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sad to read this story about Kurt Weiland. I had hoped he would escape - but then perhaps he will still do so, who knows. And as Bodil said &quot;It&#039;s not good but it could be worse.&quot;

A couple of things to add if someone is interested:

1. His current wife Liane used to be married to Gary Klingler not Klingle). Klingler was in GO US then did something that got him Oscar&#039;d (never to be posted as an Executive ever again) - perhaps even based on a direct LRH order. He then routed out, got divorced from Liane and remarried to live happily ever after.

2. Helnwein. Danny Masterson and Bijou got married at Helnwein&#039;s castle in Ireland.

3. The photo in the article shows (from left to right):
Myles Mellor
( )
Kurt Weiland
Heber Jentzsch
( )
Jacqueline Kevenaar/Verweij
Klaus Buchele
Karin Pouw
( )

Mellor is now a crossword puzzle creator.
Kevenaar/Verweij is now a website designer.
Buchele works for an insurance company, I believe.

AnEx]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sad to read this story about Kurt Weiland. I had hoped he would escape &#8211; but then perhaps he will still do so, who knows. And as Bodil said &#8220;It&#8217;s not good but it could be worse.&#8221;</p>
<p>A couple of things to add if someone is interested:</p>
<p>1. His current wife Liane used to be married to Gary Klingler not Klingle). Klingler was in GO US then did something that got him Oscar&#8217;d (never to be posted as an Executive ever again) &#8211; perhaps even based on a direct LRH order. He then routed out, got divorced from Liane and remarried to live happily ever after.</p>
<p>2. Helnwein. Danny Masterson and Bijou got married at Helnwein&#8217;s castle in Ireland.</p>
<p>3. The photo in the article shows (from left to right):<br />
Myles Mellor<br />
( )<br />
Kurt Weiland<br />
Heber Jentzsch<br />
( )<br />
Jacqueline Kevenaar/Verweij<br />
Klaus Buchele<br />
Karin Pouw<br />
( )</p>
<p>Mellor is now a crossword puzzle creator.<br />
Kevenaar/Verweij is now a website designer.<br />
Buchele works for an insurance company, I believe.</p>
<p>AnEx</p>
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		By: NICE POST Karen!		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[NICE POST Karen!]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Oct 2023 16:55:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/where-is-kurt-weiland-former-co-osa-international/#comment-544706&quot;&gt;Karen de la Carriere&lt;/a&gt;.

Great info thanks Karen.

I wish there were more time to listen to all interviews done with Mitch detailing all the &quot;latest&quot; info Mitch observed.

Even when a person does a book, there will be so much more info they&#039;ve said only in this or that interview, and it&#039;s a full time job listening to all the interviews important recent ex&#039;s are giving.

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The &quot;KSW #1&quot; &quot;analog&quot; project to me is really something that ought be compared to other &quot;subjects&quot; in human history.

All major subjects will have detailed research and laying out the &quot;originals&quot; of that subject&#039;s key people.

Universities of the highest order then collect the &quot;originals&quot; and most important archives of subject authors.

This &quot;KSW #1&quot; analog project really is just the same type of thing.   It&#039;s really a continuation of the CST/Archives &quot;originals&quot; projects, the &quot;SIR&quot; Project that Gail Poval did at Int Base for RTC for a couple of years.

Transcribing perfectly, zero errors, zero typos, zero transcription errors, of all things from LRH spoken or written or taped and transcribed, the review of that really is a multi year project.

I wish more details be given someday on the latest years of this &quot;KSW # 1/analog&quot; project or projects.

Scientology is all quackery pseudo-therapy and exorcism to me today, but for posterity, to get ALL of LRH&#039;s output into sequencial order, in &quot;originals&quot; format plus in digital easily readable and transcribed format, in one long sequencial output, is a researcher&#039;s dream to have.

That is factually Keeping Scientology Working point Number 1, &quot;Having the correct technology.&quot;   Meaning just having what LRH output, in readable exact form to even absorb what it was this person L. Ron Hubbard was saying or writing.

Not that this subject is valid, it&#039;s not to me, it&#039;s all quackery to me, but it is laudable to do this KSW #1 Project.

Chuck Beatty
old dupe Sea Org course sup who took all Hubbard&#039;s nonsense seriously at one time, it&#039;s crap to me now.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/where-is-kurt-weiland-former-co-osa-international/#comment-544706">Karen de la Carriere</a>.</p>
<p>Great info thanks Karen.</p>
<p>I wish there were more time to listen to all interviews done with Mitch detailing all the &#8220;latest&#8221; info Mitch observed.</p>
<p>Even when a person does a book, there will be so much more info they&#8217;ve said only in this or that interview, and it&#8217;s a full time job listening to all the interviews important recent ex&#8217;s are giving.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>The &#8220;KSW #1&#8221; &#8220;analog&#8221; project to me is really something that ought be compared to other &#8220;subjects&#8221; in human history.</p>
<p>All major subjects will have detailed research and laying out the &#8220;originals&#8221; of that subject&#8217;s key people.</p>
<p>Universities of the highest order then collect the &#8220;originals&#8221; and most important archives of subject authors.</p>
<p>This &#8220;KSW #1&#8221; analog project really is just the same type of thing.   It&#8217;s really a continuation of the CST/Archives &#8220;originals&#8221; projects, the &#8220;SIR&#8221; Project that Gail Poval did at Int Base for RTC for a couple of years.</p>
<p>Transcribing perfectly, zero errors, zero typos, zero transcription errors, of all things from LRH spoken or written or taped and transcribed, the review of that really is a multi year project.</p>
<p>I wish more details be given someday on the latest years of this &#8220;KSW # 1/analog&#8221; project or projects.</p>
<p>Scientology is all quackery pseudo-therapy and exorcism to me today, but for posterity, to get ALL of LRH&#8217;s output into sequencial order, in &#8220;originals&#8221; format plus in digital easily readable and transcribed format, in one long sequencial output, is a researcher&#8217;s dream to have.</p>
<p>That is factually Keeping Scientology Working point Number 1, &#8220;Having the correct technology.&#8221;   Meaning just having what LRH output, in readable exact form to even absorb what it was this person L. Ron Hubbard was saying or writing.</p>
<p>Not that this subject is valid, it&#8217;s not to me, it&#8217;s all quackery to me, but it is laudable to do this KSW #1 Project.</p>
<p>Chuck Beatty<br />
old dupe Sea Org course sup who took all Hubbard&#8217;s nonsense seriously at one time, it&#8217;s crap to me now.</p>
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		By: vǝda		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Oct 2023 14:58:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/where-is-kurt-weiland-former-co-osa-international/#comment-544736&quot;&gt;mark&lt;/a&gt;.

It&#039;s so heartbreaking.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/where-is-kurt-weiland-former-co-osa-international/#comment-544736">mark</a>.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s so heartbreaking.</p>
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		By: Rosemarie		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rosemarie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Oct 2023 13:17:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[these poor souls in there have good intentions.  if they believe in past lives and future lives that weighs in their favor.  but the ones facing a nasty future are the ones with the evil intentions to suppress destroy and control others with this kind of force and rage.  we all know who that is.  his future is assured!   i never knew Mr Weiland but i knew others like him.  they have my sympathy <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f979.png" alt="🥹" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /><img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f64f.png" alt="🙏" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>these poor souls in there have good intentions.  if they believe in past lives and future lives that weighs in their favor.  but the ones facing a nasty future are the ones with the evil intentions to suppress destroy and control others with this kind of force and rage.  we all know who that is.  his future is assured!   i never knew Mr Weiland but i knew others like him.  they have my sympathy 🥹🙏</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Oct 2023 10:43:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The church of scienbollocks, &quot;terminatedly&quot; breaking bodies, hearts, minds, spirits, families, and bank accounts for decades.
The Bridge To Total Ruin.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The church of scienbollocks, &#8220;terminatedly&#8221; breaking bodies, hearts, minds, spirits, families, and bank accounts for decades.<br />
The Bridge To Total Ruin.</p>
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		By: Free Minds, Free Hearts		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Free Minds, Free Hearts]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Oct 2023 20:41:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Like Bodil, I have a sister in the Sea Org.  She has been in for 50 years now, and at Gold the past decades. Mike knows her. She was in the Hole 2004 until ? - she was still there when Ron Miscavige blew, as I recall being told. 

A few years ago she told me that she was digitizing old videos - and now I see this was part of the Analog project. At the time it seemed like the kind of low tech work that a high school intern could do, and I now see it was exactly as I thought, make-work for aging scientologists.  I am so sad for her. I assume she is still doing it though she disconnected from me a couple of years ago.

Hey OSA! Thanks for tracking down my anonymous posts on Mike&#039;s and Tony&#039;s blog and making my sister disconnect from me.  You are so good at tearing apart families and destroying people&#039;s lives. When will you learn that it just makes people enemies of your cult?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like Bodil, I have a sister in the Sea Org.  She has been in for 50 years now, and at Gold the past decades. Mike knows her. She was in the Hole 2004 until ? &#8211; she was still there when Ron Miscavige blew, as I recall being told. </p>
<p>A few years ago she told me that she was digitizing old videos &#8211; and now I see this was part of the Analog project. At the time it seemed like the kind of low tech work that a high school intern could do, and I now see it was exactly as I thought, make-work for aging scientologists.  I am so sad for her. I assume she is still doing it though she disconnected from me a couple of years ago.</p>
<p>Hey OSA! Thanks for tracking down my anonymous posts on Mike&#8217;s and Tony&#8217;s blog and making my sister disconnect from me.  You are so good at tearing apart families and destroying people&#8217;s lives. When will you learn that it just makes people enemies of your cult?</p>
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		By: Karen de la Carriere		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Oct 2023 19:31:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[First of all I am glad Mike Rinder posted this blog drawing attention to missing Kurt Weiland.
Here&#039;s a little anecdote ~~
Jim Jackson (Lawyer and CPA) enlightened me on a new definition of SP.

Laughter.

BORDERLINE SP.

How curious. You would think an SP is an SP per cult definitions, not an ALMOST SP

You are either pregnant, or you are not. You cannot be Borderline pregnant or ALMOST pregnant.

Notwithstanding that OSA INT personnel would hit on me for donations repeatedly and I would give and give .....I got enlightened by a sentence Kurt Weiland made.

Kurt was CO OSA INT for a year or 2 in the 1990s then went up lines He was having some private communication with Jim Jackson one day and obviously had an intention to create a wedge between my lifelong friend Jim and myself

Karen de la Carriere is *Borderline SP* Kurt said. A few months later, after secretly telling Jim Jackson that I was &quot;Borderline SP&quot; Kurt needed some money. He had major dental work.

He called me to sell me L Ron Hubbard collectibles.

oooooooh.

I was so *TEMPTED* to ask him if he wanted money $$$ from a *Borderline SP*
The temptation hovered as we spoke.

BUT

I decided to take the moral high road.

I did not mention that I knew what he said.

I told him I had been regged heavily by ASI for these Battlefield earth prints and gently made some other excuses.

Sadly Kurt has been SP holed for years by tyrant Scientology Dictator David Miscavige who he implicitly obeys

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all I am glad Mike Rinder posted this blog drawing attention to missing Kurt Weiland.<br />
Here&#8217;s a little anecdote ~~<br />
Jim Jackson (Lawyer and CPA) enlightened me on a new definition of SP.</p>
<p>Laughter.</p>
<p>BORDERLINE SP.</p>
<p>How curious. You would think an SP is an SP per cult definitions, not an ALMOST SP</p>
<p>You are either pregnant, or you are not. You cannot be Borderline pregnant or ALMOST pregnant.</p>
<p>Notwithstanding that OSA INT personnel would hit on me for donations repeatedly and I would give and give &#8230;..I got enlightened by a sentence Kurt Weiland made.</p>
<p>Kurt was CO OSA INT for a year or 2 in the 1990s then went up lines He was having some private communication with Jim Jackson one day and obviously had an intention to create a wedge between my lifelong friend Jim and myself</p>
<p>Karen de la Carriere is *Borderline SP* Kurt said. A few months later, after secretly telling Jim Jackson that I was &#8220;Borderline SP&#8221; Kurt needed some money. He had major dental work.</p>
<p>He called me to sell me L Ron Hubbard collectibles.</p>
<p>oooooooh.</p>
<p>I was so *TEMPTED* to ask him if he wanted money $$$ from a *Borderline SP*<br />
The temptation hovered as we spoke.</p>
<p>BUT</p>
<p>I decided to take the moral high road.</p>
<p>I did not mention that I knew what he said.</p>
<p>I told him I had been regged heavily by ASI for these Battlefield earth prints and gently made some other excuses.</p>
<p>Sadly Kurt has been SP holed for years by tyrant Scientology Dictator David Miscavige who he implicitly obeys</p>
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		By: Chris Shugart		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Oct 2023 17:17:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[On one hand, I can have no sympathy for these hapless drones who basically brought their misery on themselves, and have made no effort to remedy their situation. On the other hand, it’s likely that many, if not most are suffering from some degree or variation of Stockholm Syndrome. If you read about the Patty Hearst kidnapping, I think you will see a lot of parallels in her transformation and those at Gold.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On one hand, I can have no sympathy for these hapless drones who basically brought their misery on themselves, and have made no effort to remedy their situation. On the other hand, it’s likely that many, if not most are suffering from some degree or variation of Stockholm Syndrome. If you read about the Patty Hearst kidnapping, I think you will see a lot of parallels in her transformation and those at Gold.</p>
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