OK. HOW do you create Class XIIs when the SHSBC is no longer being delivered anywhere? For that matter, WHO is making auditors? Certainly isn’t in the idle morgs, nor the new and ideal mission network…. How can you have a network with no missions, anyway? Have there been ANY recent stats on # of Class IVs or Vs made, WDAH? Suspect both have been at zero since GAT; and staff hasn’t been paid since GAK was announced to great fanfair…. Way to GO, dwarfenführer! “Read it, Drill it, Do it” has become the new “fast flow” training technique, and the only way you could GET “Class XIIs” in today’s world. Talk about “quicky”. That’s a REAL quick one to pull over ususpecting pre-OTs’ eyes.

I have zero doubt that a “ruin” isn’t just the initial attraction, finding something bigger than yourself that is presented as a way to help mankind as well as yourself is an admirable thing. I get the whole induction thing. I still have difficulty with people staying through the higher OT levels just from the horror I’ve heard so many talk about from OT VII. The BT battle just sounds exhausting. Knowing that so many good, decent, intelligent people have been boiled like the proverbial frog along the way makes me feel much compassion for most still-ins and it’s why I rejoice seeing newly out folks like Secretfornow waking up.

Blue Sky was the second I read, at this point I’ve literally read them all. I’ll look for Take Back Your Life, thanks Dawn!

I personally think you’re spot on.

I got massive massive wins. But all short term happiness, and no abilities. Maybe also, they impart a self perpetuated concept that one is “better” now. “I’m OT therefore I’m not as screwed up as I was because I had those wins back there”.

But I don’t see people actually changing much at all, except for things that might happen anyway as one matures. Confidence bred of competence.

A friend was talking about how she was all introverted and out of comm when she first got in. I laughed at her. “We were teenagers, we were ALL introverted and out of comm!” (and full of important feelings!)

Yes Dawn, I’ve heard it explained just like that from many who were in. I believe that is why people always talk about “wins” but can never explain in any cogent manner, new abilities gained that actually translate into the “homo novus” lie that El Con pitched. I believe it was/is a form of self hypnosis guided by the auditor (unknowingly to any involved but Hubbard).