It’s been a VERY long time since anyone (who’s at all rational) thought the earth was flat. Well over 2000 years. People did think the sun revolved around the earth more recently, but they did not think it was flat. Not only that, but they worked out its size pretty accurately, as Carl Sagan talks about Eratosthenes doing here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8cbIWMv0rI

The problem is that observations, for instance, lead men from time immemorial to conclude that the earth was flat and that the sun moved around it – and even to persecute those who had made more scientific observations which challenged that. Reliance on casual observation, and untested theory, resulted in medicine adopting mistaken notions about basic things like the functions of the heart and lungs for thousands of years. And phenomenon like optical illusions, trick our fallible senses into seeming observations, that can actually be so faulty as to lead to harm or death.

Come to think of it, a good example might be that of the classic illusory oasis in the desert. How many people have observed such a pool of water “for themselves” (as Hubbard and Scientology like to put it) and walked toward it expectantly, only to find it vanished, and themselves still parched? That’s sort of an analogy for Scientology and its “bridge.”

Hi Overrun in California,

I is great to know someone else had experiences similar to mine!! Makes me wonder just how many of “us” are out there. While “in” I never heard of anyone like us. Maybe because it was off policy to discuss case or something. Anyway, good to hear from you.

The 1st time I did TR0 I exteriorized and learned how to stabilize myself in that location. A bit above and behind the body sitting in that chair. Honestly! This experience reminded me I was a spiritual being and to this day it is the MOST validating achievement EVER. Nothing I experienced in the 45 years after compared to or equaled. And, I am a bit embarrassed to admit, I spent about 1/4 million in the hopes of more and even went to the mecca of tech perfection but got nothing there too.

Here’s another validating and rewarding experience I will share. A few months after that TR0 exteriorization I visited a friend at his home and learned he was interested in the comm course I was on. I explained about TR0 and he wanted to do it. We sat in his living room and did the drill. I added bullbaiting and perceived the button he was “sitting on” and pushed it until it flattened. I exteriorized and so did he. We each perceived the other was out of the body and we knew that we each knew that the other knew exactly what we were experiencing. Very, interesting indeed. When I ended the drill we couldn’t stop talking about it all for 4-5 hours. I have NEVER EVER experienced anything like this while “on lines” anywhere. In my final years I asked a supervisor at flag if doing the pro trs course would bring such wins. I got nothing but wishy-washy answers. This along with all I was seeing resulting from DM’s takeover added to the pile of reasons to depart. I mean, if the mecca of technical perfection could not give me what I truly desired then I am done.

Broker. I’ve seen members suffer financially even to the extent of losing homes, jobs, savings and having to file bankruptcy and move into their car.

I too use what I know works and doing so has made life more survivable.

Nice to hear from you.

Very accurate Jens. $camology is the opposite or truth.

Point well made, Jere!

Zola, it’s a financial con, but not necessarily a real estate one. Their real estate dealings have been disastrous in many cases, and Miscavige’s general strategy has lead them to put huge amounts of money into specialized and lavish renovations of properties, that can mostly never be recovered.

I point that out, because I think it’s important to properly understand what they’re up to. And it’s the financial wealth they have also hoarded that may allow them to hold on to the property far longer than might be expected, subsidizing even empty and money-losing locations instead of having to sell them.

Mary Kahn:
“I’d like to know how david miscavige (or any of his followers) can claim “it’s in its pure form unaltered.”

by lying, of course. That’s the only thing keeping scn (somewhat) afloat. The problem with that, of course, is that the TRUTH is out there on the Interwebz, more accessibly and literately than scn’s lies.