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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/words-that-hurt-scientology-nomenclature/#comment-187787&quot;&gt;Jim&lt;/a&gt;.

That is not true, flourish and Prosper]]></description>
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<p>That is not true, flourish and Prosper</p>
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		By: Mike Rinder		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Sep 2017 03:03:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/words-that-hurt-scientology-nomenclature/#comment-188602&quot;&gt;Foolproof&lt;/a&gt;.

Well, you have a different idea of what is important on this blog than I do. If you think people are coming here to find &quot;balanced&quot; information about scientology and it is going to impress them, I think you are delusory. I also think you are delusory about the number of people who agree with you but are afraid of commenting for fear of backlash. 

I think the ratio of supporters to those who have been hurt by scientology is pretty accurately reflected here. There are multiple more who feel they have been hurt than helped.

But the real objection I have is the endless back and forth and prolonging of discussions ad nauseum. This comment is to LAST WEEK&#039;s Terra article. I dont mind anyone commenting on postings. But turning this into a forum for back and forth arguments &quot;shouting across the chasm&quot; I just don&#039;t have time for.

Please, I have asked many times. WHy dont you start a blog to do what you feel needs to be done to cater to the audience you feel is out there.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/words-that-hurt-scientology-nomenclature/#comment-188602">Foolproof</a>.</p>
<p>Well, you have a different idea of what is important on this blog than I do. If you think people are coming here to find &#8220;balanced&#8221; information about scientology and it is going to impress them, I think you are delusory. I also think you are delusory about the number of people who agree with you but are afraid of commenting for fear of backlash. </p>
<p>I think the ratio of supporters to those who have been hurt by scientology is pretty accurately reflected here. There are multiple more who feel they have been hurt than helped.</p>
<p>But the real objection I have is the endless back and forth and prolonging of discussions ad nauseum. This comment is to LAST WEEK&#8217;s Terra article. I dont mind anyone commenting on postings. But turning this into a forum for back and forth arguments &#8220;shouting across the chasm&#8221; I just don&#8217;t have time for.</p>
<p>Please, I have asked many times. WHy dont you start a blog to do what you feel needs to be done to cater to the audience you feel is out there.</p>
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		By: Foolproof		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Sep 2017 01:04:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/words-that-hurt-scientology-nomenclature/#comment-187902&quot;&gt;Terra Cognita&lt;/a&gt;.

Ok Terra, yes, well, thank you. However see what Mike has written about me posting here. 

And now to Mike, surely my postings and the resultant answers are at least somewhat entertaining? Haha! Obviously many of your commenters are interested in what I have to say and even those who don&#039;t post (in support of my comments for fear of being browbeaten by others or for not running with the herd here) I would take a bet are also reading all or many of my comments and the resultant debate. I also notice many favorable comments to mine. And even those who are totally against what I write nevertheless will read what I write, I believe.

Otherwise all I see here (now and for the last several months) are various people letting rip with their own chagrin and rage at Scientology or its Church or Hubbard or DM without some sort of balance and counterpoint and more importantly an alternative view. You know and I know that much of what some people write is nonsense and divorced from the actual situation.  But many of these &quot;things&quot; are seen from an extreme jaundiced viewpoint. But as you know many times when something (bad) is true and has happened I have never denied such. In fact I probably detest what DM and his cronies have done to the Church just as much as you do. I would also like to correct these things. But many of your commenters gain to my mind anyway, a completely false and biased view of Scientology based on the relentless, warped and vitriolic outpourings of some others. I also notice that when I (feel I cogently) reply to a reply to my comment that when my reply is not posted it looks as if the (my) theme is incorrect and I feel that that is an unnecessary bias on your part.   

I won&#039;t be posting that often here if you are concerned at the amount of (your) time my comments provoke but quite a few of your regular commenters have at least expressed the desire that I be allowed to post in response to articles. Even Terra, of whose articles I am extremely critical of as he knows, suggests he would like me to carry on posting, as above. I get the feeling that many of your commenters here who tend to support my comments don&#039;t originate posting (other similar) comments for fear of simply being bashed down by the replies of others, whereas I don&#039;t give  a shit. So, if this blog is simply and really an anti-Scientology site (now) then I will stop posting here. 

And ironically, and which is going to be probably my main point, I feel that my comments, by providing at least some sort of balance, are going to do more to make people still in the Church, sit up and think, and perhaps correct what is going on (unlikely I know but at least there is a chance), rather than click here once - read a few of the vitriolic comments and hastily beat a retreat back to the perceived safer haven of even Miscavige&#039;s church.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/words-that-hurt-scientology-nomenclature/#comment-187902">Terra Cognita</a>.</p>
<p>Ok Terra, yes, well, thank you. However see what Mike has written about me posting here. </p>
<p>And now to Mike, surely my postings and the resultant answers are at least somewhat entertaining? Haha! Obviously many of your commenters are interested in what I have to say and even those who don&#8217;t post (in support of my comments for fear of being browbeaten by others or for not running with the herd here) I would take a bet are also reading all or many of my comments and the resultant debate. I also notice many favorable comments to mine. And even those who are totally against what I write nevertheless will read what I write, I believe.</p>
<p>Otherwise all I see here (now and for the last several months) are various people letting rip with their own chagrin and rage at Scientology or its Church or Hubbard or DM without some sort of balance and counterpoint and more importantly an alternative view. You know and I know that much of what some people write is nonsense and divorced from the actual situation.  But many of these &#8220;things&#8221; are seen from an extreme jaundiced viewpoint. But as you know many times when something (bad) is true and has happened I have never denied such. In fact I probably detest what DM and his cronies have done to the Church just as much as you do. I would also like to correct these things. But many of your commenters gain to my mind anyway, a completely false and biased view of Scientology based on the relentless, warped and vitriolic outpourings of some others. I also notice that when I (feel I cogently) reply to a reply to my comment that when my reply is not posted it looks as if the (my) theme is incorrect and I feel that that is an unnecessary bias on your part.   </p>
<p>I won&#8217;t be posting that often here if you are concerned at the amount of (your) time my comments provoke but quite a few of your regular commenters have at least expressed the desire that I be allowed to post in response to articles. Even Terra, of whose articles I am extremely critical of as he knows, suggests he would like me to carry on posting, as above. I get the feeling that many of your commenters here who tend to support my comments don&#8217;t originate posting (other similar) comments for fear of simply being bashed down by the replies of others, whereas I don&#8217;t give  a shit. So, if this blog is simply and really an anti-Scientology site (now) then I will stop posting here. </p>
<p>And ironically, and which is going to be probably my main point, I feel that my comments, by providing at least some sort of balance, are going to do more to make people still in the Church, sit up and think, and perhaps correct what is going on (unlikely I know but at least there is a chance), rather than click here once &#8211; read a few of the vitriolic comments and hastily beat a retreat back to the perceived safer haven of even Miscavige&#8217;s church.</p>
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		By: KatherineINCali		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Aug 2017 05:15:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/words-that-hurt-scientology-nomenclature/#comment-187839&quot;&gt;M8&lt;/a&gt;.

M8 --

I&#039;m so sorry you&#039;re struggling from being involved in the CO$. 

Why do you think Leah Remini is &quot;Medusaesque&quot;?? What do you mean by that exactly?

 You don&#039;t think she (and Mike, of course) are extremely brave to take on the cult on TV? You don&#039;t think she&#039;s sincere and rightfully livid about what people have gone through?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/words-that-hurt-scientology-nomenclature/#comment-187839">M8</a>.</p>
<p>M8 &#8212;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m so sorry you&#8217;re struggling from being involved in the CO$. </p>
<p>Why do you think Leah Remini is &#8220;Medusaesque&#8221;?? What do you mean by that exactly?</p>
<p> You don&#8217;t think she (and Mike, of course) are extremely brave to take on the cult on TV? You don&#8217;t think she&#8217;s sincere and rightfully livid about what people have gone through?</p>
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		By: Mother Hubbard		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Aug 2017 04:51:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/words-that-hurt-scientology-nomenclature/#comment-187652&quot;&gt;Wynski&lt;/a&gt;.

Let&#039;s get this absolutely straight -  in the UK these days in common parlance &#039;wog&#039; is a derogatory racist insult to any person of colour or more recently African origin. Even after years of reading about Scientology and it&#039;s bizarre practices their use of the word is still shocking to me. I can&#039;t imagine people using the term daily in speech and writing. 
American readers ... imagine your worst racist word and insert it where scientologists use the word wog - yeah now you&#039;re getting it ... revolting. And against the law. 
Scientologists of colour if you use this word - shame on you!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/words-that-hurt-scientology-nomenclature/#comment-187652">Wynski</a>.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s get this absolutely straight &#8211;  in the UK these days in common parlance &#8216;wog&#8217; is a derogatory racist insult to any person of colour or more recently African origin. Even after years of reading about Scientology and it&#8217;s bizarre practices their use of the word is still shocking to me. I can&#8217;t imagine people using the term daily in speech and writing.<br />
American readers &#8230; imagine your worst racist word and insert it where scientologists use the word wog &#8211; yeah now you&#8217;re getting it &#8230; revolting. And against the law.<br />
Scientologists of colour if you use this word &#8211; shame on you!</p>
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		By: KatherineINCali		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Aug 2017 19:45:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/words-that-hurt-scientology-nomenclature/#comment-187787&quot;&gt;Jim&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes, there&#039;s a special word for pedophiles in $cientology: PROTECTED. 

They&#039;re protected by the organization in hopes of the cult keeping up a good PR image. The victims are punished while the disgusting criminal is protected. 

Makes me sick to my stomach.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/words-that-hurt-scientology-nomenclature/#comment-187787">Jim</a>.</p>
<p>Yes, there&#8217;s a special word for pedophiles in $cientology: PROTECTED. </p>
<p>They&#8217;re protected by the organization in hopes of the cult keeping up a good PR image. The victims are punished while the disgusting criminal is protected. </p>
<p>Makes me sick to my stomach.</p>
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		By: KatherineINCali		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Aug 2017 19:41:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/words-that-hurt-scientology-nomenclature/#comment-187927&quot;&gt;KatherineINCali&lt;/a&gt;.

Just in case some people aren&#039;t sure what I&#039;m referring to:

Mike made a reply about the endless back and forth with Foolproof and how it&#039;s a waste of time &#038; bandwidth. I agree.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/words-that-hurt-scientology-nomenclature/#comment-187927">KatherineINCali</a>.</p>
<p>Just in case some people aren&#8217;t sure what I&#8217;m referring to:</p>
<p>Mike made a reply about the endless back and forth with Foolproof and how it&#8217;s a waste of time &amp; bandwidth. I agree.</p>
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		By: KatherineINCali		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Aug 2017 19:37:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[MIKE: 

I&#039;m replying to your post to me &#038; everyone else here because there was no reply button. Don&#039;t know what&#039;s up with my phone today. 

Anyway, I understand completely. You got it. 

Cheers.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MIKE: </p>
<p>I&#8217;m replying to your post to me &amp; everyone else here because there was no reply button. Don&#8217;t know what&#8217;s up with my phone today. </p>
<p>Anyway, I understand completely. You got it. </p>
<p>Cheers.</p>
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		By: Mike Rinder		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Aug 2017 19:32:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/words-that-hurt-scientology-nomenclature/#comment-187924&quot;&gt;KatherineINCali&lt;/a&gt;.

I am trying to put an end to the endless back and forth that Foolproof foments in the comments. He stirs people up and they feel the need to respond and then he responds with something else and pretty soon there are endless strings of comments ABOUT what Foolproof thinks and what the person responding thinks and the original topic gets lost.

This is a textbook trolling activity.

New comments that are on point are fine.

The endless back and forth with Foolproof is tiring, boring and distracting. And it accomplishes nothing. 

I am making this statement for all who wish to engage in back and forth with Foolproof -- including Foolproof. Let him start his own blog as I have suggested on more than one occasion. He can do whatever he wants there.

I am sending the back and forth comments to the trash. They are a waste of bandwidth.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/words-that-hurt-scientology-nomenclature/#comment-187924">KatherineINCali</a>.</p>
<p>I am trying to put an end to the endless back and forth that Foolproof foments in the comments. He stirs people up and they feel the need to respond and then he responds with something else and pretty soon there are endless strings of comments ABOUT what Foolproof thinks and what the person responding thinks and the original topic gets lost.</p>
<p>This is a textbook trolling activity.</p>
<p>New comments that are on point are fine.</p>
<p>The endless back and forth with Foolproof is tiring, boring and distracting. And it accomplishes nothing. </p>
<p>I am making this statement for all who wish to engage in back and forth with Foolproof &#8212; including Foolproof. Let him start his own blog as I have suggested on more than one occasion. He can do whatever he wants there.</p>
<p>I am sending the back and forth comments to the trash. They are a waste of bandwidth.</p>
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		By: KatherineINCali		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Aug 2017 19:07:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/words-that-hurt-scientology-nomenclature/#comment-187643&quot;&gt;Foolproof&lt;/a&gt;.

Foolproof --

I&#039;m replying here because your last post to me didn&#039;t have a reply button to click. 

I&#039;d like to say something. I hate arguing. Debate is fine and healthy, but I hate arguing and having tempers flare and whatnot. I&#039;m a nice person. I&#039;ve always tried to do my best to be kind and loving to my family &#038; friends. And I&#039;ve always tried to be kind to people I don&#039;t know. 

My point is, I have no interest in never-ending drama and arguments with you. But you have to realize something -- it&#039;s very difficult to understand how a person can believe Hubbard, especially when it&#039;s been proven time and again that he was a liar, a hypocrite, a racist, abusive and sought to control his adherents...among other things. 

So that&#039;s it. All I wanted to say.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/words-that-hurt-scientology-nomenclature/#comment-187643">Foolproof</a>.</p>
<p>Foolproof &#8212;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m replying here because your last post to me didn&#8217;t have a reply button to click. </p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to say something. I hate arguing. Debate is fine and healthy, but I hate arguing and having tempers flare and whatnot. I&#8217;m a nice person. I&#8217;ve always tried to do my best to be kind and loving to my family &amp; friends. And I&#8217;ve always tried to be kind to people I don&#8217;t know. </p>
<p>My point is, I have no interest in never-ending drama and arguments with you. But you have to realize something &#8212; it&#8217;s very difficult to understand how a person can believe Hubbard, especially when it&#8217;s been proven time and again that he was a liar, a hypocrite, a racist, abusive and sought to control his adherents&#8230;among other things. </p>
<p>So that&#8217;s it. All I wanted to say.</p>
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