I think as none of us have had the benefit of GAT II technology and rcyling the entire bridge several times we simply cannot trust our perceptions of what actually is.

Oh. Oh. Oh. but Potpie….can you IMAGINE the infighting that must go on in orgs over the scant few whales they might own being regged for the org down the road???? Yipes! I remember all out WARS started between missions and orgs or orgs and orgs for FAR less…must be tense at the class V registrar level.

Christ, even their phraseology sounds like fucking Amway (the next org to “Go IDEAL”), like Amway’s big “GO DIAMOND” weekends. Gawd, how bloody miserable.

Its also my opinion that the Still-Ins’ abdication of KRC with regard Ideal Org fundraising is spilling over into their KRC with Scientology as regards their other dynamics as well, i.e., their cases, their training, their family lives, their work, speech, hobbies, etc., in every way that the Church of Scientology can and does touch their lives, they are ceding control to it by their enforced (and self-enforced) “not know”.

I visited SLC for the first time earlier this year and was taken aback by how (genuinely) friendly and welcoming the LDSers were. Walking around Temple Square (Flag for Mormons?) I assumed all the buildings would be off limits to outsiders and was surprised at some of the bemused faces as to why I wasn’t going inside for a look around (as opposed to peering through windows outside). No one preached to me at any time. No one pulled me aside to sell me something. When I had a question I went up to someone, asked, and was given a straight answer. It seemed a world away from what I’d been used to.

I’m well aware this church is guilty of various things including, but not limited to, financial irregularities, discrimination, disconnection, rewriting its history, lying, plagiarism, suppressing alternate viewpoints, censoring criticism and psychological abuse. But it does seem to be evolving with the times, albeit incredibly slowly. The people I came into contact with, including those in neighbouring Provo, seemed bloody nice people and genuine at that. Caring, compassionate and kind. Three traits sadly lacking in the Co$.

Draco, they do know. But they need to pretend, I think, because once they admit to themselves that they know, then they have to take responsibility for knowing, which means they’d have to do something about it, even if it would be merely withdrawing their own support. Its the KRC triangle – Knowledge, Responsibility, Control. Call it KRC or call it what you like. They have to obey without question (be irresponsible and at effect) because assuming responsibility would entail acquiring knowledge and steering the rudder of their own lives, which, given the unworkability of any program which has as its policy “having to have before you can do” means that they’d have to disagree with COB, and all that would entail for them. Their ability to control themselves keeps diminishing. Their KRC Triangle on Ideal Org Fundraising keeps getting smaller and smaller and at some point there will be no space left in the triangle and the whole thing will implode. That’s unless some attack from the outside doesn’t topple the cult.

Joe and Cindy,

Bingo! Nails right on the heads, guys. Gotta have a game and DM knows this or the game will be “getting him” (which, of course, it already is, as we well know, but of which the still-in sheeple are largely ignorant).

And I’d like to add that IMO this Ideal Org game, which only requires money and fundraising for money, is something that the Still-Ins can CONFRONT. They can confront it. What they can’t confront is that THIS TOO is not working. On some level they know that the Ideal Org Program can’t and won’t work and is in fact failing, but for the sheeple this is their convenient non-confront of that and so they cling to it. Miscavige is capitalizing on their non-confront, in every sense of the word.