Taylor, just whom do you think is going to pay the rent? And how? Buy food? Decent clothing? Transportation? Are YOU living the lifestyle of which you seem to be pushing on others? In my mission days, our auditors were paid the highest wages of anyone in the group, INCLUDING the mission owner. We considered them the top of the heap in value to the organization. They were the ones who produced the greatest value for the mission…and the pcs.

Quite right, thegman77, the CoS is only about money-motivation; the rank and file members can only feel introverted by lack of it.

Taylor, Auditing is being delivered in the Indie field for money and it is doing well in the free enterprise system. People are gladly paying the going rate IF and only IF the auditor is standard and good and has good TR’s and high ARC and applies the tech standardly to good result. And the going rate is much less than the church used to audit. If people were to audit for free or for “a meal”, there would be far less auditing going on as these people would have to get “regular jobs” t pay the rent.

Dollar Morgue, I’m trying to make sure I duplicated your comment correctly. Did you mean, “RCS burning everyone at the stake that doesn’t agree with them…etc?” I don’t see Indies being that suppressive to burn everyone at the stake who doesn’t agree with them…. what did you intend to say? Is this a typo?

I think it is even lower than Treason. It is Confusion condition cuz they can’t see what is LRH and what is Miscavige, can’t see that he has altered the tech, and can’t see that no one does one post anymore, all are taken off post to reg reg reg, so there is a confusion of what an org board is, what it is supposed to do and on what their purpose and hat it. The purpose used to be to make auditors, Clears and OT’s. Now the purpose is to reg donations of money for no exchange given. That is Confusion of their own purpose and hat.

“It all sounds so horribly cold and one-way.” It only sounds that way, Poet, because it IS that way. Warmth, caring, being interested, helping…all those are long gone, at least since the early 80s. All that’s asked for now is money, money, money and all that’s offered in return is status, status, status.

+1!

Hmm, Aquamarine. I agree with you (and thanks for the correction on condition of Treason as a betrayal after trust).

In Scientologese analysis, I might argue that CoS is in a lower condition precisely because it did not find out what was needed and wanted and provide it (and conversely, find out what is clearly _not_ needed or wanted and quit doing those things).

By failing to apply Non-Existence (and worse, pretending to a higher condition), it has sunk lower and lower in the conditions.

As others have noted, Scientology actually has many of the tools to fix itself. Probably not all, but many of them.

Whitestar – WOW, you hit it on the nose.

“and i think it’s a main reason why agencies like the FBI don’t bother with them……….when they look into it, they see a floundering group of people that will eventually do themselves in.
if they thought for one second scientology was a formidable force, that they were growing and gaining steam, miscavige would already be in jail.”

I’ve been racking my head with WHY hasn’t that mother f’er been hauled away. You make a great point and I can’t help but add these !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!