Comments on: 10,000 Onto Anything

By: onceuponatime

onceuponatime — Fri, 09 Sep 2022 04:06:06 +0000

In reply to Dave. I don't disagree with you, I do think this is a likely scenario. I'll just say that Clear/CCRDs have undergone several evolutions/changes since the early 2000s. I wouldn't call a CCRD a standard setup action for someone arriving at Flag, but I also wouldn't say they're uncommon. Some people go to Flag just to sort out their Clear status after all.

By: Dave

Dave — Fri, 09 Sep 2022 00:23:26 +0000

In reply to onceuponatime. As I mentioned earlier: He said he *attested" to the State of Clear on the Superpower Setup Pgm. The most likely scenario is that his Clear/Not Clear status was checked into with a Clear Certainty Rundown. This "Yes/No on Clear" has been a routine part of setups for just about anyone (who has an extensive auditing history) arriving for Major Service at Flag since the early 2000's. I'm betting on the CCRD and an Attest based on the results of the CCRD. All part of setting the Case up for Superpower. SOP.

By: onceuponatime

onceuponatime — Thu, 08 Sep 2022 20:53:25 +0000

In reply to Peridot. Yeah, I thought about that too. He does specifically say he went Clear on set-ups, but people can also go Clear on SP.

By: Peridot

Peridot — Thu, 08 Sep 2022 12:01:43 +0000

Super Power rundowns include a lot of “NED” – New Era Dianetics, and many of the auditors are Class VI, Class IX auditors with a lot of skill. Therefore, for the standard in Scientology as those standards currently exist, as a result of running lots of NED, a person can “go Clear” during Super Power auditing. This is the reason. Like Grade Chart auditing, the preclear is running a lot traditional Dianetic auditing processes.

By: Mick Wenlock

Mick Wenlock — Thu, 08 Sep 2022 02:33:52 +0000

In reply to Jeff Hawkins.

Hi Jeff!!

Excellent points. Was always a sticking point for me whenever I heard about this fantasy plans. I was once inspired to waste some time counting up the NPI ( for those who may not know what NPI is; New People In – a statistic measuring how many people came into the org in one week) for the Milan Org.

Again – for context – Milan is an org in Italy by the early 1980’s it was very big – it had expanded quite a bit but was also prone to exaggerated statistics. But it was a fun place to go and see!

Moving on – in the late 80’s I was at the Stats Bu in LA and just for fun I started adding up the NPI on a cumulative basis and I realized that, somewhere in the 1980’s Milan org seemed to have routed the entire population of Milan through its doors.

No wonder the stats were down they had already seen everybody. LOL

By: onceuponatime

onceuponatime — Wed, 07 Sep 2022 15:00:00 +0000

One thing I’ll comment on, because I see some speculation about it in the article and in the comments, setups for SP could’ve included actions where he runs NED. The most likely candidates would be PTS RD, C/S 53, GF 40X or repairing past incorrectly run chains. Any of these could’ve included running more NED, so he could’ve gone Clear. Another option is that something in his past NED auditing was noticed when he arrived at Flag and they decided he needed a CCRD.

Of course it’s all BS, Clear isn’t a real state, etc. I don’t believe in any of it, I’m just providing some additional information/clarification

By: GK

GK — Wed, 07 Sep 2022 05:06:18 +0000

Doesn’t going clear mean you have no more acne?

By: otherles

otherles — Wed, 07 Sep 2022 03:37:21 +0000

In reply to gorillavee. Of course they will.

By: Mary Kahn

Mary Kahn — Wed, 07 Sep 2022 02:15:21 +0000

In reply to Oscar Polk. My comment was snark. Clear is a joke. An ABSOLUTEly attainable joke.

By: Dave Gibbons

Dave Gibbons — Tue, 06 Sep 2022 23:34:10 +0000

Per my reading; he didn’t say he *went* Clear on the setups, he said he *attested* Clear.
[toggle scientology world on] The setups probably included a Clear Certainty Rundown. The CCRD most likely sorted out past Dianetic auditing or some such. [toggle scientology world off]. 🙂