They probably could clear the Sea Org but they are not even trying to do that. The SO is their slave force and were they to make them all self-determimed they would lose all of their slaves.

You’re right on everything, Richard. World over-population is too complex and weighty an off – topic subject for this blog. I like your idea about free birth control for the 3rd World poor. Ultimately, I don’t think its a good OVERALL solution but it would certainly help in the short term. Again this subject touches on many other vital problems. For our purposes now, I’ll summarize with this: I’m not theoretically a Christian, because I don’t and have never believed in the Virgin Birth. That said, I think Christian principles are beautiful, helpful and inspiring. One of them is “You are your brother’s keeper”. Ok. Well if that’s true, WHO is “my brother”? My interpretation of this is that it really IS a very small world and that we really ARE all brothers and sisters under the skin and that our policies as individuals, groups and nations, should keep this principle as a rudder. Of course, there will always be those who take what they can and don’t give back, who just sit back and get worse, and that’s not fair to the givers or to themselves. But there are so many wretched people out there whose lives could and would change ENORMOUSLY with the right kind of help – people who would take this help and use it and get better! So maybe, one’s “brother” is just the person in front of you, who needs help? And if one CAN help in some way, well, go ahead and don’t worry, just do it. There’s some beggar on the street in front of you asking for money. Well, maybe he’s just going to drink and drug some more with your money, your hard earned money OR if you do what Pope Francis says (and believe me, I’m no Catholic, but I like Francis) you LOOK at this person, you get it across to this person that you KNOW that he or she is SOMEBODY, and then, you give what money you want to. Francis says its not the money you give, its the acknowledgement that communicates to such people, however fleetingly, that you know that they are human, like you, and that this helps them MORE than the dollar or so you put in their cup.

OMG here I am on another tangent. I’d better stop 🙂

Thanks, Ann, for acknowledging this soap box rant 🙂

Totally got your point, WL. Totally agree with you too. 100%!

As for Hubbard’s policy being UTTERLY violated, i.e., the “having to have before you can do” policy, or maxim or whatever, not only is it Hubbard policy it happens to be utterly 100@ true!

Nothing, but nothing gets created that way; nothing in the entire universe grows and expands by having to have before doing. NOTHING!

And NOT because Hubbard said it was so, btw, but because its just true, whether Hubbard thought it up or stole it from someone else is not the issue right now – its just true!

Having do have before you can do is NOT a “start”, its a very effective “stop”. Anyway, my attempts to communicate this to the staff of my org – highly trained people, WL! People who taught ME and drilled ME and thereby showed ME the workability of “Be, Do Have” – these people, each of them, handled my comm in 3 basic ways: 1) Non answers that sounded like answers, 2) No response at all and 3) Evaluation that the problem was MINE because of misunderstood words and/or O/Ws.

Thanks for reading this rant. I’m still kind of broken-recordish about this. How can they, how could they, NOT see that this policy was being utterly violated, this workable policy trash-canned and replaced with “having to have before we can do” Miscavige policy and its accompanying Ideal M’Org Program, a doomed course of action in every way, not the least of which being the total absorption of staff”s energies and publics’ resources?

Hi Aqua – This could be a lengthy discussion on a daily blog. It will probably come up again. I had a strange thought this morning – God wants more people on earth so more people can experience life in a body which goes along with some Christian and Eastern religious beliefs.

I only took one biology course in college. The professor described humans, in a strictly biological sense, as “large dirty mammals”. He also said the only difference between man and the apes was a larger brain to body mass ratio. He had his thoughts and opinions on things.

Earth is an 8,000 miles in diameter rock hurtling through space with 3 miles of breathable atmosphere. The carrying capacity of earth is indeterminate so there needs to be a balance between spiritual and religious belief and factual reality.

For now I’ll go with low cost or free worldwide birth control and the empowerment of women which gives them choice in the matter of child bearing.

Like I said, this could be a lengthy discussion. That said, The Chinese one child only policy wasn’t draconian by most accounts. It was accomplished to whatever extent it succeeded by family planning, medical services and an acceptance of it as a social norm. They’ve now changed it to a “two child only” policy, maybe because an increasing populace keeps the economy moving along. Oh well.

End of itsa (it is a . . . )

Thanks for your comment Aqua – it’s far more complicated than simply being ‘deluded’ or ‘impaired’ for those still in the trap. It is a trap after all, a very sticky and insidious web, and not simple to get out of it.

But that’s a whole other topic. My point was that those in management are violating a basic policy of Hubbard’s which is you should not have to have things (eg. large expensive buildings) in order to do (ie making more ‘Clears’). Just an observation of the ironic double standards of scn management.

Yes sister!!!!!

Aqua, I love how you think! Definitely clear and not impaired. Good comment

That’s the question I ask myself all the time, White Light.

I try to think of them as I do people who are caught in the vise of drug or alcohol addiction, or of those living with severe mental illness.

I’m not being funny or sarcastic. I have compassion for people dealing with these issues.

Most of the time I don’t have compassion for the still ins, because I think of them as rational people…who somehow are also…completely nuts.

You see? I can’t think with it. WHY…HOW…can rational people be so nuts?

So instead I think of them as impaired.

If I think of the deluded still ins with the mindset of one who is observing people suffering from some impairment and therefore largely incapable of rational thought – if I consider them from the viewpoint of being impaired in some way and as such incapable of sanity and truthfulness and rational productive decisions, it helps me to have compassion and patience for them.