I’m sorry. Apparently there is some problem with the audio rights for territories outside the US. The publisher is trying to sort it out.

Richard, Primal Scream Therapy was based on the idea that past traumatic or painful incidents needed to be revisited and resolved, so it seems conceptually rather similar to Scientology. And it was a product of the same era as Hubbard’s “work”.

You might have found a lot of commonalities, had you gotten into it. But maybe it was better at that point to leave it behind you.

Chuck – Thanks for the information. That clears it up for me.

P.S. My girlfriend wasn’t that far gone as the most extremes mentioned in the above excerpt! As a matter of fact she was smarter than me and could always beat me at Scrabble!

Thinking back on it we didn’t go into a whole lot of details but mainly agreed that we had devoted a lot of our lives to progressing in our cults. The head of her group dictated a lot of the personal life of the members.

The main focus of “The Center” as she called it was that to know your own Truth you need to consult your Innermost Feelings. Something like that. I don’t know what specific “processes” they might have had to do so. Sometimes when she had a major decision to make I could tell she was checking her feelings and I might add my two cents from some still active beliefs in parts of “Scientology Tek” – Lol

Here are a couple of excerpts from the wikipedia article on “Center For Feeling Therapy”.

The Center for Feeling Therapy was a radical psychotherapy community that existed in Los Angeles between 1971 and 1980.

Patients had their lives controlled by their therapists in the minutest detail. The patients were told what to wear, what to do, which job to hold, whom to have sex with and how often, whom to date, whom to marry, whether to have children or not, how much they could weigh (for women), and, most importantly, whether or not they could leave. Almost all patients who expressed a desire to leave were informed by their therapists that they were still far too disordered mentally to succeed in the outside world.
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Mike’s busier than ever.

What I was hoping as an answer was a list:

Linda Hamel
Warren McShane
Lynn Farney

are starters who I pretty much know will be allowed to read it.

next who come to mind, would be

Fritz Kevenaar
Donatella Kevenaar
the internet guy and anyone in his dept, forget his name, he’s Italian

The late Paul Adams and other ex’s helped start up a WikiScienotlogy encyclopedia, and that is a project I was asked to help spur along, and truly a ScienoWiki would be good to keep uptodate staff of OSA there, so making outsiders, and outside officials aware of who will have the paperwork to request from Scientology in court cases, etc.

OSA and DSA offices worldwide always have some people manning up those positions.

The OSA and DSA people do have to read the critical books as they come out.

The names of those Scientologist staff of OSA and DSA offices are always important, as those people, (example Frank Oliver, example Mike himself), do become defectors someday, and tell their repeating stories of this whole Scientology mess that goes on and on.

Even though we all know there is the decline of interest, Scientology has this apparancy of declining into emptiness, the OSA and DSA staff have in the past been allowed to read, and are actually told to read, for prediction purposes and “defense” purposes, the critical books by ex’s.

Was one of the characteristics “information control” meaning censoring of the members from speaking about certain things about the group?

Have you read the Robert Jay Lifton set of criteria for a “totalistic group” and of those criteria of Lifton’s, which were present in both of your two’s groups?

Thank you