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		By: Rozsa		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Dec 2022 13:09:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/a-billion-years-for-christmas/#comment-506599&quot;&gt;KFrancis&lt;/a&gt;.

What was beautiful at the end of OT III? What did the meter show? How did you know you were done?]]></description>
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<p>What was beautiful at the end of OT III? What did the meter show? How did you know you were done?</p>
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		By: KFrancis		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2022 10:20:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/a-billion-years-for-christmas/#comment-507201&quot;&gt;Peridot&lt;/a&gt;.

Soo Nice…..what a very thoughtful comment.]]></description>
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<p>Soo Nice…..what a very thoughtful comment.</p>
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		By: Peridot		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2022 23:22:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/a-billion-years-for-christmas/#comment-506599&quot;&gt;KFrancis&lt;/a&gt;.

Dear KFrancis: I also enjoyed each action I did, including I found the L&#039;s to be stabilizing and illuminating. Loved all the training I did, especially Data Series, and got a lot  out of Super Power. 

What do I mean by this: Next to people with whom I work, it takes a lot to get me to a spot of out and out hate and criticism of others. I can wade through peppery discussions without being too easily agitated or &quot;keyed in&quot; or &quot;triggered&quot; or whatever you want to call it. I can remain composed to hear and comprehend many viewpoints and not flip out or feel inclined to scold or correct others all based on my opinion only. 

This kind of diplomatic skill and willing comprehension of fellow humans is constructive and helpful. When employed sincerely, these make for good relationship skills. Also, my willingness to duplicate. I honed that through auditor training and co-auditing on the Objectives. Enjoyed those actions very much.

Too bad this once promising garden (Scientology) got so overgrown with weeds. Like you and many others in this blog community, I do, however, take a few plants that I seeded and nourished with me.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/a-billion-years-for-christmas/#comment-506599">KFrancis</a>.</p>
<p>Dear KFrancis: I also enjoyed each action I did, including I found the L&#8217;s to be stabilizing and illuminating. Loved all the training I did, especially Data Series, and got a lot  out of Super Power. </p>
<p>What do I mean by this: Next to people with whom I work, it takes a lot to get me to a spot of out and out hate and criticism of others. I can wade through peppery discussions without being too easily agitated or &#8220;keyed in&#8221; or &#8220;triggered&#8221; or whatever you want to call it. I can remain composed to hear and comprehend many viewpoints and not flip out or feel inclined to scold or correct others all based on my opinion only. </p>
<p>This kind of diplomatic skill and willing comprehension of fellow humans is constructive and helpful. When employed sincerely, these make for good relationship skills. Also, my willingness to duplicate. I honed that through auditor training and co-auditing on the Objectives. Enjoyed those actions very much.</p>
<p>Too bad this once promising garden (Scientology) got so overgrown with weeds. Like you and many others in this blog community, I do, however, take a few plants that I seeded and nourished with me.</p>
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		By: freebeeing		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Dec 2022 19:13:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/a-billion-years-for-christmas/#comment-506506&quot;&gt;KFrancis&lt;/a&gt;.

As another posted. Bill Robertson died from throat cancer at I believe the age of 54. He certainly finished Excalibur and another 20 OT levels he invented yet still he got cancer and died from it. I&#039;m surprised KFrancis that you would not be aware of this or perhaps you just discount reality to stay comfortable in your beliefs.]]></description>
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<p>As another posted. Bill Robertson died from throat cancer at I believe the age of 54. He certainly finished Excalibur and another 20 OT levels he invented yet still he got cancer and died from it. I&#8217;m surprised KFrancis that you would not be aware of this or perhaps you just discount reality to stay comfortable in your beliefs.</p>
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		By: Mockingbird		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Dec 2022 04:08:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/a-billion-years-for-christmas/#comment-506706&quot;&gt;Elizabeth Turner&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you!

I found the entire collection disturbing, to put it mildly!

The original post has a bit more of the same information as well as a breakdown of the fake scientific credentials Hubbard claimed!

https://mbnest.blogspot.com/2015/11/mass-murder-in-scientology-standard-tech.html]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/a-billion-years-for-christmas/#comment-506706">Elizabeth Turner</a>.</p>
<p>Thank you!</p>
<p>I found the entire collection disturbing, to put it mildly!</p>
<p>The original post has a bit more of the same information as well as a breakdown of the fake scientific credentials Hubbard claimed!</p>
<p><a href="https://mbnest.blogspot.com/2015/11/mass-murder-in-scientology-standard-tech.html" rel="nofollow ugc">https://mbnest.blogspot.com/2015/11/mass-murder-in-scientology-standard-tech.html</a></p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2022 21:29:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/a-billion-years-for-christmas/#comment-506699&quot;&gt;Susan Meyer&lt;/a&gt;.

I&#039;m not in the least offended and I apologize if I offended you or anyone else here.  I share your conviction that faith in something is necessary for each of us.  I suppose the only possible argument would be or could be how,  and in what, one&#039;s faith is placed, but I think its wrong to quibble with others&#039; beliefs because what gives someone help and sustenance and inspiration is sacred to that person.

 I have my own &quot;brand&quot; of faith, my own spiritual foundation one might call it, although it does not fully conform or wholly align with any established religion of which I&#039;m aware.  I deeply believe in God or whatever one chooses to call God, which is a name for a force of some sort outside the realm of our 5 senses.  Life is an overall miracle comprised of millions, billions of miracles that each of us wants and needs explained.  For the record, i love and admire Christian PRINCIPLES and consider them principles to practice and/or aspire to whenever possible but I just don&#039;t believe in Christian &quot;magic&quot;.  Nor do I believe in any Jewish magic, by the way.   

But then, many people do believe in these things and its fine by me. To illustrate:
A dear friend of my late mother, who was herself a mother of 3 children, told me that it had taken 10 years for her to become pregnant.  She and her husband had been young Catholics, 32 years old, married for 10 years and childless.

 They had wed barely out of their teens and had both been to doctors and pronounced healthy and fertile, etc. etc but yet she hadn&#039;t become pregnant, Dottie told me that finally she went to her priest and the priest told her to make a Novena (I think that&#039;s what its called) to the Virgin Mary.  Though not particularly devout at the time nor was her husband. But she&#039;s been married for 10 years, had a healthy sex life with her husband, certainly had been doing nothing to prevent conception yet had remained childless, and was now desperate to have a baby.  She did the Novena and became pregnant soon afterwards, a totally healthy pregnancy, and a baby boy. Then,   she wanted more children and made more Novenas, etc., and had quickly following 2 more healthy pregnancies, another  boy and and then girl.  This lady, beloved of our family, just the nicest person, swore that the Novena(s) to the Virgin, her prayers and so forth allowed her to become pregnant.  Now, do I believe this?  No.  But SHE does (did, she passed away years ago) and so would not dream of contradicting her or even suggesting that other factors might have caused her to - whatever - relax enough inside or whatever so that conception finally occurred.  Today I believe that her FAITH in something caused it because her faith changed her.  So, long story short, I think its important to have faith in SOMETHING although what each person firmly believes can vary, and that&#039;s oK.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/a-billion-years-for-christmas/#comment-506699">Susan Meyer</a>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not in the least offended and I apologize if I offended you or anyone else here.  I share your conviction that faith in something is necessary for each of us.  I suppose the only possible argument would be or could be how,  and in what, one&#8217;s faith is placed, but I think its wrong to quibble with others&#8217; beliefs because what gives someone help and sustenance and inspiration is sacred to that person.</p>
<p> I have my own &#8220;brand&#8221; of faith, my own spiritual foundation one might call it, although it does not fully conform or wholly align with any established religion of which I&#8217;m aware.  I deeply believe in God or whatever one chooses to call God, which is a name for a force of some sort outside the realm of our 5 senses.  Life is an overall miracle comprised of millions, billions of miracles that each of us wants and needs explained.  For the record, i love and admire Christian PRINCIPLES and consider them principles to practice and/or aspire to whenever possible but I just don&#8217;t believe in Christian &#8220;magic&#8221;.  Nor do I believe in any Jewish magic, by the way.   </p>
<p>But then, many people do believe in these things and its fine by me. To illustrate:<br />
A dear friend of my late mother, who was herself a mother of 3 children, told me that it had taken 10 years for her to become pregnant.  She and her husband had been young Catholics, 32 years old, married for 10 years and childless.</p>
<p> They had wed barely out of their teens and had both been to doctors and pronounced healthy and fertile, etc. etc but yet she hadn&#8217;t become pregnant, Dottie told me that finally she went to her priest and the priest told her to make a Novena (I think that&#8217;s what its called) to the Virgin Mary.  Though not particularly devout at the time nor was her husband. But she&#8217;s been married for 10 years, had a healthy sex life with her husband, certainly had been doing nothing to prevent conception yet had remained childless, and was now desperate to have a baby.  She did the Novena and became pregnant soon afterwards, a totally healthy pregnancy, and a baby boy. Then,   she wanted more children and made more Novenas, etc., and had quickly following 2 more healthy pregnancies, another  boy and and then girl.  This lady, beloved of our family, just the nicest person, swore that the Novena(s) to the Virgin, her prayers and so forth allowed her to become pregnant.  Now, do I believe this?  No.  But SHE does (did, she passed away years ago) and so would not dream of contradicting her or even suggesting that other factors might have caused her to &#8211; whatever &#8211; relax enough inside or whatever so that conception finally occurred.  Today I believe that her FAITH in something caused it because her faith changed her.  So, long story short, I think its important to have faith in SOMETHING although what each person firmly believes can vary, and that&#8217;s oK.</p>
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		By: Aquamarine		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aquamarine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2022 20:13:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/a-billion-years-for-christmas/#comment-506646&quot;&gt;Cindy&lt;/a&gt;.

I see.]]></description>
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<p>I see.</p>
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		By: Cindy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cindy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2022 19:35:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/a-billion-years-for-christmas/#comment-506710&quot;&gt;Angry Gay Pope&lt;/a&gt;.

thanks.  That counts too.  I think they went out gradient with him on the Purif an he should have ease into the treadmeal on more of a gradient.]]></description>
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<p>thanks.  That counts too.  I think they went out gradient with him on the Purif an he should have ease into the treadmeal on more of a gradient.</p>
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		By: Angry Gay Pope		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2022 18:09:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/a-billion-years-for-christmas/#comment-506510&quot;&gt;Cindy&lt;/a&gt;.

Don&#039;t forget South Park&#039;s Isaac Hayes who died on a treadmill during the purif! (Stroke)]]></description>
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<p>Don&#8217;t forget South Park&#8217;s Isaac Hayes who died on a treadmill during the purif! (Stroke)</p>
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		By: Angry Gay Pope		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Angry Gay Pope]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2022 18:08:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/a-billion-years-for-christmas/#comment-506621&quot;&gt;Mike Rinder&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes correct. That might have cost still $75,000]]></description>
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<p>Yes correct. That might have cost still $75,000</p>
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