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		By: Fred Haseney		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 May 2022 23:53:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/a-letter-from-ron/#comment-481519&quot;&gt;xTeamXenu75to03chuckbeatty&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you, Chuck, for your keen insight, observation and information. I have that Peter Moon interview ready to play--thanks!]]></description>
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<p>Thank you, Chuck, for your keen insight, observation and information. I have that Peter Moon interview ready to play&#8211;thanks!</p>
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		By: xTeamXenu75to03chuckbeatty		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 May 2022 01:06:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/a-letter-from-ron/#comment-481514&quot;&gt;Fred Haseney&lt;/a&gt;.

Fred,
Peter Moon (his writer name) used to work in SO #1 Unit and says a lot of inside very important info.
He&#039;s interviewed here, and it truly worth it to listen to Peter, and you can contact him on Facebook, you&#039;ve probably stumbled upon him already for years, he has posted for over a decade.
SO #1 Unit was in the &quot;LRH Personal Office&quot; which was LRH&#039;s Office, a quite big entourage of the most faithful and it included the CMO and included Ken Urquhart, and a whole bunch of people, the old Admin Dictionary gives a lot of their posts.  It included the LRH Accounts lady, Vicki Polimeni/Livingston, she did LRH&#039;s banking, LOL, this LRH Personal Office is what did a lot of LRH&#039;s personal stuff that the IRS considered &quot;inurement&quot; and for which Scientology was not going to get tax exemption with that old setup.
Thus, the LRH Personal Office had to split up, in order to gain tax exemption.   CMO Int became under COS, and LRH&#039;s personal matters, that went into Author Services Int.  LRH Household Unit went into CMO Gold, etc, etc, all splitting of the duties into COS and ASI, and also, the people who worked in &quot;MSH&#039;s Office&quot; they attended to MSH to the end of her life, even though Miscavige and her did not get along.

There is so much to the two &quot;offices&quot; the LRH Office and the MSH Office.

Peter Moon&#039;s excellent interview and get him talking on Outer Banks if you want also.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08LMRRkf3D8

Much worth hearing!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/a-letter-from-ron/#comment-481514">Fred Haseney</a>.</p>
<p>Fred,<br />
Peter Moon (his writer name) used to work in SO #1 Unit and says a lot of inside very important info.<br />
He&#8217;s interviewed here, and it truly worth it to listen to Peter, and you can contact him on Facebook, you&#8217;ve probably stumbled upon him already for years, he has posted for over a decade.<br />
SO #1 Unit was in the &#8220;LRH Personal Office&#8221; which was LRH&#8217;s Office, a quite big entourage of the most faithful and it included the CMO and included Ken Urquhart, and a whole bunch of people, the old Admin Dictionary gives a lot of their posts.  It included the LRH Accounts lady, Vicki Polimeni/Livingston, she did LRH&#8217;s banking, LOL, this LRH Personal Office is what did a lot of LRH&#8217;s personal stuff that the IRS considered &#8220;inurement&#8221; and for which Scientology was not going to get tax exemption with that old setup.<br />
Thus, the LRH Personal Office had to split up, in order to gain tax exemption.   CMO Int became under COS, and LRH&#8217;s personal matters, that went into Author Services Int.  LRH Household Unit went into CMO Gold, etc, etc, all splitting of the duties into COS and ASI, and also, the people who worked in &#8220;MSH&#8217;s Office&#8221; they attended to MSH to the end of her life, even though Miscavige and her did not get along.</p>
<p>There is so much to the two &#8220;offices&#8221; the LRH Office and the MSH Office.</p>
<p>Peter Moon&#8217;s excellent interview and get him talking on Outer Banks if you want also.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08LMRRkf3D8" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08LMRRkf3D8</a></p>
<p>Much worth hearing!</p>
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		By: Fred Haseney		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 May 2022 00:33:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/a-letter-from-ron/#comment-480329&quot;&gt;xTeamXenu75to03chuckbeatty&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you for that, Chuck. I learned a new word today: &quot;followership.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/a-letter-from-ron/#comment-480329">xTeamXenu75to03chuckbeatty</a>.</p>
<p>Thank you for that, Chuck. I learned a new word today: &#8220;followership.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Fred Haseney		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fred Haseney]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 May 2022 00:30:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/a-letter-from-ron/#comment-480326&quot;&gt;xTeamXenu75to03chuckbeatty&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you, Chuck. Having names of those who worked in the SO #1 Unit makes all of this so much more real. I wonder what they did when Hubbard kicked the bucket? How does one add &quot;SO #1 Unit&quot; to a resume?

The deceit in Scientology is unreal and grows by leaps and bounds daily.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/a-letter-from-ron/#comment-480326">xTeamXenu75to03chuckbeatty</a>.</p>
<p>Thank you, Chuck. Having names of those who worked in the SO #1 Unit makes all of this so much more real. I wonder what they did when Hubbard kicked the bucket? How does one add &#8220;SO #1 Unit&#8221; to a resume?</p>
<p>The deceit in Scientology is unreal and grows by leaps and bounds daily.</p>
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		By: Maureen		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2022 16:41:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[My brother worked in the SO#1 Unit back around 1983, at Flag. He was only 16 yrs old, and had little to no Scientology training or auditing. When we joined the SO, our recruiter both promised that we would get help to complete our educations.   When when we arrived in CW, that never happened. My little brother really needed to be getting an education, making friends,  improving his communications skills, etc. but instead, he was put on this super specialized post in the Sea Org, part of the SO# 1 Unit,  and he put in charge of the &quot;Ron&quot; signature stamp. He spent his days stamping Ron&#039;s signature on all the letters that Ron was not actually reading, and doing filing etc.   My brother had been let in on this big secret that Ron was not really reading anyone&#039;s letters, and my brother was sworn to secrecy about it, even from other SO Members.  My brother felt alone and isolated, didn&#039;t really have anything he could talk about to anyone, as he had no personal life outside of his job, and he was basically taught how important it was to LIE to people to accomplish &quot;the greatest good&quot;. This adversely influenced his life greatly.  He does not complain about this publicly and probably never will.  But as his sister, I can tell you, that it was extremely abusive emotionally to him back then for his SO superiors to have taken advantage of him like that, as a teenager. They essentially prevented him from finishing school, growing up and learning the importance of truth and honesty, and how to make and keep good friends to talk to that you don&#039;t have to keep secrets from.  L. Ron Hubbard seemed to think it was perfectly OK to treat children like this, to make them Sea Org Members, and give them &quot;confidential&quot; work to do when they should be out making friends, doing things that they can openly talk to others about, so that they can improve their communication skills. Instead my brother was taught how very very important it was to lie to people.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My brother worked in the SO#1 Unit back around 1983, at Flag. He was only 16 yrs old, and had little to no Scientology training or auditing. When we joined the SO, our recruiter both promised that we would get help to complete our educations.   When when we arrived in CW, that never happened. My little brother really needed to be getting an education, making friends,  improving his communications skills, etc. but instead, he was put on this super specialized post in the Sea Org, part of the SO# 1 Unit,  and he put in charge of the &#8220;Ron&#8221; signature stamp. He spent his days stamping Ron&#8217;s signature on all the letters that Ron was not actually reading, and doing filing etc.   My brother had been let in on this big secret that Ron was not really reading anyone&#8217;s letters, and my brother was sworn to secrecy about it, even from other SO Members.  My brother felt alone and isolated, didn&#8217;t really have anything he could talk about to anyone, as he had no personal life outside of his job, and he was basically taught how important it was to LIE to people to accomplish &#8220;the greatest good&#8221;. This adversely influenced his life greatly.  He does not complain about this publicly and probably never will.  But as his sister, I can tell you, that it was extremely abusive emotionally to him back then for his SO superiors to have taken advantage of him like that, as a teenager. They essentially prevented him from finishing school, growing up and learning the importance of truth and honesty, and how to make and keep good friends to talk to that you don&#8217;t have to keep secrets from.  L. Ron Hubbard seemed to think it was perfectly OK to treat children like this, to make them Sea Org Members, and give them &#8220;confidential&#8221; work to do when they should be out making friends, doing things that they can openly talk to others about, so that they can improve their communication skills. Instead my brother was taught how very very important it was to lie to people.</p>
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		By: Jere Lull		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 May 2022 18:41:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/a-letter-from-ron/#comment-480240&quot;&gt;Fred G. Haseney&lt;/a&gt;.

Some of us HAVE &quot;gotten wise&quot;, and are gone for good.
&#039;Tweern&#039;t much good IN scientology, so experiencing &quot;good&quot; once we disconnected from that suppression was a REVELATION.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/a-letter-from-ron/#comment-480240">Fred G. Haseney</a>.</p>
<p>Some of us HAVE &#8220;gotten wise&#8221;, and are gone for good.<br />
&#8216;Tweern&#8217;t much good IN scientology, so experiencing &#8220;good&#8221; once we disconnected from that suppression was a REVELATION.</p>
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		By: Anonymous		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 08 May 2022 21:59:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I hope I never have a friend like Ron.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope I never have a friend like Ron.</p>
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		By: xTeamXenu75to03chuckbeatty		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/a-letter-from-ron/#comment-480338</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 08 May 2022 16:27:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/a-letter-from-ron/#comment-480171&quot;&gt;Louise Shekter&lt;/a&gt;.

Louise, 

Remember Hank Billings and Lynn Visk?   

Wasn&#039;t Hank the premiere SO #1 letter answerer for LRH for all time, he is in my opinion.]]></description>
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<p>Louise, </p>
<p>Remember Hank Billings and Lynn Visk?   </p>
<p>Wasn&#8217;t Hank the premiere SO #1 letter answerer for LRH for all time, he is in my opinion.</p>
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		By: xTeamXenu75to03chuckbeatty		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 08 May 2022 16:22:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/a-letter-from-ron/#comment-480183&quot;&gt;ILove2Lurk&lt;/a&gt;.

Important anecdote.

Totally believable.

Hubbard was bragging and false promising of the &quot;upper&quot; levels to still come, to the bitter end.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISRxhCEUZfo&#038;list=PL4eWNQNAVRwQDwYGtCIXiw-iDl8ItSrMv&#038;index=5]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/a-letter-from-ron/#comment-480183">ILove2Lurk</a>.</p>
<p>Important anecdote.</p>
<p>Totally believable.</p>
<p>Hubbard was bragging and false promising of the &#8220;upper&#8221; levels to still come, to the bitter end.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISRxhCEUZfo&#038;list=PL4eWNQNAVRwQDwYGtCIXiw-iDl8ItSrMv&#038;index=5" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISRxhCEUZfo&#038;list=PL4eWNQNAVRwQDwYGtCIXiw-iDl8ItSrMv&#038;index=5</a></p>
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		By: xTeamXenu75to03chuckbeatty		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 08 May 2022 15:35:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mike / Louise,

QUESTION:

In your years on Apollo, was it the case (this is my understanding) that AVC/AVU (which was in the LRH Personal Office, just like the SO #1 Unit personnel were also a sub unit in the LRH Personnel Office) but that AVC/AVU would sidecheck the outgoing  LRH letters answers in &quot;some cases?&quot;

Or did AVC/AVU not screen the  outgoing LRH SO #1 Unit letter answers in any way?

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Mike, and Louise too, 

Another fine point, but my understanding, was the the &quot;hat&quot; of the SO #1 Unit basically had to dissolve, and LRH accepted the solution which was transfer much of the &quot;hat&quot; to ED Int&#039;s office, and the revised ED Int issue, even includes some mention of this &quot;line to ED Int&quot; and I think a seperate &quot;line&quot; was established.

I do wish we knew what exactly LRH approved, but he didn&#039;t himself approve but just left it go, another one of the final major problems I never saw (and on the admin research project I was on in 1983, I don&#039;t recall reading a specificy LRH advice on how to let the SO #1 Unit come to a gradual end, which it just had to do).

The almost one year time slot when LRH was literally &quot;off the lines&quot; and had no sent down any traffic, which was that stretch 1980 to 1981, caused a lot of unresolved problems.

SO #1 Unit&#039;s continued existence was a rather big problem.

Lynn Visk, my understanding, is who raised the ruckus, and she and Rena I think are the ones pushing for adding their initials to the LRH signature line, to show which SO #1 Unit person answered which letter, LOL.

I wish Rena or Lynn would be dug up to answer their travails, LOL.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike / Louise,</p>
<p>QUESTION:</p>
<p>In your years on Apollo, was it the case (this is my understanding) that AVC/AVU (which was in the LRH Personal Office, just like the SO #1 Unit personnel were also a sub unit in the LRH Personnel Office) but that AVC/AVU would sidecheck the outgoing  LRH letters answers in &#8220;some cases?&#8221;</p>
<p>Or did AVC/AVU not screen the  outgoing LRH SO #1 Unit letter answers in any way?</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>Mike, and Louise too, </p>
<p>Another fine point, but my understanding, was the the &#8220;hat&#8221; of the SO #1 Unit basically had to dissolve, and LRH accepted the solution which was transfer much of the &#8220;hat&#8221; to ED Int&#8217;s office, and the revised ED Int issue, even includes some mention of this &#8220;line to ED Int&#8221; and I think a seperate &#8220;line&#8221; was established.</p>
<p>I do wish we knew what exactly LRH approved, but he didn&#8217;t himself approve but just left it go, another one of the final major problems I never saw (and on the admin research project I was on in 1983, I don&#8217;t recall reading a specificy LRH advice on how to let the SO #1 Unit come to a gradual end, which it just had to do).</p>
<p>The almost one year time slot when LRH was literally &#8220;off the lines&#8221; and had no sent down any traffic, which was that stretch 1980 to 1981, caused a lot of unresolved problems.</p>
<p>SO #1 Unit&#8217;s continued existence was a rather big problem.</p>
<p>Lynn Visk, my understanding, is who raised the ruckus, and she and Rena I think are the ones pushing for adding their initials to the LRH signature line, to show which SO #1 Unit person answered which letter, LOL.</p>
<p>I wish Rena or Lynn would be dug up to answer their travails, LOL.</p>
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