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		By: PSXT2000		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/a-scientology-price-list/#comment-545908</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Oct 2023 17:57:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/a-scientology-price-list/#comment-545797&quot;&gt;Ed Ravn&lt;/a&gt;.

Ed, it is unfair to characterize it in the manner you have. You offer nothing but a generalization that &quot;it is simply  B.S.&quot; How about a couple specific real life (your life) examples of the BS you encountered to back up your remarks? Or, if you don&#039;t have any, then I&#039;ll assume you are no more than a run-of-the-mill troll spouting the stuff you do having been given your material from others, and I won&#039;t engage further. 

You didn&#039;t have the same experience as I did obviously since you are rejecting every bit of it. I&#039;m rejecting much of it and for good reason. But I wish to be honest and acknowledge the good and the bad. Your choice of course to spew your remarks. I found that there will always be some people unwilling or unable to do what is necessary to get a gain. Their choice in a free society.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/a-scientology-price-list/#comment-545797">Ed Ravn</a>.</p>
<p>Ed, it is unfair to characterize it in the manner you have. You offer nothing but a generalization that &#8220;it is simply  B.S.&#8221; How about a couple specific real life (your life) examples of the BS you encountered to back up your remarks? Or, if you don&#8217;t have any, then I&#8217;ll assume you are no more than a run-of-the-mill troll spouting the stuff you do having been given your material from others, and I won&#8217;t engage further. </p>
<p>You didn&#8217;t have the same experience as I did obviously since you are rejecting every bit of it. I&#8217;m rejecting much of it and for good reason. But I wish to be honest and acknowledge the good and the bad. Your choice of course to spew your remarks. I found that there will always be some people unwilling or unable to do what is necessary to get a gain. Their choice in a free society.</p>
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		By: Ed Ravn		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Oct 2023 23:54:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/a-scientology-price-list/#comment-496590&quot;&gt;PSXT 2000&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;is that the technology of auditing and some of the administrative ideas are good and workable&quot;

And that is simply B.S. And not the &quot;Bachelor of Science&quot; type. Although, even if you now like to believe that, what-ever you learned from this &quot;church&quot; is not worth even the time. Not alone the money.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/a-scientology-price-list/#comment-496590">PSXT 2000</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;is that the technology of auditing and some of the administrative ideas are good and workable&#8221;</p>
<p>And that is simply B.S. And not the &#8220;Bachelor of Science&#8221; type. Although, even if you now like to believe that, what-ever you learned from this &#8220;church&#8221; is not worth even the time. Not alone the money.</p>
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		By: PSXT 2000		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Sep 2022 17:02:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I was pursuing this from around 1985 to around 2002 when I elected to no longer spend any money on services and recover my finances. The very sad and unfortunate thing about this in my opinion is that the technology of auditing and some of the administrative ideas are good and workable but that all is lost to the world when so few can actually achieve real results compared to the messages of worldwide dissemination at the gala events. Don&#039;t see that growth at all suggesting they are not being honest to the public. I have had numerous gains from the counselling from 1950 issue Book1 Dianetics to New Era Dianetics. That is my experience. It does work, but will likely bankrupt you before you can become a super earner to pay for more. I&#039;ve learned a lot of things, such as study technology which if used everywhere as it is not a religious thing could go a long way to solve our educational crisis. That is not available typically. Too bad. The technology is defensible. What isn&#039;t are numerous policies that make pursuing Scientology nearly impossible. The horrible policies that separate family and turn church staff into harassers and high pressure sales persons. The PR is worthless as we can see how many people just troll even this blog. The people I have met and known in the departments that deliver the auditing are the very best in my opinion. Ethical, honest, willing to work to improve, learn more and above all help others. All the best qualities of humans are on display in the auditing centers. What is not defensible is the way the church leadership has taken over and turned it into a Real Estate Acquisition machine at the expense of everyone and benefit of nearly none. The way Sea Org staff and all staff are treated is not fair. My local org fund raised and bought a 3 story building back around 2000 and today, in 2022 it sill sits empty as they continue to try and squeeze the millions needed to renovate. Ridiculous. No help from the mother church is coming. There is something of value here but it is lost buried under the nonsense and outright oppressive policies and pricing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was pursuing this from around 1985 to around 2002 when I elected to no longer spend any money on services and recover my finances. The very sad and unfortunate thing about this in my opinion is that the technology of auditing and some of the administrative ideas are good and workable but that all is lost to the world when so few can actually achieve real results compared to the messages of worldwide dissemination at the gala events. Don&#8217;t see that growth at all suggesting they are not being honest to the public. I have had numerous gains from the counselling from 1950 issue Book1 Dianetics to New Era Dianetics. That is my experience. It does work, but will likely bankrupt you before you can become a super earner to pay for more. I&#8217;ve learned a lot of things, such as study technology which if used everywhere as it is not a religious thing could go a long way to solve our educational crisis. That is not available typically. Too bad. The technology is defensible. What isn&#8217;t are numerous policies that make pursuing Scientology nearly impossible. The horrible policies that separate family and turn church staff into harassers and high pressure sales persons. The PR is worthless as we can see how many people just troll even this blog. The people I have met and known in the departments that deliver the auditing are the very best in my opinion. Ethical, honest, willing to work to improve, learn more and above all help others. All the best qualities of humans are on display in the auditing centers. What is not defensible is the way the church leadership has taken over and turned it into a Real Estate Acquisition machine at the expense of everyone and benefit of nearly none. The way Sea Org staff and all staff are treated is not fair. My local org fund raised and bought a 3 story building back around 2000 and today, in 2022 it sill sits empty as they continue to try and squeeze the millions needed to renovate. Ridiculous. No help from the mother church is coming. There is something of value here but it is lost buried under the nonsense and outright oppressive policies and pricing.</p>
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		By: Hells		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/a-scientology-price-list/#comment-492292</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Aug 2022 13:44:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/a-scientology-price-list/#comment-214630&quot;&gt;Thomas&lt;/a&gt;.

It’s really great! Especially the bit where children get abused. Love that. And the bit where you get paid $50 per week on a good week. 
Sign me up! and my children. 
I feel enlightened just thinking about it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/a-scientology-price-list/#comment-214630">Thomas</a>.</p>
<p>It’s really great! Especially the bit where children get abused. Love that. And the bit where you get paid $50 per week on a good week.<br />
Sign me up! and my children.<br />
I feel enlightened just thinking about it.</p>
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		By: Peter		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Oct 2021 16:23:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Is it safe to assume a lot of the people who get involved in this, or at least the higher levels are usually pretty wealthy? Even if I was somehow convinced this was all a good idea there&#039;s no way I could ever afford any of it. Hell, i wouldn&#039;t spend these amounts of money on something sensible let alone this bollocks.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it safe to assume a lot of the people who get involved in this, or at least the higher levels are usually pretty wealthy? Even if I was somehow convinced this was all a good idea there&#8217;s no way I could ever afford any of it. Hell, i wouldn&#8217;t spend these amounts of money on something sensible let alone this bollocks.</p>
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		By: Suz		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Suz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Oct 2021 01:16:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/a-scientology-price-list/#comment-379772&quot;&gt;BB&lt;/a&gt;.

Can&#039;t they reissue the copyrights?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/a-scientology-price-list/#comment-379772">BB</a>.</p>
<p>Can&#8217;t they reissue the copyrights?</p>
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		By: Ed Ravn		</title>
		<link>https://www.mikerindersblog.org/a-scientology-price-list/#comment-405247</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2021 22:49:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/a-scientology-price-list/#comment-314177&quot;&gt;Shar&lt;/a&gt;.

Exactly correct. They have a need to massage the information about their &quot;religion&quot;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/a-scientology-price-list/#comment-314177">Shar</a>.</p>
<p>Exactly correct. They have a need to massage the information about their &#8220;religion&#8221;.</p>
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		By: Ed Ravn		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ed Ravn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2021 22:47:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/a-scientology-price-list/#comment-387655&quot;&gt;JRL&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;Visited over several weeks and got hooked up to the e-meter probably a dozen times for free. We found a few of my deepest darkest secrets (engrams-subconcious scatomas) and I was very very grateful. &quot;

That segment already told me that this poor chap lying through his teeth.

What a promo though.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/a-scientology-price-list/#comment-387655">JRL</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;Visited over several weeks and got hooked up to the e-meter probably a dozen times for free. We found a few of my deepest darkest secrets (engrams-subconcious scatomas) and I was very very grateful. &#8221;</p>
<p>That segment already told me that this poor chap lying through his teeth.</p>
<p>What a promo though.</p>
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		By: Skyler23		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Skyler23]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 May 2021 15:57:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.mikerindersblog.org/a-scientology-price-list/#comment-221257&quot;&gt;Mark Edwards&lt;/a&gt;.

The most accurate description of what this thing really is was stated by Yashar Ali. He is generally recognized as one of the Internet&#039;s leading experts. He said:

&lt;b&gt;&quot;It is a criminal organization set up as a for-profit business masquerading as a religion.&quot;&lt;/b&gt;

I would like to add:

The reason he calls it a &quot;criminal&quot; organization may be because it uses mind control techniques and extremely high sales pressure techniques that often results in members &quot;donating&quot; all their wealth including all their bank accounts, all real property, all retirement plans, all of their childrens&#039; college funds, etc. until people are driven into bankruptcy. Any attempt that a member makes to complain about this treatment results in the so-called &quot;disconnection&quot; from all of their family members. Disconnection is almost identical to &quot;shunning&quot;.  In addition, this cult has become expert in convincing members to increase all of their credit card limits to the maximum and then borrowing every penny they can from the credit card companies until they are all maxxed out. Since they cannot possibly pay what they owe, most are forced into bankruptcy. A most terrible life.

Members are treated in a terrible, almost medieval fashion and the punishments for any transgressions are often inhuman and would be clearly criminal except for the fact that by calling this scam a &quot;religion&quot;, they are able to inflict all manner of brutal punisments on their members which would be clearly considered criminal if they could not use the First Ammendment to claim these punishments are not criminal because they fall under the heading of religious exceptions.

This cult has spent more than 50 years refining their techniques to avoid the criminal law and they are now one of the strongest scams this world has ever known. Their current net worth is estimated to be more than $3 billion dollars. That is mostly due to the fact they were able to secure a religious tax exemption which means they never pay any tax for any reason.

Many people have been calling for the end to this Tax Exemption Status. But this cult spends as much money as it takes on lawyers to fight and intimidate anyone who complains about their treatment or about their tax exempt status.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.mikerindersblog.org/a-scientology-price-list/#comment-221257">Mark Edwards</a>.</p>
<p>The most accurate description of what this thing really is was stated by Yashar Ali. He is generally recognized as one of the Internet&#8217;s leading experts. He said:</p>
<p><b>&#8220;It is a criminal organization set up as a for-profit business masquerading as a religion.&#8221;</b></p>
<p>I would like to add:</p>
<p>The reason he calls it a &#8220;criminal&#8221; organization may be because it uses mind control techniques and extremely high sales pressure techniques that often results in members &#8220;donating&#8221; all their wealth including all their bank accounts, all real property, all retirement plans, all of their childrens&#8217; college funds, etc. until people are driven into bankruptcy. Any attempt that a member makes to complain about this treatment results in the so-called &#8220;disconnection&#8221; from all of their family members. Disconnection is almost identical to &#8220;shunning&#8221;.  In addition, this cult has become expert in convincing members to increase all of their credit card limits to the maximum and then borrowing every penny they can from the credit card companies until they are all maxxed out. Since they cannot possibly pay what they owe, most are forced into bankruptcy. A most terrible life.</p>
<p>Members are treated in a terrible, almost medieval fashion and the punishments for any transgressions are often inhuman and would be clearly criminal except for the fact that by calling this scam a &#8220;religion&#8221;, they are able to inflict all manner of brutal punisments on their members which would be clearly considered criminal if they could not use the First Ammendment to claim these punishments are not criminal because they fall under the heading of religious exceptions.</p>
<p>This cult has spent more than 50 years refining their techniques to avoid the criminal law and they are now one of the strongest scams this world has ever known. Their current net worth is estimated to be more than $3 billion dollars. That is mostly due to the fact they were able to secure a religious tax exemption which means they never pay any tax for any reason.</p>
<p>Many people have been calling for the end to this Tax Exemption Status. But this cult spends as much money as it takes on lawyers to fight and intimidate anyone who complains about their treatment or about their tax exempt status.</p>
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		By: Episode 39: Former A&#038;E Executive Devon Graham Hammonds		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 May 2021 11:46:38 +0000</pubDate>
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